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Jeb Bush Calls Tone of Immigration Debate `Hurtful' (Official "Bush Picks At Toe Jam" th
LA Times ^ | 4/5/06 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 04/05/2006 5:50:41 AM PDT by zook

WASHINGTON — Accusing politicians of "pounding their chests" on immigration for short-term political gain, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the tone of the debate had been "hurtful" to him and his Mexican-born wife, Columba.

Bush, the younger brother of President Bush, reserved some of his sharpest criticism for conservatives in his own Republican Party, calling it "just plain wrong" to charge illegal immigrants with a felony, as a provision passed by the Republican-led House would do. He also opposed "penalizing the children of illegal immigrants" by denying them U.S. citizenship, an idea backed by some conservatives but not included in the legislation.

"My wife came here legally, but it hurts her just as it hurts me when people give the perception that all immigrants are bad," the Florida governor wrote in an e-mail exchange with The Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aduck; aliens; awitch; border; constamatootionparty; florida; immigrantdebate; immigration; jebbush; kickthedog; latimes; madeofwood; mexicanwife; newsignups; xenophobia
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To: dirtboy

Perhaps "Bushbot" wouldn't be used if the "other side" stopped telling people that they "never voted Republican" and stopped calling people names for deciding to vote on principle instead of voting for the least repugnant choice.

I have voted GOP since the first election in which I was allowed to vote. I will now vote for the most conservative choice available. If there IS no conservative choice, I won't fill that portion of the ballot.

The number of people on this forum who don't recognize or won't admit to a HUGE backlash amongst formerly loyal GOP voters is astounding.


341 posted on 04/05/2006 10:02:13 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: B4Ranch

He doesn't give a cr*p about his oath of office. If he did, he would have followed his vow to uphold the constitution of the state of Florida in the case of Terri Schiavo.

Article one, section two.

This is just more of the same.


342 posted on 04/05/2006 10:02:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: Bikers4Bush

LOL - raising ALL levels of legal immigration a couple hundred thousand is certainly NOT absorb[ing] every human being on this planet - last I checked, that was in the billions. Again, let me know if anyone has proposed doing that.


343 posted on 04/05/2006 10:04:40 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks for the link. I (obviously) do not think it is "trolling" to ask honest questions.


344 posted on 04/05/2006 10:05:14 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
They ARE all "immigrants" - see dictionary.

Once again, you are using a few responses you specifically trolled to get as an attempt to impunge the motives of the larger population of those opposed to illegal immigration. That is a despicable tactic, quite frankly - something I would expect from a Democrat, not an alleged conservative.

345 posted on 04/05/2006 10:05:58 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: clawrence3

You never qualified it, you merely said that you were for raising ALL levels of immmigration and then questioned why there would be a quota at all.

The two together imply that you advocate letting any and all come regardless.


346 posted on 04/05/2006 10:07:15 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: jpsb

yes, but what are we to do about it?


347 posted on 04/05/2006 10:08:42 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Islam and the mainstream media worship the same master...)
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To: clawrence3
Thanks for the link. I (obviously) do not think it is "trolling" to ask honest questions.

It's not, as we've discussed before. Which doesn't change the fact that you are a troll.

348 posted on 04/05/2006 10:08:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: dirtboy; bwteim

Not at all - bwteim claims specifically that Jeb Bush is "unfortunately clouding the discussion by apparently grouping illegals with legal immigrants in his email to the LA Times and labeling them all as immigrants."

I don't think it is "unfortunate" - it is ACCURATE - and last I checked, it is not a slur to simply point out the definition of "immigration" : )


349 posted on 04/05/2006 10:10:51 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: MineralMan

My God, you can't comprehend! For the third time, READ.

Dictionary definition: TRAITOR....... "One who betrays a cause"!!!

If you need to have an English teacher explain how commas and the word "or" relates to that full definition, ("One who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust, especially one who commits treason"), try going to your local grade school and asking for help. You are embarrassing yourself.

Some of you people seem to have one goal--be the #1 denialist of facts on FR.


350 posted on 04/05/2006 10:11:06 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: Bikers4Bush

For the record, then, I am not for raising the immigration levels to BILLIONS per year ; )


351 posted on 04/05/2006 10:11:48 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: MineralMan
Your personal boundary of what you will allow to be said about Bush has been exceeded because you are still clinging to some vain hope that the GOP is still worthy of your vote.

Any average citizen who opened up a gate and allowed invaders to pour into our country would most certainly and appropriately be labeled a traitor...Bush has opened the gate and allowed millions to pour in, and you don't think he is a traitor?
352 posted on 04/05/2006 10:12:04 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Islam and the mainstream media worship the same master...)
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To: clawrence3
I am fine with raising ALL levels of legal immigration.

I'm fine with setting Hispanic legal immigration to zero for 10 years and letting other people in from around the world. And I would put a fence on the Mexico border. Hispanics behave as they're the only poor people in the world who deserve to immigrate to the United States

353 posted on 04/05/2006 10:12:21 AM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: clawrence3
For the record, then, I am not for raising the immigration levels to BILLIONS per year ; )

Wow. What a concession.

354 posted on 04/05/2006 10:13:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; MineralMan

That's fine with me as long as you admit there's no evidence of "treason" under the U.S. Constitution.


355 posted on 04/05/2006 10:13:37 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
I don't think it is "unfortunate" - it is ACCURATE

No, it is not. You had a handful of responses on your trolling vanity post, and from that you extrapolate the actual intent of millions of conservatives?

Fooey.

356 posted on 04/05/2006 10:14:08 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: clawrence3

Oh goodness. Is it really worth so much of your time? Don't you have some better points to hammer?
susie


357 posted on 04/05/2006 10:14:13 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: clawrence3

Fair enough, thanks for the clarification.

Just out of blatant curiosity do you think we should favor one country over another with respect to how many folks we let in?

In my opinion it's discriminatory to not set even numbers across all countries we're willing to take immigrants from.

That being said I think there are also countries we should take no immigrants whatsoever from.


358 posted on 04/05/2006 10:14:22 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: dennisw

We shall see which one gets passed and signed into law then : )


359 posted on 04/05/2006 10:15:19 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: EternalVigilance; Bikers4Bush

Talk to Bikers4Bush then - if either of you find someone proposing that, I'm sure you will let me know.


360 posted on 04/05/2006 10:16:11 AM PDT by clawrence3
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