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To: wintertime

They are huge defenders of government schools, and more significantly, of federal control of education as opposed to state and local control.

I really think the vast majority of parents would be satisfied on the evolution issue if the ACLU and the Politically Correct science community simply practiced what they preach regarding science's stance on religion. They repeat over and over that science is neutral on religion, and can say nothing one way or the other about God's existence.

Yet, what would happen if a few minutes were set aside at the start of every semester to discuss whether a deity created the universe, its laws, and life or whether those things just happen to exist and work the way they do by happenstance? We'd be told that such a discussion would be "unscientific", even though discussions of all kinds of wildly speculative things (alien visitations, parallel universes, etc.) would be considered okay.

Various politically active science organizations would declare the discussion to be a "war against science", they'd check the link list on their websites, phone the ACLU and People for the American Way, and call for a federal judge to ban the discussion.

To them, religious neutrality means operating on the assumption that God doesn't exist. To tell the kiddies that science is ignorant on this issue, and that God may exist or may not, is the same as telling them God exists in their minds.

I think most parents don't want any particular ID theory taught. They just want an acknowledgement that it isn't proven or even provable that we are the descendants of micro-organisms, and that science is as ignorant about the existence of God as Bill Clinton is about morality. But the hardcore evos won't allow such acknowledgements to be given in a public school science class.

In a sense, it doesn't make that much difference any more. More and more parents seem to be opting out of the public schools, and the internet provides ways around public school dogma on evolution. Freer flow of ideas are doing to evolution what talk radio & the internet have done to the liberal media monopoly.


515 posted on 04/20/2006 7:44:13 AM PDT by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: puroresu
Yet, what would happen if a few minutes were set aside at the start of every semester to discuss whether a deity created the universe, its laws, and life or whether those things just happen to exist and work the way they do by happenstance?

Why should it be one deity? Why are you favoring monotheism over polytheism on the one hand, and atheism on the other?

516 posted on 04/20/2006 7:53:03 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: puroresu
what would happen if a few minutes were set aside at the start of every semester to discuss whether a deity created the universe, its laws, and life

Which diety, though? Equal time for all the dieties? There aren't enough semesters. Or just the Abrahamic concepts of God--or G*d, if you are orthodox? These are all issues for philosophy, or comparative religion classes, not the matter of "a few minutes".

Or do you literally mean "a few minutes"? Maybe just use the school's public address system:

"Now here this, students of Springfield High. The Principal and faculty would like to remind you that, although the matter is one outside the scope of your science classes, there is a possibility that our cosmos may have been created and/or maintained by one or more dieties of your choice."

What purpose would be served by these "few minutes"? And I thought it was part of your constitution that the state stays out of matters of religion, leaving that sphere (rightly, in my view) entirely to the conscience of each individual citizan.

523 posted on 04/20/2006 8:17:21 AM PDT by ToryHeartland
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To: puroresu
In a sense, it doesn't make that much difference any more. More and more parents seem to be opting out of the public schools, and the internet provides ways around public school dogma on evolution.

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Thank goodness!

Hopefully, enough parents will remove their children from government schools that they will collapse.

Government schools need two things: Money and students. Hopefully rational parents will starve them of both.
612 posted on 04/20/2006 9:05:57 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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