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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; Heartlander; Doctor Stochastic; PatrickHenry; Right Wing Professor; ...
...those that can conceive of God as a reality seem to have little problem with the infinity problem..

Well said, hosepipe! I've noticed that, too!

Yet drilling down a bit, I would suggest that "infinity" and "eternity" are not the same things. That is, they are not synonyms. One is a mathematical construct eminently useful in the prosecution of scientific problems. The other deals with the "where we live" (so to speak): consciousness - experience - language.

God is utterly, absolutely "beyond" both spacetime and all categories of human thought. The Greek nous (human reason, mind -- if the word had a capital "N," it would denote divine reason, mind) cannot penetrate the mystery of God. But we can know Him in Spirit. This is our faith, in search of its reason. Indeed, He invites us to take up this search, this quest.

Thank you for your excellent observations, dear hosepipe!

793 posted on 05/02/2006 3:59:26 PM PDT by betty boop (The world of Appearance is Reality’s cloak -- "Nature loves to hide.")
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To: betty boop

(God is utterly, absolutely "beyond" both spacetime and all categories of human thought. The Greek nous (human reason, mind -- if the word had a capital "N," it would denote divine reason, mind) cannot penetrate the mystery of God. But we can know Him in Spirit. This is our faith, in search of its reason. Indeed, He invites us to take up this search, this quest.)


Well said!


1,001 posted on 05/02/2006 9:50:01 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ Yet drilling down a bit, I would suggest that "infinity" and "eternity" are not the same things. That is, they are not synonyms. One is a mathematical construct eminently useful in the prosecution of scientific problems. The other deals with the "where we live" (so to speak): consciousness - experience - language. ]

Excellent, we're resonating.. I thought of eternity.. For some reason I think I can concieve of eternity.. but cannot even concieve of infinity.. Eternity does not seem to be an untouchable thing to me.. Where time happens but its not as important as timing.. Infinity I can't get my mind around.. probably because I'm earth bound in that sense.. To me time is childs play, infinity is larger than my mind can hold..

True... eternity and infinity are not the same things.. not the same things at all.. Its like, to me, eternity is real and/but infinity is a mental construct, like spiritual rhetoric.. Could be a lack in me.. If thats true, then it is.. Eternity seems spiritual to me(real), infinity seems thingly like a dream thing..

1,014 posted on 05/02/2006 11:25:58 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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