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To: Polarik

I wanted to read your evaluation of the posted document. Now that I have seen it, I have to say, I was disappointed and not impressed. There is very little substance to your post.

The “shuck & jive” about the numbers and especially the E. F. Lavender reference is juvenile. Either the numbers lead to a recorded document or they don’t, either E. F. Lavender is a real person in this position or he is not. I see nothing to prove or discount this but it should be revealed in court, if it gets I far.

I suspect there are just as many, or more, in the states that can produce a quality forgery (there is big money in fake historical documents). Some documents, as well as things such as paintings have fooled experts but I doubt this is of that level (if it is fake) since all the pertinent information should be easily verified.

The document does not purport to be a Governmental birth registry from 1961, it is presented as a February 1964 document that is a true copy of the birth registry. The only valid point here is when the name “REPUBLIC of Kenya was used. Do you have any information on that (other than a generic statement about when it became the Republic of Kenya), this too should be easy to verity.

I also haven’t found anything to verify your assertion that the hospital was called “Coast PROVINCIAL General Hospital”. What I have found indicated that it was know as Mombasa Hospital (at the time of Obama’s birth), was changed to Katherine Bibby Hospital and then changed back to Mombasa Hospital. It could have been referred to differently by locals, do you know this to be the case.

As for the Israeli Intelligence reference, that seems to be another generic statement. Is there a specific reference to this hospital (perhaps a little sleuthing would have narrowed it down) and did they check beyond hospital records.... such as district records..

I would like someone with document experience (thought it was going to be you) to post an analysis, if not I will post my own (for what it’s worth) later.


4,934 posted on 08/03/2009 4:39:36 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: Peter Horry

You have mistaken the intent of Polarik’s post. He is not endorsing these views. I beleive that he is merely assmebling the observations of others. He has told me that he cannot form ANY opinion on the authenticity of the document without another like it, of known provenance, that can be used for valid comparison.


4,943 posted on 08/03/2009 4:59:43 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Peter Horry
did they check beyond hospital records.... such as district records..

In the states, a record of a birth would be recorded at the hospital, the county courthouse, and at the state health department. I wonder if Kenya had something local such as the equivalent to a courthouse or as you say a district.

5,125 posted on 08/03/2009 8:04:47 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Peter Horry

I like Ron but he sounded like he was in a big hurry in that post and was just regurgitating skeptical remarks from others. I would like him to have a close look at the graphics but it’s his time, not mine.

I agree that the “E.F. Lavender” business was puerile. My name is Johnson...people have fun with it for various reasons. That proves zilch. FReepers have already located an Eric Lavender. The document number makes perfect sense if the record is in a “Book 44” under the “O’s.”


5,155 posted on 08/03/2009 8:29:49 AM PDT by Scanian
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