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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

Not applying veracity of the thesis, but it’s one that’s a possibility.

Regarding those vital records, many of us have commented that the simple fact may just be that what appears on his birth certificate is rather trivial, but could be in COMPLETE discordance with his scripted story, especially in his autobiographies, therefore being the *embarrassment* of LIES about his authentic past.

This is Larry Johnson’s agreement on that point:

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“Let me be clear. Barack Obama meets the Constitutional requirements to be President. He was a young boy when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

As a youngster he had no say in the amendment to his original birth certificate.

He also was introduced to Islam through his step-father. But that relationship ended when Barry Obama Soetoro returned to Hawaii to live with his grandparents.

He never renounced his U.S. citizenship.

The refusal of Barack Obama and his political team to forthrightly address these issues has kept the controversy alive.

The following video by video blogger syc1959 illustrates how a birth certificate is legally “updated” to reflect an adoption.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.noquarterusa.net%2Fblog%2F2009%2F07%2F27%2F2nd-posting-the-obama-birth-certificate-controversy%2F&feature=player_embedded

Barack Obama is now caught in the lie. If he comes clean with the original copy of the birth certificate he will be damaged politically because it will be clear he was not forthcoming or transparent about his childhood.

People will realize the story he has told is more myth than fact. This in turn will fuel a new meme, namely, that Barack Obama cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

Similarly the rightwing will be damaged if it persists with the nonsense that Barack was born in Kenya.

I know many believe this but it is not true. The real reason Barack Obama is evasive about his original birth certificate is that he wants people to forget he once was an Indonesian muslim boy named Barry Soetoro.

It is that simple.”

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/27/2nd-posting-the-obama-birth-certificate-controversy/


5,707 posted on 08/03/2009 2:59:07 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Ask Larry where the Whitey Tapes are.


5,710 posted on 08/03/2009 3:00:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: STARWISE
He never renounced his U.S. citizenship.

Larry makes a lot of assumptions.

I wonder if Obama owns land back in Kenya that he may have inherited if he was born there, under Islamic Law, when part of the "Coastal Province" was called the "Republic of Kenya" in 1963.

I also wonder if there's a birth announcement in the Mombasa Times circa Aug. 4, 1964.

Gotta learn the facts before you can make educated guesses, Larry...

5,720 posted on 08/03/2009 3:08:33 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: STARWISE
I know many believe this but it is not true. The real reason Barack Obama is evasive about his original birth certificate is that he wants people to forget he once was an Indonesian muslim boy named Barry Soetoro.

That's all well known now, except maybe the Barry Soetoro part, which is trivial. It's no reason to keep the BC "private".

No there's something else. But I sure can't fathom what it might be if it's not something that makes him ineligible.

It could be as simple as the fact that the long form states exactly who is father was, along with his father's birthplace. Once released, that becomes "official", and could lead to an ineligibility, based on not having two US citizen parents. Could be he's keeping that fact "unofficial", so that it can't be used to attack him "officially".

Sort of like Chester Arthur keep his father's lack of US Citizenship at the time of his birth secret, going to far as to burn many of his papers. Of course Arthur's father did become a citizen, and had been what we would call today a legal permanent resident alien. Unlike BHO Sr, who was merely a visitor in the US on a student visa.

5,747 posted on 08/03/2009 3:39:02 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: STARWISE

Nope. Barack Obama is still a practising Muslim.

His verbal slips - “...my Muslim faith... - and actions - his book ‘Audacity of Hope’ is titled in Indonesian, ‘Jihad: From Jakarta To The White House’ - hardly the book title of a Christian - and then there is that bow to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

During the 80s all his college roommates were Muslim. And then there is the puzzling absence of college admission forms. There is no evidence he returned to the U.S. in September 1981 to attend Columbia.

The reason I bring this last part up is because no one who was taking the same classes he should have been taking then remembers him. But that would certainly be the case if he started at Columbia in January, 1982, rather than September 1981. So why is this important? The Hajj at Mecca occurred in October of 1981. He was in Pakistan visiting with people who were officials in the Pakistani government. So close to Arabia - well, why not go on pilgrimage!

I doubt he will ever admit it, but I think he is a devout Muslim and hiding it. He sure dislikes Israel.


5,766 posted on 08/03/2009 3:57:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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