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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Tennessee Nana

It actually says 7s 6d.

7 shillings 6 pence.

Don’t know how much a shilling is worth, but it definitely cost more that 50 cents.


5,701 posted on 08/03/2009 2:54:42 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: razbinn

allegedly east africa-kenya did not use pence but cents

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_the_East_African_shilling


5,702 posted on 08/03/2009 2:54:57 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: pikkel

Gosh. Well, I’ll just have to tell a certain lawyer, who is a Constitutional expert, that this person in a chat room knows more than he.

I’m sure he’ll laugh so hard he’ll upchuck a lung!


5,703 posted on 08/03/2009 2:57:01 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: razbinn

In 1964 I bought my first LP ...the Supremes...

It cost me L1 10s 6d in NZ money...

A princely sum...

:)


5,704 posted on 08/03/2009 2:57:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: machogirl

Hmmm dittos.... smells like baking cookies....


5,705 posted on 08/03/2009 2:57:29 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: MissTickly

My fam just walked in the door and I didn’t get to finish per our ‘economic system’ and big government:

Really your thoughts align with mine. I don’t usually state “less government needed” as a benefit of education, although I recognize it, because it’s just one of many I see.

IMO-Poverty breeds all crime, inequity, hate, oppression, etc... I believe that wholly. Because the poor are vulnerable in every way. If you give them an education, you arm ... them with a tool to fight vulnerability.

I believe in a capitalism, too, but I recognize it is based on competition. So we must accept that there will be winners and losers. Obviously, it behooves everyone and the idea of ‘competition in a free-market’ if those losers are they best, happiest, most-able-to-compete people that they can be. Imagine.

I really believe the only solution to poverty, of course, is education. We haven’t yet tried everything else yet but it seems that way to me.

Oh, and did I say I am sick of seeing class-warfare turned into ‘race-warfare?’

A Libertarian friend of mine recently said this: “It’s a perfect system, when the gears are greased properly - and if the people are the gears, then surely education is the grease that helps things run smoothly.”

That’s our common ground, anyway.


5,706 posted on 08/03/2009 2:58:33 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

Not applying veracity of the thesis, but it’s one that’s a possibility.

Regarding those vital records, many of us have commented that the simple fact may just be that what appears on his birth certificate is rather trivial, but could be in COMPLETE discordance with his scripted story, especially in his autobiographies, therefore being the *embarrassment* of LIES about his authentic past.

This is Larry Johnson’s agreement on that point:

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“Let me be clear. Barack Obama meets the Constitutional requirements to be President. He was a young boy when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

As a youngster he had no say in the amendment to his original birth certificate.

He also was introduced to Islam through his step-father. But that relationship ended when Barry Obama Soetoro returned to Hawaii to live with his grandparents.

He never renounced his U.S. citizenship.

The refusal of Barack Obama and his political team to forthrightly address these issues has kept the controversy alive.

The following video by video blogger syc1959 illustrates how a birth certificate is legally “updated” to reflect an adoption.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.noquarterusa.net%2Fblog%2F2009%2F07%2F27%2F2nd-posting-the-obama-birth-certificate-controversy%2F&feature=player_embedded

Barack Obama is now caught in the lie. If he comes clean with the original copy of the birth certificate he will be damaged politically because it will be clear he was not forthcoming or transparent about his childhood.

People will realize the story he has told is more myth than fact. This in turn will fuel a new meme, namely, that Barack Obama cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

Similarly the rightwing will be damaged if it persists with the nonsense that Barack was born in Kenya.

I know many believe this but it is not true. The real reason Barack Obama is evasive about his original birth certificate is that he wants people to forget he once was an Indonesian muslim boy named Barry Soetoro.

It is that simple.”

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/27/2nd-posting-the-obama-birth-certificate-controversy/


5,707 posted on 08/03/2009 2:59:07 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Tennessee Nana

If he steps down, I won’t care *how* he does it.

I’ll just be grateful he’s GONE.

I have not had one second’s peace of mind since this evil creature took over.


5,708 posted on 08/03/2009 2:59:57 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away..............)
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To: rolling_stone; Tennessee Nana
r_s

You are correct. Kenya and other British colonies in East Africa used the East African schilling as the basic currency unit. It superceded the Rupee in 1919:

It has already been pointed out in a previous paragraph that the British East African Protectorate has a decimal coinage based upon the form. Up till 1919 its principal coin was the rupee, which was legal tender at the rate of 15 to the pound. In order to avoid exchange difficulties this currency was abolished and the form was substituted. To meet the wishes of the mercantile community, however, the decimal subdivision was retained, and British East Africa was thus the first community to establish a variant of the pound-mil system.

The East African schilling was not replaced as Kenyan currency until 1966.

In other words it looks odd. However, again one must remember that this was a transition period in Kenya. As has been pointed out by many posters previously, one has to make a comparison with other similar documents from the same area and the same time period to come to a definite conclusion.

5,709 posted on 08/03/2009 3:00:52 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: STARWISE

Ask Larry where the Whitey Tapes are.


5,710 posted on 08/03/2009 3:00:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thank you for clarifying that Nana. I had asked a question on it a few minutes ago.


5,711 posted on 08/03/2009 3:01:16 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: the anti-liberal
[tongue in cheek] A civil war would go very well with the whole Zero = Lincoln thing...

Oh carp. I could have gone all year without reading that.

5,712 posted on 08/03/2009 3:01:27 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 195 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Someone on FR had confirmed from the paper (????) that the info for the announcement came from the State office. Think I saw that on the long thread yesterday.
5,713 posted on 08/03/2009 3:03:00 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: jcsjcm
"Mama Sarah was not Obama Sr.’s Mother..."

My point was that had she been O Sr's mother, there would not have been any case where she would have stated that she witnessed Sr's birth. The birth she witnessed would have to be junior.

5,714 posted on 08/03/2009 3:04:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Think free or die

You need to read up on Luo customs. There are quite a few articles on the net and a Luo musuem with pictures. It may have been quite possible she was a bride at 12. They could have sex with little girls but just not penetrate them. One girl could have multiple guys coming to her hut.They couldn’t penetrate until she was a bride..or some such thing.I just skimmed over it and don’t really remember what I read.


5,715 posted on 08/03/2009 3:05:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: STARWISE; All

Yep!!!

Been changed to “FAKE” and one of the “partners for this site is OBAMA ‘08!!!

Just damn.


5,716 posted on 08/03/2009 3:05:58 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: RetroSexual; hoosiermama
I sent an email to the organization which posted the image, hopefully they will respond with contact information.

thanks, let us know if they reply, but under the circumstances, I expect they will be very careful.

please include Freeper hoosiermama when you ping.

5,717 posted on 08/03/2009 3:06:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: livius

You’d be right, but in 1961, it said five years after age 14. And she was only 18 on BHO’s birth date, August 4, 1961.


5,718 posted on 08/03/2009 3:07:44 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: All
BREAKING HARD!!!!

The doc most have been discussing here is a doctored hack, not the original!! Orly's site WAS INDEED HACKED! See this FR thread!

47044 IS BOGUS! E.F. Lavender is BOGUS!

5,719 posted on 08/03/2009 3:08:20 PM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: STARWISE
He never renounced his U.S. citizenship.

Larry makes a lot of assumptions.

I wonder if Obama owns land back in Kenya that he may have inherited if he was born there, under Islamic Law, when part of the "Coastal Province" was called the "Republic of Kenya" in 1963.

I also wonder if there's a birth announcement in the Mombasa Times circa Aug. 4, 1964.

Gotta learn the facts before you can make educated guesses, Larry...

5,720 posted on 08/03/2009 3:08:33 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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