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Apple launches free iPhone 4 Case Program app; How to get your free iPhone bumper or case
Mac Daily News ^ | Friday, July 23, 2010 - 09:14 AM EDT

Posted on 07/23/2010 3:48:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Apple has launched their iPhone Case Program via an iOS app.

Follow these steps to apply for a Bumper or case.
1. Download the iPhone 4 Case Program app from the App Store.
2. Launch the app on your iPhone 4 and sign in using your iTunes Store account or Apple ID.
3. Select your Bumper or case.

For iPhone 4 purchases made before July 23, 2010, you must apply no later than August 22, 2010; otherwise, you must apply within 30 days of your iPhone 4 purchase. To qualify for this program, you must purchase your iPhone 4 by September 30, 2010. Read terms and conditions.

The iPhone 4 Case Program app is available via Apple's iTunes Store here.


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To: Swordmaker
I think that PA Engineer should not have posted that either.

With all due respects I disagree. People may disagree on a thread, but they do not have a right to disrupt a thread. This takes away the freedom of others to discuss between themselves.

Those with "skin in the game" know the importance of having a venue for the free exchange of ideas. I come here because that is what FreeRepublic has always been about.

I donate well here for that purpose and would donate much more if Jim ever sets up a legal fund to challenge the elite media.

We have coarse trolls here who are taking away our freedoms to pursue avenues of exchange. Driftdiver from its posting history is one of the worst. You know who the core 4 people are.

Sadly, I believe Jim needs to be brought into review the posting histories of these four. It would be appreciated if he could act to guarantee those freedoms on his forums.

Apple has done a great service to the American people. They have democratize the free flow of information once controlled by occupation elites. It seems odd that any true freedom loving conservative would spend so much time attempting to tear down such a company and disrupt the flow of information for those discussing it.

Again, I disagree. Driftdriver is the worst kind of troll. He is a disrupter that takes away the freedoms of others. What kind of person desires to take away others freedoms?
101 posted on 07/23/2010 7:27:17 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

T-Mo also makes way more sense from a technology standpoint, modifying the radio to work on T-Mo’s 3G bands would have to be easier than building a new one that works on CDMA.

I believe the acting CEO of T-MO is the same guy who signed the iPhone deal for T-MO in Europe, so he has a history of working with them.

Buildings suck for lots of phones. Thankfully this is a problem that can be easily worked around as most reviews list it as an otherwise great phone.

Speaking of buildings, when I went out to the lake last every bar we went into was in a metal building and my phone wouldn’t work. I think this should be a requirement for bars now.


102 posted on 07/23/2010 7:31:03 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
You're lying again, Swordmaker. It's not the signal attenuation that's the issue, it's the detuning of the antenna when you bridge the two together with a single finger. This was objectively PROVEN by Consumer Reports and Anandtech.

Please show us the link to Consumers Reports' proof of their technical expertise in measuring cellular phone signal strength. In fact, Puget, show us a link that shows where CU has ever measured smart phone reception signal strength before as part of their evaluations. Show us the sophisticated equipment they used to measure the iPhone's dBm signal attenuation, which is all they measured and, contrary to your assertion of detuning proof, never even mentioned detuning. All CU was capable of doing was using the iPhone's own admittedly flawed internal algorithms and observe it's five bar micro meter on the screen as they squirted known micro wattage dumb radio waves at it. They had no way of testing for dropped calls because they don't have the sophisticated cellular phone radio emulators necessary to do that kind of testing.

As for Anandtech, I give him kudos for bypassing the flawed graphics of the five bar meter and finding a way to get a numeric display of dBm instead. His is much more accurate and he also mentions the detuning problem. However, Anand shoots you down by stating, the following in his article:

If you add a bumper case to the iPhone 4, the signal strength drop from holding the device is on par if not better than other phones.

Most users are NOT experiencing the problems you continue to bloviate so breathlessly about. I certainly am not. Nor are eleven of the twelve friends I have who have the iPhone 4. The one who did experience some dropped calls lives in the boonies where the AT&T signal is very spotty to say the least. After the upgrade to iOS 4.0.1 she says she has fewer dropped calls around her house, and it never says "No Service" which it frequently displayed in the first three weeks she had it, although it does drop to one or two bars most of the time. My phone, after the upgrade, is no longer bouncing from five to one bar at my house, where I've always had three cell towers fighting about which provides service here. Now I generally show between three and four bars, with no bouncing.

103 posted on 07/23/2010 7:49:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a product "insult" free zone!)
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To: PA Engineer; driftdiver; Swordmaker
> People may disagree on a thread, but they do not have a right to disrupt a thread. This takes away the freedom of others to discuss between themselves.

Look, trolls disgust me. I've given the anti-Apple trolls a lot of grief in recent months for their disruption of the Apple threads. I prefer reasonable discussion, and actively have tried to foster it and discourage trolling and pointless arguing. Swordmaker will attest to this.

And I am disgusted when threads get twisted and corrupted by hate-filled, provocative, pointless comments that are only intended to insult and incite flamewars.

But I must remind you of Voltaire's statement about defending the right of an opponent to say what he wants.

Your freedom to discuss is not being infringed by the trolls. Your sensibilities are being assaulted, but nobody is taking away your right to post comments on the thread.

You could look into one of the tools that allow you to block certain posters by name. I don't use one myself, meaning that I have to read past all the crappy troll posts manually. And I seem to recall that those tools are generally frowned upon by the management. But you can find them if you are sufficiently grossed out by the troll posts that you feel your freedom is being infringed.

Lighten up a bit. I mean, FreeRepublic is a blessing and by the grace of God it will continue to provide us with a forum for discussion. But geez, it's an internet forum, not your backyard.

Driftdiver has a right to mouth off, and we fellow FReepers have cannot deny him that right (the Mods can!). We can ignore him, but not shut him up.

Let us, rather, engage in reasonable discussion, and draw him into it, ignoring any trollish tendencies, and encouraging more mannerly conversation.

OTOH, if driftdiver shows up in your backyard, yelling about how Apple sucks dead monkey d*ck, call me, I promise I'll show up and help you throw him out. :)

105 posted on 07/23/2010 7:57:00 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: PA Engineer; Swordmaker; Admin Moderator; PugetSoundSoldier; for-q-clinton

Admin Moderator,

According to PA Engineer in post 101 I am the worst of the worst and bring down the value of the entire site. I admit I lose my temper and post things I shouldn’t. Sometimes you guys delete them but usually not. My only intent is to try and represent an alternate view to the blind mac love that so many mac users have. Newbies really do need to see there is disagreement to the Apple PR.

As far as I know Jim or you mods have not made Apple threads the same as the religion threads where disagreement is not allowed.

Ban me if you think its appropriate and that I’m bring down the entire site. IMO there is plenty of hate being thrown my way and I feel a need to defend myself. Pugetsoundsoldier and for-q clinton have encountered the same and worse.

So ban me if I really am that bad and I’ll find something more useful to do with my time. Perhaps I’ll even have more time to go diving or play with my kids more. :)

Cheers!


106 posted on 07/23/2010 7:57:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PA Engineer; Swordmaker; driftdiver
Apple has done a great service to the American people. They have democratize the free flow of information once controlled by occupation elites. It seems odd that any true freedom loving conservative would spend so much time attempting to tear down such a company and disrupt the flow of information for those discussing it.

This is the same Apple that has sworn to "keep porn off the iPhone" without defining what porn is?

This is the same Apple that refuses to allow you to do with your phone what you want, without breaking the law?

This is the same Apple that refuses to allow alternative hardware platforms for their OS?

This is the same Apple that demands you cannot use unapproved development tools even if the results are acceptable?

This is the same Apple that refuses to let you sell an App that competes with their own tools?

This is the same Apple that will twist and spin and lie about their problems to cover their engineering gaffes?

Is this your idea of democracy and openness? You really need to look at the rest of the PC world to see what openness really is...

107 posted on 07/23/2010 7:57:13 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Swordmaker

Swordmaker,

It’s really simple:

The iPhone 4 has the normal absorption/shielding loss of all cell phones.

It also has extra loss (about 10 dB - ten TIMES more) from touching the bare antenna.

You cannot deny that fact. And yet you do...

Doesn’t matter how many people you think are affected by it, and Apple lost ALL credibility when they released those videos which was just smoke and mirrors for the actual problem.

The antenna design is flawed, and their actions of free bumpers proves they know it. Their marketing-speak - which you are religiously regurgitating - says otherwise, but actions speak louder than words.


108 posted on 07/23/2010 8:01:20 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

You’re right. Apple sucks. I’m going to get one of these groovy new phones from Microsoft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw0m6J83L9s


109 posted on 07/23/2010 8:05:41 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: driftdiver
I can't believe I'm writing this. :)

Driftdiver, I would not want you to be banned from the Apple (or any other) threads, simply because you express a contrary point of view, even in a snarky way.

I -would- ask that you refrain from unnecessarily provocative (trollish) statements that are only intended to piss off or insult the pro-Apple folks. Nobody appreciates that flamebait crap.

But I for one will defend your right to post opposing opinions, if done in a manner that adheres to the posting rules of FreeRepublic as stated by JimRob.

110 posted on 07/23/2010 8:08:31 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

“Driftdiver, I would not want you to be banned from the Apple (or any other) threads,”

Thank you, you’ve been very cordial most of the time even though we have disagreed.

“Nobody appreciates that flamebait crap. “

Oh I agree. The only reason I started doing it was because of the abuse I took when I posted a disagreeing viewpoint. Sure two wrongs don’t make a right but the abuse gets tiresome.

“But I for one will defend your right to post opposing opinions, “

And I you, and no I am NOT giving you a hug.


111 posted on 07/23/2010 8:13:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Richard Kimball

Not sure how an ad for the failed Kin ties into an open platform, but whatever...

Apple is probably the worst (well, Sun used to be the worst when they were still relevant) in terms of closing and controlling their platforms. They’re exactly the OPPOSITE of what you’d point to when you want to trumpet the open and free exchange of ideas!


112 posted on 07/23/2010 8:14:13 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: driftdiver
> ...and no I am NOT giving you a hug.

Whew! Had me starting to worry for a second there! :)

Okay, we can go back to arguing now...

113 posted on 07/23/2010 8:20:55 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; PugetSoundSoldier

Take some of Puget’s posts, he documents very well and stays away from insults.

Many times the reply is pure hate.

Some people get deeply emotionally invested in things they spend money on.


114 posted on 07/23/2010 8:24:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
> Apple is probably the worst (well, Sun used to be the worst when they were still relevant) in terms of closing and controlling their platforms. They’re exactly the OPPOSITE of what you’d point to when you want to trumpet the open and free exchange of ideas!

Ummm, yeah, and so what?

Apple produces high-quality proprietary *systems*, of highly integrated hardware and software, with excellent support, that would be much more difficult for a niche company if their product were totally free and open.

They do a damn good job almost all the time, with a few spectacular missteps. They're an extremely successful, profitable company, an outstanding example of American Capitalism.

So they make a proprietary product, and guard it closely, and restrict what you can or can't do with it. So what? All of what they do is perfectly legal. And in Apple's case, it's good business, and arguably necessary to their survival as a niche player in a Microsoft/PC-dominated marketplace.

(This is not to defend any statements about Apple being open and free, they're not. But no one should expect them to be. Your slamming tone is unwarranted. In other words, I'm agreeing with you, but adding: "Ummm, d-uh, so what?")

115 posted on 07/23/2010 8:29:31 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; PA Engineer

Please see post 101; PA Engineer was trumpeting how Apple was open, free, and democratizing when I think we both agree it’s about as closed and controlled as you can get.

They make good products; I’m not denying that at all. But it’s hardly the open bastion of freedom and democracy some try to portray.


116 posted on 07/23/2010 8:39:57 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: driftdiver; PugetSoundSoldier
> Take some of Puget’s posts, he documents very well and stays away from insults.

Generally, yes. There have been a few amazing flamewars where he's given as good as he got, but I find my conversations with him most often rewarding and occasionally educational.

> Many times the reply is pure hate. Some people get deeply emotionally invested in things they spend money on.

Well, Puget does seem to intentionally draw fire at times. I have occasionally been tempted to send him a private mail suggesting that he not shove his stick into a hornets' nest, but really that's none of my business. He's got a right to draw fire if he wants to.

But then, the pro-Apple folks have difficulty sometimes adhering to Swordmaker's admonition to not feed the trolls, too, and they draw fire unnecessarily as well.

Hey, FR is an internet forum. By internet standards, we're surprisingly well-mannered, at least most of the time.

Besides, it's summer -- we're starting to enter the Silly Season. Expect it to get even more bizarre before it gets better again. :)

117 posted on 07/23/2010 8:41:36 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
OTOH, if driftdiver shows up in your backyard, yelling about how Apple sucks dead monkey d*ck, call me, I promise I'll show up and help you throw him out. :)

Thanks, but no problem. I'm sitting on my porch typing with a new pair of jump boots I'm trying to break in (I think you understand). Now those are what are killing me right now.

The disruptions of the free exercise of speech must stop.
118 posted on 07/23/2010 8:44:05 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer; dayglored; driftdiver
The disruptions of the free exercise of speech must stop.

Do you have any idea how Orwellian that sentence is? Big Brother just shed a tear of happiness reading that...

NO ONE is stopping you from posting, nor disrupting your ability to post. Others are commenting at the same time. You may disagree with what they state, but that is FAR from disrupting your free exercise of speech.

119 posted on 07/23/2010 8:51:01 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; PA Engineer
> Please see post 101; PA Engineer was trumpeting how Apple was open, free, and democratizing when I think we both agree it’s about as closed and controlled as you can get.

PA Engineer said:

> Apple has done a great service to the American people. They have democratize the free flow of information once controlled by occupation elites. It seems odd that any true freedom loving conservative would spend so much time attempting to tear down such a company and disrupt the flow of information for those discussing it.

Let's see...

Apple has done a great service to the American people.

At a profitable price, mind you. Apple provides terrific products, and I have a good number of them; I've been an Apple customer for about 30 years. As groovy as Steve Jobs appears, he's first and foremost an excellent CEO, and his business is to return on his stockholders' investment, which he does admirably. Love for his customers and service to the American people is secondary.

They have democratize the free flow of information once controlled by occupation elites.

I have no idea what this means. I'm inclined to suggest to PA Engineer that he check, maybe he missed his evening meds. A re-phrasing is needed, at a minimum.

It seems odd that any true freedom loving conservative would spend so much time attempting to tear down such a company and disrupt the flow of information for those discussing it.

I agree, but this is an internet forum. Oddness is to be expected.

120 posted on 07/23/2010 8:52:57 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Fair enough - I was just kind of shocked that Apple would be used as a sign of openness and support for the free flow of information, especially in light of their highly restrictive treatment of the iPhone and App Store...


121 posted on 07/23/2010 9:00:01 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
> Fair enough - I was just kind of shocked that Apple would be used as a sign of openness and support for the free flow of information, especially in light of their highly restrictive treatment of the iPhone and App Store...

The echoes of Apple's legendary, iconic "1984" Macintosh ad are still reverberating in the brainpans of most Americans, even those who were not around in 1984 to see it. Apple has carefully kept their anti-establishment image alive for 25 years.

To understand Apple, one must separate the concept of artistic/creative freedom from technical/ownership freedom.

Apple's version of freedom is the former -- "We will supply you with the best single-source tools in the world, to let your creativity express itself and do things you cannot do with any other products. We will make this easy and fool-proof, so that you don't have to worry about the technical details."

This is a direct contrast with the latter, which is best exemplified by Linux -- "We will all cooperatively work on tools that aren't ever quite right, but you get to contribute to them and improve them yourself. We expect you to learn the technical details, but in return, with some effort, you can do whatever you want with these tools."

Linux is free and open, but takes a fair amount of effort to get working. Apple costs money and is closed, but is dead simple and just works. Seems to me that choice is good. I use them both.

I also use Windows, which is neither free nor open, nor is it dead-simple, and (until Win7) it did not just work. But that's a whole 'nother angle... :)

122 posted on 07/23/2010 9:19:55 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: driftdiver

Is there a valid reason for you to come in flaming and disrupting these apple threads? I suggest you back off.


124 posted on 07/23/2010 10:34:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

How about just moving on to a different topic and leaving these folks alone. It’s no skin off your back if they like Apple.


125 posted on 07/23/2010 10:36:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: driftdiver

Keep up the disruption and you will definitely get your wish.


126 posted on 07/23/2010 10:38:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: All

That goes for everyone. I don’t see any reason whatsoever to be having flamewars on FR over computer products. Those who have a problem with Apple should just not buy the product and that takes care of that. Don’t come to FR to flame those who like the product. That’s just dumb. Who cares what computer products people use.

Everyone on these threads need to lighten up! On all sides!!


127 posted on 07/23/2010 10:44:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: BunnySlippers

I have the white GS, so I must wait for the white 4. And if they DO change the antenna somehow, even BETTER.


129 posted on 07/23/2010 11:01:19 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: RachelFaith; Jim Robinson

Well, seems I missed the fireworks and Jim himself has posted laying down the law of civility. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. Guess I can ignore the 20 other nasty pings I missed while doing casework tonight.

PAX


130 posted on 07/23/2010 11:12:17 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: driftdiver
This incident has had a huge impact on the brand value.

Hugh! And Series! There has been a catastrophic 4% drop in Apple's share price since the iPhone 4 came out, which means that those poor bastard shareholders are only up by 225% in the last two years.

They call it cutting-edge because it's sometimes painful and bloody. It's a glitch. In a year, two at most, everyone will have forgotten about it except the Apple-bashers who will add it to their litany right after exploding laptop batteries and one-button mice.

131 posted on 07/23/2010 11:39:22 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Mr. Blonde
Speaking of buildings, when I went out to the lake last every bar we went into was in a metal building and my phone wouldn’t work. I think this should be a requirement for bars now.

I think I want to open a bar called the Faraday Cage.

132 posted on 07/23/2010 11:43:12 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
I think I want to open a bar called the Faraday Cage.

I like it, but think about that "Cage" thingy. I get these visions of Pattaya Beach. ;-)
133 posted on 07/23/2010 11:48:10 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Jim Robinson; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; ...
Jim Robinson has declared "Cease Fire!" in computer and phone flame wars on Free Republic!!! This has the force of site policy. Those who want to come here to attack others for their choice of computers should go elsewhere to express that opinion. PING!
Please don't attack people for their choice of computer or phone!
Pros and Cons of Equipment is fair Game, Name calling is not!

Flame Wars are not welcome on Free Republic!

Look up thread for Jim Robinson's Statement.


Flame War Cease Fire Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.


134 posted on 07/23/2010 11:55:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a product "insult" free zone!)
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To: ReignOfError

“They call it cutting-edge because it’s sometimes painful and bloody. “

Yes, and every tech company has the problem.


135 posted on 07/24/2010 4:21:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker
Good morning!
A mac thread in the Smoky backroom?

Many thanks for the ping and maintaining the Mac Ping List!
136 posted on 07/24/2010 5:16:02 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Gates has the market sewn up ... but Steve Jobs truly INNOVATES. They are like two sides of the same coin.
Please name an innovation from Steve Jobs.
Apple II.

First mass-market GUI OS.

iPod

Basically, Apple adds features and quality to known products, producing not perhaps the best that can be made, and not the one which will sell the biggest market share - but the best mass-market products in category. And bends the categories, too.

But he is so good at making and marketing the best mass-market digital devices that he practically invented that market niche. He leaves the niche of "largest volume" to Microsoft et al - and still has a bigger gross, and market cap, of any digital device maker.


137 posted on 07/24/2010 6:13:28 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Orange1998

“WOW mine can in today by Fedx. Ordered it on Monday and got it Friday from att.com. This phone is smokin fast compared to the 3g. Impressed.”

WOW, you got far faster service than I did! I stopped by a local AT&T store, ordered the upgrade, and was told 5-10 business days. I got an email yesterday (six days after the order) saying it was ready for shipping with tracking number. As of yesterday it was about halfway here...I’m excited about seeing it firsthand!

I’m a bit annoyed that I can’t order a case until I have the phone in hand, guess I’d better keep the “gift horse” homily in mind. Next time I’ll look at ordering online.

Enjoy your phone!


138 posted on 07/24/2010 6:53:45 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: Swordmaker; Jim Robinson
Yeaaaay!!

I look forward to getting back to discussing the pros and cons of stuff on the tech threads (whether they be Apple or Windows or Linux or whatever) without the unnecessary provocative crap, from any side.

Thanks, Jim.

139 posted on 07/24/2010 7:30:51 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Personally loved the apple and anti apple trolls. Was good stuff.

Now on to why the Active tab doesn’t work.

This post was made on my Iphone


140 posted on 07/24/2010 7:38:24 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: downwdims
Now on to why the Active tab doesn’t work.

It’s broke.
- Jim Robinson
141 posted on 07/24/2010 8:05:29 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: downwdims
> Personally loved the apple and anti apple trolls. Was good stuff.

You can find plenty of it still, on the forum sites where the 13-year-old tech wannabees hang out. ;-)

> This post was made on my Iphone

I have a heck of a time posting on my iPod -- it can be done, but after 2 minutes of pecking at it, I'm searching for a real computer keyboard... like my MacBook, or my Win7 desktop. The handhelds are fine for really short messages but I find them frustrating for anything longer than an SMS.

More power to ya!

142 posted on 07/24/2010 8:21:06 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

I can do well posting and surfing. what kills me is posting pics and html. For that I need my Win7 machine


143 posted on 07/24/2010 8:37:43 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Might as well pick up the Anti Glare screen cover. I am having trouble locating case, ATT was out. I can not go 4 to 6 weeks without the case. The antenna bars fall after 4 seconds of touching metal rim and sometime the signal searches. I can’t believe Jobs was trying to cop out of the problem. Other than that the phone is fantastic and every way.


145 posted on 07/24/2010 1:46:52 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Apple II was pre-dated by many other personal computers. It wasn’t even that big of a seller, being way outsold by many options from Commodore (who still holds the record for the greatest sales of any model of computer).

As far as the first mass-market GUI OS, define mass market. The Macs were a small player in the market, the C64s and PCs greatly eclipsing what the Mac had. The GEOS on the C64 sold something like 1.5 million copies, about 5 times more than the Mac at the time.

The iPod? Portable MP3 players had been in commercial production for 6-7 years before the iPod. Rio and Creative both had strong presence in the market.

Apple’s been much more a “take an idea and polish it to a high degree” than to actually innovate or create new concepts. Which is what you state. That’s not innovation, though - that’s simply execution on an existing idea.

And as far as bigger gross? Not a chance. Siemens, Samsung, LG, and several others (including Microsoft) gross more than Apple.


146 posted on 07/24/2010 3:34:04 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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