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What if my daughter grows up to be Republican?
Salon ^ | August 7, 2011 | Sue Sanders

Posted on 08/07/2011 12:25:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

At 12, Lizzie is a liberal like me. But what if one day she embraces the Tea Party, like her grandparents?

My parents are Tea Party. I'm a liberal. My husband is to the left of your average communist. Dinners together walk a tightrope of small talk -- none of us wanting to veer too far in either direction, frightened we'll go careening into a political abyss. Our daughter, Lizzie, is always a safe topic. She's our Switzerland.

But I'm not sure how much longer that will last. Lizzie, at 12, is becoming politically aware.

She's always been well informed. Not that she had much of a choice. After the 2000 election and before her first birthday, she participated in her first protest. I stuffed her in her bright green baby backpack and headed to Times Square. There, she grinned and drooled as tourists in fanny packs and white tennis shoes yelled mean things at a dozen of us who were demanding that votes be counted. They weren't, thanks to the Supreme Court, and George W. Bush was sworn in -- thus assuring that Lizzie's formative years had ample opportunities for protest. Her favorite was the huge antiwar rally in Central Park, when she was 3. There were balloons and face painting -- and the playground near the park was more exciting than the ones back in Brooklyn, N.Y., where we then lived. Riding the train home, she waved her small paper flag like a sword and chanted, "No Twar! No Twar!" Then she yawned and asked for her sippie cup.

I don't want to indoctrinate my child into the cult of my political beliefs. I want her to make up her own mind. But, since she's a kid, she mirrors our beliefs, as her friends do their parents'. If I were a neo-Nazi, a Know Nothing, or a Glenn Beck-watching right-winger, she would probably share my misguided views. But I'm a Prius-driving, composting liberal -- and therefore so is Lizzie. (Except the driving part -- at 12, she doesn't yet. Thankfully.) It's not like we sit her down with Karl Marx flashcards or whisper Howard Zinn to her as she sleeps, but we talk a lot at dinner, discussing politics and what's going on not just in our neighborhood or city, but in the world. (We recently chatted about climate change and chocolate eclairs -- and, because my husband is a historian, she probably knows more about Alger Hiss than any other kid her age.) But how to balance the way we view the world with how other people do? How to show her both sides of the political picture?

Our family dinners are very different from those when I was a kid. Back then, we didn't discuss politics at the dinner table -- or anywhere else. Our household was more of a dictatorship, with my dad's conservative beliefs reigning supreme. There was no room for dissent and none encouraged. When I was in second grade, I made up my own mind about an election. Our teacher gave us each a copy of the Weekly Reader, which still smelled of fresh newsprint. One story was about the '72 election and we got to vote! I'd checked the box next to McGovern's head. It was a nice head, I'd thought. He looked so kind compared to that Nixon fellow. I skipped to our house, no doubt wearing an outfit like a plaid jumper with a bow affixed to my hair, something that would have fit in more in, say, 1964 Omaha rather than 1972 San Francisco, where we lived at the time. I have no way to prove this scientifically, but I'm pretty sure we were the squarest family in San Francisco. While other kids were singing along to the Rolling Stones' "Brown Sugar," we attended an Up With People concert.

Dropping my plastic school satchel on the ground, I proudly pulled out the secret ballot to show my parents. "No one in our house votes Democratic!" my dad scolded. He was joking, of course, but I still felt ashamed, like I'd just admitted I loved macrame plant holders or hippies. How could I have been so wrong? I should have voted for Nixon! My parents later did, and he won. Meanwhile, I slunk off, feeling like I'd committed a crime -- as the man my parents voted for soon would. I have no idea if I crumbled up that Weekly Reader or if my mom eventually stuffed it in the trash. In my mind, I picture myself crumbling it up, my first foray into politics a horrid mistake.

But do my husband and I truly encourage dissent with our daughter? What if Lizzie decides she wants to volunteer for whomever runs on the GOP ticket in 2012? She'll be in eighth grade then. Would I drive her to help with that campaign? I happily drove all over eastern Pennsylvania when she wanted to canvass for Obama. She held pamphlets as we meandered door to door, encouraging registered Democrats to vote. Would I do the same quite as cheerfully if she supported Michele Bachmann or Mitt Romney? I don't think so. But I honestly can't see Lizzie embracing a Republican candidate. For her, politics is all about values, and for now, at least, she values fairness and the environment.

And how to explain "values" and the coded semantics of political language to a kid? During a recent local election, Lizzie and I trawled the voters' guide, which was filled with names and photos of candidates and blurbs about their positions on various issues. One candidate had written she supported "family values." I muttered, "Uh-oh. I'll stay away from her."

"But Mom, aren't family values a good thing? Our family has values," she said, puzzled.

I tried to explain that those "family values" were often quite different from what our family values.

If she someday embraces "family values," the Tea Party or other right-wing agendas, could it damage my relationship with her? Although I try to understand my parents' political beliefs, I don't. When I see what Newsmax "article" or Wall Street Journal editorial my father "likes" on Facebook, or glance at a photo, taken a few years back, of my folks dressed as McCain and Palin for Halloween, I feel physically sick. Sometimes it's hard to even have simple conversations with them. Even the most innocent pleasantry, like "Nice weather," could spiral out of control if I don't watch what I say. (For the record, they are loving grandparents and are far more gracious than I am about not bringing up delicate topics.) If my dad says, "I bet you guys are happy you're not back east this winter. All that snow in New York." I'm tempted to mutter something about climate change, but instead I bite my tongue and say, "Yes, in Portland we don't have to shovel rain."

It sometimes seems my parents and I are as divided as Congress, neither side understanding the other's point of view. But when I'm around them, I'm somehow whisked right back to adolescence. I morph into a sullen 16-year-old with no power, whose views are considered childish. I want to engage, to discuss topics calmly with them, but my emotions knock any possibility of cool-headed debate out of the way. All my facts and statistics -- the cornerstone of rational debate -- get gummed together in my mouth by raw emotion and I only manage to get out incoherent raw ravings. And if history is any indication of the future, I'm doomed to repeat myself.

I wish I could calmly debate issues like my husband does. Or maybe I should take a lesson from Lizzie. The truth is, she can teach me a thing or two about politics. Instead of getting scorched by the heat of the moment, like I do, she's cool and collected. She listens intently. Then a question she asks will sum up the prejudice of the other side quite succinctly. "Why don't Grammy and Grampy want Charlie's moms to get married? That's not fair."

And she's right. It's not.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As long as the daughter is well informed she will become a Tea Partier. If the daughter is misinformed she may well become a leftist.


61 posted on 08/07/2011 2:16:52 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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To: School of Rational Thought

When my granddaughter was 17 months old she bent herself in half to see Glenn Beck on tv. I mentioned it to my son and he said they watched him every day and she sat quietly on his lap for the entire show.

Imagine my surprise..he never showed any interest in news of any kind, his explanation was now I have a kid..I have to worry what goes on in the world.

A smile never left my face during his visit and after he left I patted myself on the back and said you did good! I raised an informed young man for the next generation.


62 posted on 08/07/2011 2:30:59 PM PDT by Dianer0839 (King Aragorn says, Hobbits bow to NO-ONE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Lizzie is hot, she's much more likely to become a Republican (Palin, Bachmann, Noem, Blackburn, etc.). If she’ fugly, she'll be a Democrat (Hitlery, Wasserman Schultz, DeLauro, Boxer, Moochelle, etc.).

Not really hard to figure out.

63 posted on 08/07/2011 2:43:52 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poor kid.


64 posted on 08/07/2011 2:51:29 PM PDT by hattend (As always...FUJM)
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To: x
Sure, because wishing people dead is always a valuable contribution to discussion

Wow, XXX, you're wrapped tighter than three rolls of tar paper.

Can't you enjoy a little levity and humor?

I could see you being upset if he wanted to see the kid, the mom and the old communist dad all three dying in a forest fire, or being eaten alive by San Fransisco's gay HIV positive homeless cannibals.

But he only wanted her to become an orphan, so his wish spared the little liberal in training.

The world would be a better place if the young'un was raised by conservative grand parents, but it didn't seem to help their daughter.

65 posted on 08/07/2011 2:52:14 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: itsLUCKY2B

More people will read that if you put in paragraphs breaks.


66 posted on 08/07/2011 2:57:15 PM PDT by hattend (As always...FUJM)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I was going with the figure from The Black Book of Communism. But what’s another 100 million between between Communists?


67 posted on 08/07/2011 3:08:05 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You always wanted her to become better off than you, didn’t you, Sue?


68 posted on 08/07/2011 3:11:20 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Facts and statistics”? YOUR Communist has just succeeded in spending 101% of our annual GDP. How’s that for a statistic? MAYBE your kid won’t be as senseless as you are. Bob


69 posted on 08/07/2011 3:19:18 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("I'll just go back to the dream I was having, before love went astray." Al Stewart)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lizzie has one dunce of a mommy who should have listened better to her old man.


70 posted on 08/07/2011 3:38:05 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is either satire or we have met the idiot of idiots.
71 posted on 08/07/2011 4:00:59 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Couldn’t read through her entire phony exorcise of impressing herself. She doesn’t know who she is or where she’s going. Most Freepers I know, have no question who they are or what is right. They will educate their kids appropriately. When correctly taught, conservative youth will get to college and be well-equipped with critical thinking skills; everyone’s different, of course. Most libs I know, and am friends with, are honestly are the most lost and rudderless people.


72 posted on 08/07/2011 4:03:23 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The truth is, if you forget she is a liberal, a conservative mom could have written the same thing. If your 13-year-old wanted to canvas for Obama, would you happily drive him around? It’s a good point.

All the L.A. Bleeding Hearts I know have successfully made their children (those whose kids have grown to 18 or more) into libs too. it’s kind of obvious that this would happen. Their neighborhoods and schools are filled with libs and so is all the media and the Hollywood crowd all around us.

The good thing about conservative parents is that the kids hear about the truth (freedom trumps do-gooding politics) all their lives. Liberal kids NEVER EVER hear conservative principles, until that one day when they are stuck in a car somewhere with nothing but Rush Limbaugh on the dial. If our kids do decide at 20 to be do-gooders or get into environmental issues, we can rely on the old saw that if you aren’t a liberal at 20, you have no heart... Knowing that by 40 our kids will be back to the good side.


73 posted on 08/07/2011 4:20:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tanniker Smith

Yeah, that last part didn’t quite ring true.


74 posted on 08/07/2011 5:12:01 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There, she grinned and drooled as tourists in fanny packs and white tennis shoes yelled mean things at a dozen of us who were demanding that votes be counted. They weren't, thanks to the Supreme Court, and George W. Bush was sworn in --

Hmmm. I wonder what Lizzie is going to think of her 'enlightened' mother, when she learns that her mother's hide-bound belief that the Supreme Court stole the 2000 election from Algore is totally WRONG, and she's been lied to all of her young life.

75 posted on 08/07/2011 5:42:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Hugin

Yes, I have read the same book (very depressing), but I read an article a few years that said a couple of Chinese scholars had done their own research and tabulated the number at 177 million.


76 posted on 08/07/2011 5:43:33 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Then a question she asks will sum up the prejudice of the other side quite succinctly. "Why don't Grammy and Grampy want Charlie's moms to get married? That's not fair."
And she's right. It's not.

And I guess poor Lizzie is going to have to learn the hard way that life isn't always fair, and we don't always get what we want.

77 posted on 08/07/2011 5:46:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sue Sanders

79 posted on 08/07/2011 6:18:41 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Luckily, communists like this tend to have 1 kid only, if they reproduce at all. They can only fit one in the back of the Prius, and besides, it’s environmentally irresponsible to have more than 1 child.

Breed them out!!!!


80 posted on 08/07/2011 6:38:57 PM PDT by crusader71
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