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To: wintertime; AtlasStalled; Ernie Kaputnik
Please read post #21.
What would be your reaction if your newborn were kidnapped from the hospital? It can and has happened.


This was not a kidnapping situation and you know it. All the parties were known to each other. Nice straw man argument but it won't fly.

If a parent wishes to be discharged (with her infant) there is a rational, legal, and completely non-confrontational way to go about doing that.

This wasn't about being discharged. A parent wanted to take a walk with his newborn, and has stated that other nurses had already given permission to do exactly that. Two other nurses overreacted by called a 'code pink'. If they were that concerned about an 'abduction', one or both of them could have accompanied the parent and kept the infant in sight. This was not an abduction attempt and physically attempting to take the infant from the parent by force was a dubious and unwise way to proceed and could have resulted in injury to the infant, and they're damn lucky it didn't.

I'll bet you show up on those 'cops gone wild' threads to defend everything they do too, don't you?
38 posted on 02/26/2012 9:54:11 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: mkjessup

The code pink was probably automatically triggered because the babies armband triggered the alarm when the baby was leaving the ward.
I also find it hard to believe that a nurse gave permission against hospital policy.
It does not ring true to me.


40 posted on 02/26/2012 9:57:04 AM PST by kaila
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To: mkjessup

Way to go, MK!

Believe you hit ‘em so hard, they’ll still be choking on their brand muffins tomorrow morning. Man, that’s gonna leave a mark.

Shock and Awe: They’re shocked and your post was awesome.


45 posted on 02/26/2012 10:21:45 AM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: mkjessup
If they were that concerned about an ‘abduction’, one or both of them could have accompanied the parent and kept the infant in sight.
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Wow! Just walk out and leave the mothers and babies on the maternity unit without care? Really? That's a good way to endanger the the other patients ( and get fired.)

This is how rational people would handle the problem:

Ask to speak to the nursing supervisor, if that fails, call the public relations department of the hospital. The PR department is closely associated with the hospital attorney. If that doesn't suit you, then quietly and safely discharge yourself and the healthy infant from the hospital.

However....People who are not drunk, high on cocaine or meth, or spoiled brats fully understand the hospital kidnapping protocol well before admission to the hospital, and have the maturity and patience to wait the 2, 3, or more hours to make the arrangements to safely and in a non-confrontational manner, leave the hospital.

46 posted on 02/26/2012 10:22:55 AM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: mkjessup
This was not a kidnapping situation and you know it.
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Really?....Just because he is a famous “ Boy Kennedy” a nurse is supposed to know that there are no marital, pending divorce issues, or child custody issues going on? When did they start handing out crystal balls or mind reading machines with R.N. degrees?

Really? They are just to take the word of a doctor that they might not even met or seen before and the word of a friend from **that** dysfunctional family? Do the nurses know for certain that this man is a doctor?

And...Honestly, I can't imagine an ethical doctor asking a nurse to risk her job, risk his own professional reputation, and break such and important kidnapping standard just for something as **trivial*** as a stroll outside. ( That doesn't make sense to me either in this story.) If the doctor were a real friend to this spoiled brat, he would have explained this to the “Kennedy-boy” and advised him to wait for a safe discharge from the hospital before strolling about with his infant.

It is **exactly** for reasons like this, above, that protocols are in place for the protection of the infant, and it would be very unusual for mothers and fathers not to be well informed of these rational hospital protocols well before admission.

55 posted on 02/26/2012 10:51:58 AM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: mkjessup
they were that concerned about an 'abduction', one or both of them could have accompanied the parent and kept the infant in sight

They tried, that's the subject of this article. It's Mr. Kennedy's attorney's allegation that a nurse tried to grab the baby from Mr. Kennedy's arms as he tried to enter the elevator unauthorized.

The video disputes that claim and shows the result of Mr. Kennedy's kicking of a nurse that tried to prevent him from leaving with a baby he claimed was his........

143 posted on 02/26/2012 2:32:01 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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