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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: smoothsailing

Maybe someday Ryan will be at the top of the ticket. At least I can support Ryan for VP now.


51 posted on 08/11/2012 5:09:19 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ... there is no such thing as coincidence)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree. Romney is extremely disturbing.

The way I see it though is as two opposing armies, preparing for battle. One side’s leading general is only just slightly less odious than the other’s. But if you go and join some other partisans somewhere you’ll miss the battle—and make the victory of the most wicked general more likely.

For something like 200 years now a 2 party system has been functionally what America has got. The Democrats are, more often then not, the party of criminals.

Social conservatism has a fighting chance with Romney—and NO CHANCE with Obama. If Obama wins, I honestly expect to see opinions like that of Mr. Cathy of Chick-Fil-A fully criminalized—as is already happening in Canada and Europe. Churches will be directly targeted, and with another couple Supreme Court justices needing appointment...if that is Obama, he will certainly appoint totalitarians. Mitt MIGHT...but at least there’s a fighting chance he won’t.

Both economic AND religious liberty, along with freedom of speech, not to mention the 2nd Amendment, will be destroyed in another 4 years of Obama, and we will have a totalitarian state.

Even if Romney is the same kind of lying squish he was in Massachusetts...it cannot be anything near the calamity of an Obama 2nd term.


52 posted on 08/11/2012 5:10:23 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ryan was a great pick because he gets under Obama's skin in a way that no other VP pick did.

I look forward to the day in January when Ryan waves goodbye to Obama as the helicopter takes him back to Chicago.

53 posted on 08/11/2012 5:11:00 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, Jim. We appreciate knowing what you’re thinking as events unfold.
It’s tense here. I see support for Romney, and the only thing that keeps me even-tempered is that it’s your site, not mine, and your decision to tolerate them. I suppose that’s practical and all, but I’m glad I’m not calling those shots.
Same with anti-Mormons. They offend someone and you have to decide.
I’d be lopping off accounts every couple of minutes, and eventually have no visitors left.
We’re all cranky, seeing Romney coasting to a position he does not deserve.
Here in FR the buck stops at your desk. It’s good to hear you manage to stay principled and (presumably!) calm in spite of the situation we face in 2012.


54 posted on 08/11/2012 5:11:25 PM PDT by Lady Lucky ( 'Better than the worst' is not the same as 'good.')
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To: RaisingCain

“If more conservatives felt like Jim Robinson, we wouldn’t have these frauds and usurpers begging for our adoration and votes.”

We had/have a primary season. Our people did not come out on top like I or you would have liked. There are only two viable candidates left standing. I will choose Mitt because I don’t want our country to go down the same road a Greece.


55 posted on 08/11/2012 5:11:54 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t much care about Romney being a Mormon.
Mormons may not be my bag, but at least he isn’t a Muslim like Obama.

I don’t like Romney at all and didn’t vote for him in the primary, if there was anyone else out there with a chance of winning they would have my vote.

There is no one.

It’s Obama or Romney. I choose to get rid of a man who hates me, hates my wife and family, and is turning our country into a debt ridden , haven for perverts, and ne’er do wells who refuse to work.

Yes I will vote for Romney ,I have no choice.


56 posted on 08/11/2012 5:12:01 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: VRWC For Truth

Also, Robert Bork is on Mitt’s advisory team on judicial appointments, and that’s, hopefully, a good thing. Right?


58 posted on 08/11/2012 5:12:29 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Moonmad27

I agree about Mormonism, however, that will be determined when they stand before God. In the meantime, I do not see them as ANY threat to the USA whereas I see Athiest/Islamists as a deadly threat. I would vote for my cat over Zero, and I will campaign for Romney-Ryan.


59 posted on 08/11/2012 5:12:40 PM PDT by linton59 (. bitter,typical,gun-toting,Bible thumping, indigenous, disinfranchised, 1 of the chattering classes)
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To: Jim Robinson

Of course Mormonisn is a hustle. Romney and Reid calling each other liars and tax cheats shows how much Mormonism means to them.

Mormonism is not going to rule America if Romney gets elected.

The alternative is Obama. We have to hold our nose and support Romney, he’s the only game in town that can save us from the liberal ruling class that is getting more entrenched in DC bureaucracy every day.


60 posted on 08/11/2012 5:13:09 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Magic Fingers

Only a RINO would say that


61 posted on 08/11/2012 5:13:23 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: RaisingCain

Being in Virginia, a swing state, I have no choice but Romney solely for economic issues. I don’t think there is much comparison in that category even considering RomneyCare.


62 posted on 08/11/2012 5:13:34 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: SunTzuWu

I tried to send FR a little money but it didn’t go through
now I know why.


63 posted on 08/11/2012 5:14:28 PM PDT by WKB (After 4 years I am ready from a little R and R!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with everything you say, but I’m still voting against obastard. Mittens sucks. Obastard sucks more. Won’t otherwise contribute to or support mittens.

Hope that doesn’t bring a zot.


64 posted on 08/11/2012 5:14:53 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m hoping Romney and Ryan support and fundraise so vigorously for conservative House and Senate candidates that many conservatives will grudgingly vote for them.
After all, if we have the House we have the key anyway.

And that’s the ONLY thing he can do for conservatives before the election to change minds.
Whatever he may say just isn’t going to make much difference.


65 posted on 08/11/2012 5:15:03 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The title says it all, Jim.


66 posted on 08/11/2012 5:15:33 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: Jim Robinson
I've voted in ten consecutive Presidential elections,every one for which I was legally qualified.I'm proud to say that every single vote I've cast was for a candidate who received at least 100 Electoral votes.Some of those candidates received the *majority* of the Electoral votes,some didn't.Not a single one of the candidates I voted for was,IMO,perfect.Most of them weren't even close.But each one was at least somewhat superior,and most were substantially superior,to their Rat opponent.Being a lifelong Massachusetts resident and understanding Massachusetts politics far,far better than most Freepers,I know that Romney,although quite imperfect,will be at least a somewhat better,and very possibly much better,in his first term than will Osama Obama in his second.As a result,

I'M STILL VOTING FOR ROMNEY!!!


67 posted on 08/11/2012 5:15:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: Jim Robinson; trisham; xzins; P-Marlowe
I'm with you Jim.

I like Ryan and if he were on top of the ticket or the running mate of a genuine conservative I would happily support the ticket.

Myth is using Ryan to shore up conservative support, but he will silence Ryan if they win.

As for Mormonism, just wait for the networks to run all sorts of "special reports" about the history of Mormonism and what they believe, these programs will start airing as soon as the nomination is official. As best I can tell, Mormonism is a lot like Scientology, they just don't have movie stars.

68 posted on 08/11/2012 5:15:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Jim Robinson and the core of his followers on Free Republic are becoming the Conservative version of the Communist Party of the USA (CPUSA). Polar opposites on political philosophy to be sure, but birds of a feather when it comes pig headed understanding of the path to political power.

The CPUSA is completely irrelevant when it comes to political power, in part because they routinely purged any and all who were not ideologically pure in every way. They drove away many who agreed with their general views of politics and were willing to help them gain political power. They were a complete failure.

But, the Barack Obamas, David Alexrods, and Valarie Jarretts of their world took another course. They stayed true to their core political beliefs, but they worked within our political system to seize control of one of the two political parties in this country that count. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They run the country and daily act in defiance of the US Congress and the people. They are in power and they are abusing it as only good communists are wont to do. So, who’s the better communist: the losers of the CPUSA or Obama and his ilk?

Don’t be a loser.


69 posted on 08/11/2012 5:15:58 PM PDT by centurion316 ( I)
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To: Jim Robinson

Got a call yesterday from MA. The guy identified himself and asked if I would be willing to contribute $200 to the Romney campaign.

“No ;’#$ing way”, I told him. “I will promise you one thing though, I will hold my nose and vote for your man. I think we are stumbling into another McCain moment where we will have to choose between the lesser of two evils.”

I promised to send him 10% of what he asked. He thanked me and even called me ‘Sir’.


70 posted on 08/11/2012 5:16:03 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Domestic Church

Ryan is only 42. After 2 terms as VP, and with his fiscal remedies having gotten the country back on track, he’ll be a sure bet for POTUS. I hope I live to see it.


71 posted on 08/11/2012 5:17:28 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: RepoGirl
The former freeper, Repogirl.

Cool.

So STFU, GTFO and take your fail with you.

By the way, your dry cleaners are complaining about having to pre-soak all of your pants.

72 posted on 08/11/2012 5:18:11 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: woofie

LOL, there you go.


73 posted on 08/11/2012 5:18:21 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: SunTzuWu

Bingo..........


74 posted on 08/11/2012 5:19:00 PM PDT by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: RepoGirl
You Sir, quite simply, are a horse's ass [...] You (and your butt-kissing little sycophants) [...] you're as much of a mental cripple as you are a physical one.


75 posted on 08/11/2012 5:19:14 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Parley Baer

“We had/have a primary season. Our people did not come out on top like I or you would have liked. There are only two viable candidates left standing. I will choose Mitt because I don’t want our country to go down the same road a Greece.”


Because the GOPe conspired to get their guy, because the primary system is BS and is designed to prefer moderates, and Mittens had millions of dollars to lie about himself and others all throughout the campaign.

Sorry, but I will not reward Liars with my vote.


76 posted on 08/11/2012 5:19:14 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Jim Robinson

No disagreement here JR. I can’t vote for Mitt Rimney any more than I can vote for Barry Obozo.


77 posted on 08/11/2012 5:20:21 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: InterceptPoint
Ryan will generate the President's budget and submit it to the House for Rubber Stamping. Trust me. That's the way it will be.

No, that's how you want it to be. Romney could and would submit his own budget and there isn't a damned thing that Ryan could say or do about it. I've never understood the emphasis that some place on the vice presidency. The veep carries out the policies of the president, not the other way around.

78 posted on 08/11/2012 5:20:38 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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79 posted on 08/11/2012 5:20:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Hoefling will be getting my vote this November. Everyone else of his quality decided not to run, for whatever reasons, but with TH running, I will not have to leave the voting booth with my head bowed in shame.


80 posted on 08/11/2012 5:20:51 PM PDT by Lady Lucky ( 'Better than the worst' is not the same as 'good.')
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To: Moonmad27

“But no matter what i think of Mitt, I despise Zero and will vote for any Republican nominee before I help Zero get another 4 years by sitting it out or voting for a third party nobody.”

Me, too. I have my personal opinions about Mormons (summed up as one of the greatest hoaxes of the 19th century). I also do not like Romney. But I’m voting AGAINST 0bama. That means no loser/spoiler 3rd party candidate, too. I’m keeping religion out of this. (By the way, how many other sinners have we elected to the office of the President since 1789? ....2012 won’t be a first or a last...a fate we all share.) It’s called POLITICS not Faith and they don’t mix well.


81 posted on 08/11/2012 5:21:04 PM PDT by TrueFact
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To: WalterSkinner

Amen to that.

I’m just glad some here see that it’s not just a drolling, “I HATE OBAMA” that should drive your vote. It is the future of Conservatism itself. And that future will END with Romney.

No Romney, no way. The Ryan pick? It was just to get some of you to the polls.


83 posted on 08/11/2012 5:21:50 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RepoGirl
Oh my, pot calling kettle ...’you know’.... Romney is ‘JesusChrist’, dumber than the dumbest things I have yet to read. Your filth language is NOT helping the Romney campaign.
84 posted on 08/11/2012 5:22:04 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: RepoGirl
Your ad hominem are so typical of Willard "Myth" Romney
and his Team of BAckstabbers (of Conservatives, women and the handicapped, especially).

Vicious hyperliberal Romney is exactly like Obama on many issues,
ranging from judges nominated, to TARP support,
to thinking they are deities.

Mr. RomneyCARE matches Obama in Constitution breaking.

Furthermore, for your foul-mouthed RomneyBOT info (like you care anyway)
Mr. RomneyCARE EXCEEDS Obama’s in hyperliberality and statism
in that Mr. RomneyCARE personally installed both ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE
AND gay marriage.

Based on his PAST BEHAVIOR, Mr. RomneyCARE
is far to the left of both Obama
and the late Ted Kennedy and anyone else the DNC might put out..


85 posted on 08/11/2012 5:22:23 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: libdestroyer
I used to be for Goode but you’re right. Hoefling matches up with most of us conservatives. Goode is isolationist like Ron Paul and its a shame.

Hoefling is a hypocrite on spending. He says he wants to cut it, but then doesn't want to touch the massive waste called the War in Afghanistan. If you're not serious about across the board spending cuts, then you're not serious - period. Hoefling isn't serious.

86 posted on 08/11/2012 5:22:23 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Jim Robinson

The light of sanity shines through again.


87 posted on 08/11/2012 5:23:20 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: WXRGina

Right-on PING!


88 posted on 08/11/2012 5:23:56 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: RepoGirl

That’s the way to keep it classy... adios.


89 posted on 08/11/2012 5:24:04 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I understand. I fully support your right- & everyone’s, to speak their mind & vote as their conscience requires. As much as I dislike Romney (I like Paul Ryan a LOT!), I fear what will become of our country under 4 more years of 0bama much, much more. I abhor all that’s happened, not just for the past 4 years, but resulted from the democrats’ control of Congress from 2006 to 2010.

I hope our moderators relent. FREE Republic lives up to it’s name.

God Bless you, Jim, & everyone at Free Republic!


90 posted on 08/11/2012 5:24:04 PM PDT by KGeorge (R2- now THAT, I like!)
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To: digital-olive

“Please don’t let this election tear us apart everyone, we are all on the same team even if we disagree here and there.”

Yea, good luck with that. These so called “conservatives” right here at FR would rather say “I told you so” after another Obama victory than get together to defeat the bastard before it happens. Like a frigging Mormom has ever encroached on your lifestyle or even had the power to do so?

And, no, we are not all on the same team. The single issue voters are killing us. Take note right here on FR.


91 posted on 08/11/2012 5:24:31 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: centurion316

That’s really the problem you don’t see. This battle is bigger than Barack Obama, but the scumbags in the GOPe want you to believe it is. The battle is with the IDEOLOGY that empowers Obama and so many others, including within the GOPe itself. Mittens is merely the Republican version of the same progressive ideology. IOW, we lost this battle when Mittens secured his path to the nomination.

What will happen with Mittens is 4 years of degenerate RINO control, followed up with another possible 4 years of degenerate RINO control, to be followed up with degenerate DemonRat control. Because, let’s face it, Romney is a big government statist who is just going to manage the decline. Except now the Great Economic Collapse that is coming is going to fall on OUR doorstep instead of the socialists. I won’t vote for Obama, but I sure as hell hope Mittens loses and we have strong conservatives to oppose him in Congress. The short term pain is better than long term mediocrity and eventual death.


92 posted on 08/11/2012 5:24:31 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RepoGirl

Aren’t you a bit late for softball practice?

Surely that flannel shirt is dry by now.


93 posted on 08/11/2012 5:24:31 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: RepoGirl

You wasted our time with that?


94 posted on 08/11/2012 5:25:06 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, I am NOT with you on this issue, brother.

Mormons are not Christians; they believe in a false “prophet” that Jesus warned us about. I agree.

That said, I have to choose between a wannabe anti-Christ who will be a lame duck pResident who will finish his work destroying this once great country of ours and a Mormon. I will vote for mitt and then puke my guts out and take a bleach shower afterwards, but I will.

A conservative voter staying home is voting for that POS who currently occupies OUR White House illegally. Are you going to “vote” for IT by not voting and advocate that freepers do the same? Then I am disappointed in you, Jim.

Signed,
A future bannie. So be it but I had to speak my mind.


95 posted on 08/11/2012 5:25:29 PM PDT by Chong
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To: Jim Robinson

The question must be, are you are much happier having an Obama administration with Democrats in control of our demise then choking down your disagreement with Romney and the few positions that you have a problem with and slowing it from happening in your lifetime.


96 posted on 08/11/2012 5:26:14 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sometimes (oft-times) things don’t go exactly the way you want. You make do with the cards you were dealt. In this case, we failed to get a better pick for Prez. So we make do, and meanwhile stay focused on the primaries for future races. Eventually we will win, if we don’t feel defeated.


97 posted on 08/11/2012 5:26:22 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
The VP Office really means nothing except for a few days after the pick is announced

I would venture to guess that Dick Cheney would laugh at your comment.

Paul Ryan will serve to enact a huge portion of what conservatives have been working toward. Ryan's public appearances and his relationships with Congress will be invaluable.

Gov. Romney picked a true conservative and one of the most qualified out there. It would be folly not to vote in favor of Ryan's blueprint which will be largely enacted after they get elected. Under Obama, millions would suffer greviously. I have no problem voting for the GOP ticket.

98 posted on 08/11/2012 5:26:34 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Magic Fingers

When Dick Cheney became a Rino I knew we were in trouble


99 posted on 08/11/2012 5:26:44 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: centurion316
The CPUSA is completely irrelevant when it comes to political power, in part because they routinely purged any and all who were not ideologically pure in every way. They drove away many who agreed with their general views of politics and were willing to help them gain political power. They were a complete failure.

Usually people do not waste their time, let alone their supposed self perceived intellect on irrelevancy, but yet you took the time to prove otherwise.

100 posted on 08/11/2012 5:26:44 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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