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To: Elsie

What a sour puss Jim is being...cannot even take Romney’s word that he sees abortion is wrong now and has for some time. holding it against him still!


4,162 posted on 08/15/2012 9:39:33 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
......cannot even take Romney’s word that he sees abortion is wrong NOW and has for some time. holding it against him still!

Well golly!

That IS a problem!!

One would think a WORTHY Mormon would have NEVER held any OTHER view!


I wonder what MORMONism says about it???


 
 
...these exceptions do not justify abortion automatically.
It “should be considered only after the persons responsible have consulted with their bishops and received divine confirmation through prayer.” 
...Is there any hope for the person who has participated in the act of abortion? Is there any hope for those who have so sinned and who now suffer heartbreak? The answer is yes!
 ( https://itsaboutlove.org/ial/ct/eng/site/pregnant/what-are-my-options/abortion/the-lds-perspective/ )
 
Oh?  But what about:
 
...abortion is akin to murder... ( http://latterdaycommentary.com/2012/04/21/does-a-fetus-have-a-right-to-life/ )...
 
...and we KNOW the MORMON postion on Jesus' abilities to forgive the sin of MURDER!

4,167 posted on 08/15/2012 9:47:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fabian; Deb; Elsie; All
What a sour puss Jim is being...cannot even take Romney’s word that he sees abortion is wrong now and has for some time. holding it against him still!

Let's say you, Fabian, converted to "pro-life" in November.

Then the following spring, you say you are "absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice" -- which is what Romney did May of 2005.

So, of course, Romney has said 'abortion is wrong for some time now' -- didn't stop him from commenting positively upon committing to pro-abortionism, did it?

For documentation, see: Post #2...Romney's pro-abort words & actions since becoming "pro-life"

So, did Romney "part ways" with his pro-abortionism after May of 2005?

No. The following year, he ensured that a Planned Parenthood rep would not be removed as a permanent rep of the oversight board of RomneyCare. (Romney could have passed RomneyCare -- and still vetoed portions of it...which he actually did veto portions of it)

On top of that, some of those 7% of uninsured that RomneyCare covered -- women who chose abortions beyond what MA taxpayers paid for already (beyond rape & incest) -- sacrificed their offspring with RomneyCare dollars and RomneyCare coverage.

Do you think that's a "pro-life" thing to do? (If so, why don't you just walk up & down your neighborhood each Saturday, and offer to pay for an abortion each week...Yes, that will make you a true monster in the eyes of the pre-born, but, hey, at least you'll finally be consistent with your Romney rhretoric)

Oh, and btw, RomneyCare went from $50 abortions to total taxpayer-funded abortions in certain cases. (Way to go, Mitt...leaving your "pro-life" mark upon the carcasses of pre-borns! /sarc )

Then Mitt ran for POTUS in '07...you'd think he would have gotten his alleged "pro-life" rhetoric down pat by December of that year...but no:

Katie Couric was interviewing him that first week of December...Mitt started off sounding quite "pro-life," discussing the adoptability of embryos (was probably referencing the Snowflake adoption process).

He said: "...surplus embryos...Those embryos, I hope, could be available for adoption for people who would like to adopt embryos."

Then he added: "But if a parent decides they would want to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable. It should not be made against the law."

(Link above has original source for these CBS quotes -- program was called, "Candidates Reveal Their Biggest Mistakes")

Again, Fabian, please show us how "consistent" you are with Romney rhetoric. If you're a parent, all you have to do is "donate" one of your kids for "purposes of research."

Besides being a monster parent, at least then you and Deb can both keep your illusions going that you both -- and Mitt -- are all "firmly" "pro-life."

You see, Fabian, if you -- or Deb -- won't under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES even pay for abortions in your own neighborhood; and if you won't donate one of your kids to "research"...because you deem that "highly unethical" (as in "monster" ethics), then perhaps you realize why we consider Mitt Romney to be a "monster" candidate.

Remember...all of the above has taken place SINCE Mitt Romney declared his so-called "PRO-LIFE conversion" (November 2004).

Way to give Romney a "free pass" on all of the above Romney supporters & many pro-life & pro-family groups...You've shown us all your true underbelly.

4,238 posted on 08/16/2012 9:36:32 AM PDT by Colofornian
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