Sheriff Joe Now Investigating Obama Alias Harry Bounel: Obama Mama In WA In 1961 (Arpaio)

BirtherReport.com ^ | February 25, 2013 | Al Hendershot

[Seizethecarp]

Today, I had a conversation with an investigator from the Cold Case Posse in AZ. We talked and I expanded on several dossiers filled with evidence for over an hour. They asked for all of my relevant information on Obama, the Harry Bounel alias evidence, and the dossiers I completed on Stanley Ann Dunham, her parents, and Michelle Obama as well. They have it all. BTW they also say that it looks like my information cannot be disproved and will be useful.

I have proof, definitive proof that Stanley Ann Dunham was in WA state in "1961" as per the issuance of a SSN numident in her name with the SSN 535-40-8522. There is no way that she was in HI and I have proof because in the fall she was in college in WA, not HI.

[Seizethecarp]

chicken head:

When Fred Nerks (FN) refers to Anna, he imagines (with no documentation) a woman who is NOT Stanley Ann Dunham.

FN insinuates that Anna is an Asian woman either in the party picture named Anne (who was actually Japanese according to a Cambodian classmate) or the Asian woman in the picture on the dock. Pictures posted by FN up-thread.

FN’s Anna has a baby who grows up to be “the darker boy” and the becomes Roman Obama and goes to university in the USSR.

FN’s Anna takes the name Anna S. Obama in time to appear at the same address in Polk with Toutonghi in Seattle in early 1961, although there is no witness or documentary evidence of any marriage or even a relationship with an Anna who is not Stanley Ann, and no documentation of any birth of a son to her named BHO II who is NOT the future POTUS.

FN’s Anna supposedly enrolled at UH in the fall of 1960 and FN now says that according to Polk she lived at the same address in the newspaper birth announcements where Madelyn and Stanley Armour Dunham were living and where the INS FOIA docs say a pregnant Stanley Ann was also living in 1961 prior to going to Seattle.

FN’s Anna must have been in third trimester of pregnancy in the fall of 1960 while at UH because FN relies SOLELY on Mary Toutonghi’s weak, aged memory of the age of her daughter being 18 months to place FN’s Anna S. Obama and her newborn in Seattle in “very early 1961.”

Wouldn’t FN’s Anna, a pregnant student and supposed wife of BHO Sr. have been documented or noticed in late 1960 when he was skirt-chasing? UH officials didn’t report any such goings on unto April 1961 specifically in reference to Stanley Ann.

For FN’s narrative to work (all part of the Mal-Val narrative, of course desperately trying to create a narrative that will lead to Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf being Barry’s real parents) when interviewed in 2009 Mary Toutonghi must have failed to ID President Barry’s mom as this alternate Anna, but incorrectly Mary affirms that Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was the mother of the baby Barack that she did babysitting for. Mary fails to see that Stanley Ann is NOT FN’s Anna even though Stanley Ann’s picture has been all over the media.

I expect that most FReepers will go with the extensive document trail establishing and corroborating that Mary Toutonghi’s memory of her child’s age was wrong and that there is only ONE Anna/Ann Obama and that is Stanley Ann Dunham Obama. Stanley Ann (experimenting with going by the name Anna) and future POTUS Barry (not baby Roman) were the pair in Seattle with Mary Toutonghi in early 1962.

Stanley Ann’s whereabouts are unaccounted for between Feb 2, 1961 and her showing up in WA in late August. That is when it is possible that she could easily have gone to Kenya and then come back. While BHO Sr. was penniless, his benefactors Mboya and the missionaries had deep pockets and were invested in his success possibly to the extent of financially hiding Stanley Ann away in Kenya to protect his future in Kenya.

Note that the INS FOIA docs state (April 1961?) that in February of 1961, BHO Sr. married a coed named Ann S. Dunham that he got pregnant and that the coed is living with her parents, is considering putting the baby up for adoption with the Salvation Army and is intending to go to WA to university.

[Fred Nerks]

OK, I’ve reached my threshhold. Your stupidity is only exceeded by your malice.
Any freeper who wants to ask questions via private mail, be my guest.
Anyone who thinks I haven’t tried to do my best, bring up my IN FORUM record for the last two years and judge for yourselves.

[edge919]

With debunked and irrelevant material, jackass.

[little jeremiah]

All of this is very interesting, as always.

I am thinking that since the MSM made him, if they so decide, they can easily unmake him.

Many of them have to know or suspect all kinds of things, and can find out if they want. Some of them may be starting to look for info, right now.

Did you see this, maybe the worm might be turning:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2992841/posts?page=23#23

Second-Term Blues: Is Obama’s free ride over?

Comment 23 by Liz (snipped it)

Mrs O At Oscars—a “Creepy South American totalitarian-lite vibe.” Did she really belong there?

NYPost quotes Walter Kirn of the liberal journal, The New Republic: seeing Mrs O preening before Hollywood, lavishly gowned, replete with jewels, and, of all things, military guards, was a “Creepy South American totalitarian-lite vibe....”

NY Post opined: “Even President Ronald Reagan never busted in live on the Oscars, and Reagan was an actual movie star, academy member, and former president of the Screen Actors Guild. (Reagan taped a non-self-aggrandizing “enjoy the show” welcome for the March 30, 1981, Oscars — which had to be delayed because he was shot that very day.)” (EXCERPT—NYP Oscar Review 2/26)

[Fred Nerks]

And all you have is two girls who have somewhat small canine teeth, and from that you assume it has to be the same girl. Pathetic.

[Seizethecarp]

“Was it the same Barack Hussein Obama with whom Malik says he remembers playing with when they were boys? The same Barack Hussein Obama who Malik says taught school in Uganda?”

All:

Malik was best man in Barry’s wedding so I think he would know who his father’s one and only documented, corroborated namesake is.

IMO it is extremely poor and misleading researching to take as true a bunch of single-sourced, hearsay, one-off comments, such as Malik’s reported by newspapers (who always get something wrong in my experience) or Mary Toutonghi’s memory of her baby’s age in months just to spin a favored narrative appearing to be motivated solely to fulfill the Mal-Val narrative requirement that Malcolm X be Barry’s dad and that Valerie Sarruf be his mom: therefore, a priori, Stanley Ann cannot be Barry’s mom.

So far on this thread:

In Fred Nerks’ (FN’s) narrative Mary Toutonghi must have failed to recognize that the Anna in Seattle wasn’t Stanley Ann but was an Asian woman and also that Mary failed to recognize that the baby Barack she knew was not the baby we have all become very familiar with but actually baby Roman Obama, the “dark child.”

FN claims that the UW transcript for SADO showing her in the apartment bldg. with Toutonghi is forged even though WND published it and UW hasn’t sued WND and not a singe UW administrator or alum (except the anonymous FReeper David) says it is fake. Note that the UH registar affirms SADO’s courses at UW but FN has previously declared the UH registrar’s transcript and summary to be fraudulent...while offering zero evidence at all for his alternative Asian Anna.

FN has put up two pictures of Asian women near BHO Sr. (party and dock), one of them ID’d as an Anne (who has a Japanese last name). FN has invited FReepers to assume that one of them is an alternate Anna in Seattle in early 1961 based on nothing that I have seen, but at the same time claiming he never said Anna in Seattle was Asian. Note that Roman Obama doesn’t look at all Asian or mixed race.

FN insinuates that Gramma Sarah can’t tell the difference between POTUS Barry and Roman Obama and must be covering up a baby swap.

FN insinuates that Malik’s off-hand comments support the Mal-Val narrative of Roman Obama being first in Seattle with his Asian mom Anna and then somehow spirited to Kenya at about the same time that baby Barry is swapped into HI into Stanley Ann’s custody as a nanny/adoptive mother.

FN claims that Roman Obama, the “dark child” son of Asian Anna in Seattle was somehow posed in a picture with baby “Zero” who he overtly asserts is POTUS Barry in around 1964 (actually documented to be Mark and David in around 1970). FN endlessly posts pictures of David Obama and Baby POTUS Barry and insists that they are the same person based on nothing but resemblance.

FN provides NO coherent narrative that can place Roman Obama and young POTUS Barry together in the same place for these pictures FN claims were taken of them together and with BHO Sr. and Ruth Baker (actually in Kenya).

FN’s narrative requires that despite the INS FOIA docs, birth announcements and Polk registry placing Stanley Ann and POTUS Barry in the same home with Madelyn and Stanley Armour, the Dunham grandparents never laid eyes on POTUS Barry until he came to HI at about age three.

FN insinuates that Madelyn and Stanley Armour pretended that POTUS Barry was their grandchild starting at around age 3 and persisted right up to Madelyn leaving Barry $0.5 million in her will!

Frankly, I think there are some group sanity issues here because FN has persuaded several FReepers that this all makes sense and that Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf are Barry’s mom and dad!

[Fred Nerks]

She might have been the woman in the dark glasses at the MX funeral, she probably wrote the eulogy printed under the name Jo Ann Newman, she taught him the Shakespeare he quoted in his speech at the Oxford Union, she's a relative of the baby-sitter by marriage...and as for the rest of the story, someone else will have to tell you. Might as well learn to love your President, because he's planning to be a permanent fixture, and freepers like YOU are here to help make it happen.

[little jeremiah]

Great remarks, FN. WildH - I’ve been trying to read as much as I can about this topic since it first popped up on FR. Some of what was presented by various posters turned out to be dead ends (leaving aside the on-purpose deceit), difficult to follow or fathom, contorted, hints, teeny bits and pieces, and so on. And also - much was and is been posted has been tantalizing, shed bits and piece of light on dark corners, answers that lead to more questions; but one of the best things IMHO that this reserach has shown, is that just about every single thing in “BHO”s life as presented to the public is Just Plain Fake.

It’s a lot easier to begin to see wha the truth is, once the lies - false assumptions based on the myth - are clean swept away.

What really gelled it for me was the entire “Auntie” thread. If you have not read it start to finish, you owe it to yourself to do so. If you read it a long time ago, it’s worth reading again.

It’s clear by the end of the thread that SAD is not his mother. I already realized before that, that the Kenyan 0bama could not be the father.

So...it’s always good to realize what you DON’T know first. Clean slate and all that.

Auntie thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts

[Fred Nerks]

That was the thread on which I picked up the virus which attacked my harddrive and left me with a black screen and nothing else? How well I remember...that’s why so many images are missing.
Hey, that was December 2012. Notice how polite and helpful everyone used to be? The good old days.

[little jeremiah]

Interesing - yes, the offfical “debunkers” and “widl goose chasers” are pretty shrill.

I wonder if the virus was in connection with the content of the thread. A lot of light got shone on dark corners.

People who’ve chosed the dark side hate the light of truth.

[Fred Nerks]

Flak. Target. Not to worry, I think I’ve done all I can, it’s time for someone else to take a peak into Pandora’s Box. If they never raise the lid because they are too afraid, we’ll just have to leave it to history to sort out.

[edge919]

Dude, you’re destroying your own claims by showing pictures of a woman with the same nose and forehead (notice the width between the eyebrows), cheeks and wavy hair. And dental records are a compelling way to identify people. That’s not a new revelation. Thanks for helping prove my point.

[Fred Nerks]

Dental records are based on DENTAL WORK carried out - not on if canines are of a similar size in two different bodies. Keep it up, all you are doing is showing your obot bias.

TROLL.

[little jeremiah]

Earlier tonight I read the exchanges between you and Fred.

Just what I was thinking a few hours ago - “dental RECORDS”???

Surely you aren’t serious. If you have X rays and other official Dentist’s records of both women’s teeth and they’re exactly the same; please - out with the facts! Let’s all see the “dental records”.

It’s been made obviously obvious that the porno model is not SAD, quite some time ago. Phtos from 1958 - SAD in high school - totally different chin, different brow line, etc. And if you make the claim that SAD had chin reduction surgery you know you’ll be laughed at so you ignore that huge discrepancy!

With your odd clinging to the “SAD was a porno model” theory invented or at least promoted by a mockumentary leftist liar, one might wonder (if one was interested enough) about your motive.

[Todd Rodriguez]

“Does anybody think that Barack Obama would permit any evidence of a Certificate of Loss of Nationality or an Indonesian adoption to still exist anywhere on this planet?”

OBOTS and ConcernedFreepers are working night and day to ensure any civil suit filed on Obama’s eligibility does not make it to discovery. If Obama scrubbed the files, then OBOTS and ConcernedFreepers would demand discovery to prove the files don’t exist.

For example, Obama’s Form-SS5, Application for SSN, has the Catholic Social Services of Connecticut return address with the name of his case manager on it. How could Obama explain that since Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was known as one of two contractors to manage foreign national minors unaccompanied by an adult arriving at a Port of Entry?

It’s better for Obama if OBOTS and ConcernedFreepers maintain the narrative Obama has been using a stolen SSN since 1977, became a state senator, became a U.S. Senator, and then President and the SSA never caught the fact he was using a stolen SSN for over 30 years.

[bluecat6]

CH,

There are some disagreements around here.

Given the lack of data points and number of forged data points a lot of equations that fit the possibly true data points are almost infinite.

One thing that seems to fail is ‘born in Kenya’. At least born in Kenya anywhere near as described.

The datapoints that go against this include:

1. No sign of an actual relationship between SAD and BHO.
2. Pure logistics. Travel in 1961 was not what it is today. Kenya to Hawaii was a multi-day, multi-hop trip no matter how you did it. Planes did not fly halfway around the globe like they do today. the 707 was barely in service and it had to stop a lot.
3. There is simply no sign BHO every went to Kenya during the needed timeframe. His records are pretty open, though one can never assume they are 100% accurate or complete. But what is there shows no sign of him making a trip to Kenya with his ‘wife’.
4. The ‘marriage’ of SAD and BHO has never been documented. No marriage licence, no announcment. Nothing. It IS documented in the ‘divorce’. But to have a divorce you have to have a marriage so the marriage then has a paper trail. And with that faux marriage a child now has a name. Using a faux divorce to create a faux marriage that never really happened is a well known illegal immigration tactic. That may have been done here to give the multi-racial child a legitimate name and possibly legitimize his citizenship.

I have a hard time telling someone what to believe or not believe given the dearth of facts. But the born in Kenya story seems to fail scrutiny. Personally I believe it is kept alive by shills to detract from facts of the time and also detract from the fact that the Indonesian connection is a serious citizenship problem.

BHO had rights to Kenyan citizenship when his father became a citizen of that upon its independence. Given that is likely that BHO Sr. had something to do with the ‘re-baselining’ of Obama II’s paperwork in 1971 in Hawaii it is possible Obama II acquired full Kenyan citizenship then - and then adopted Kenya as his ‘home country’.

Of course BHO II had rights to British citizenship upon his birth since his namesake, legal father was actually British at the time of birth. There is no record of British form RL being filed. So BHO II could claim British citizenship today. But since he gave the Queen a chintzy iPOD and gave away British nuclear sub naval secrets to the Russians that may not be a good move.

I will leave you with this. To this day hardly anything before 1972 is a given and can be accepted without debate.

[chicken head]

yes there is proof they were married- the allafrican article was written in 04, and it CLEARLY shows BO sr was married to SAD..

The marriage later broke up after Anna’s father opposed it, according to Mama Sarah.

“Anna’s father was furious about the marriage and threatened to have Obama Snr expelled from the university. Our son sent us letters, pleading that we intervene to save the marriage,” remembers Sarah.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html?page=4

Now, you can see BO sr sending a letter to sarah to “Intervene” to save the marriage— (a women living in a grass hut with no communication and goat trails to this village) — the only way for sarah to “Intervene” in the marriage is because stanley ann dunham was living in that village and was there..how else could she intervene?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/intervene

[chicken head]

Now, when he ask sarah to “Intervene”, that also means a 3rd party is involved — sounds like someone is coming there to start trouble.. my guess is stanley armour was coming there to retrieve ann(a) and wanted sarah to try to stop it or get between it or save it..

[bluecat6]

After 5 years of looking at this I know there is some ‘supporting evidence’. If you accept it at face value as fact it can certainly indicate - a-ha, the smoking gun. But there is no single smoking gun. And at this point there is a lot of planted evidence to cause distraction and confusion.

The lies around this woman are many. She was a christian according to the MSM in 2008. They we find out she is hard-core Muslim. She seems to be a tool to be used in the matter.

As my list above indicates - a trip to Kenya by BHO Sr. is nowhere to be found. SADs timeline is very hidden here but his is less so. This also relies on the debunked ‘happy married couple’ storyline. It is just not there. In fact if anything SAD was kept in Washington UNTIL BHO was gone.

I will share my game of CLUE guess here for discussion so you know where my head is on this. This is not a claim that scenario did in fact happen. It is a only a guess that seems to match the very known factual data points.

Others can debate or debunk if they see fit...and I am sure they will...

The Dunham family was either a CIA family that was assigned to keep tabs on known communitist who would be trying steal military secrets from Boeing. The family was in Kasnas when Boeing was building WWII bombers - specifically the high tech B-29 and later the initial B-52s. B-52 manufacturing later moved to Seattle. And bingo the Dunham family shows up there with apparent ‘ties’ to the local known communist figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress

In 1962 production of the Buff (B-52)stopped in Seattle. For the Dunhams - mission over. They served their country well in keeping the red hoard from stealing our military secrets. Now what? Use that counter communist skill at a well-known communist hotspot - Hawaii. Set mom up with a nice bank job and dad (the ‘furniture salesmen’) can keep tabs on the local communist by hanging out with them at bars and other places.

For fun lets say Stanley Dunham cohorts with Frank Marshall Davis. Lets say that FMD figures out the role of the the Dunham family. Lets say in the world of spying and counter spying FMD figures the best way to role the Dunham family is to impregnate their daughter. Later he can wright about it in 1968 in his book.

When the Dunhams figure out a) she’s pregnant and/or b) who the father is they have to send her back stateside. They have to remover her from the situation. Are they double agents? Are they leveraged assets for FMD now? Who knows. But their daughter has to be sent away.

If they did not know they had a multi-racial grandchild on the way they did when the birth occurred - likely in WA or Canada. Obviously if they were assets for the US government spy complex they could not just say - well our target got our daughter pregnant. But after, the high profile black visitor from Kenya leaves the island for Harvard they can bring her back and claim her child was his. Its a plausible story and ties to a man who will likely never return to the island - Barack Obama. If US intelligence community was aware of the situation and was helping the Dunhams with their ‘multi-racial grandbaby situation’ doing all of this would be a simple domestic operation. Now eventually Obama is aware of his wife and child in Hawaii and uses them on his INS paperwork to try to stay in the US.

So Obama leaves, SAD comes back from stateside. Files for ‘divorce’. Sends papers to Obama. He never answers them. He may not even know what is going on! And then a judge does a one-way divorce basically. And now we have ‘Barack Obama II’ for the very first time.

Through this maybe SAD is now part of the Dunham family trade of keeping tabs on foreign spies or may she just likes foreigners and not the ‘blond crew cut boys’. But somehow she get involved with Lolo - an older man being trained in the US to be an asset when the communists are tossed from Indonesia. Indonesia goes through horrific massacres and murders in the mid-60s. Eventually the US-backed faction takes control. Lolo rolls in with his family from the US. All is good. He is on the fast track in Indonesia, he has a pretty US wife and she has a multi-racial child that he can claim as his without much questions. After all Obama was only 3 years when they go married. Heck at that age he could claim Obama as his biological child in Indonesia.

But then something happens. Someone figures out that Obama is not Lolo’s child or that he is American or that he the biological child of a communist. And remember the communist and non-communist were killing each over frequently in Indonesia during this period. Or maybe Obama and Lolo did not get along and Lolo did not want him as ‘his child’ anymore. In any case Obama leaves Indonesia. Apparently without his ‘parents’ (SAD and Lolo). But who would step-in, who would help in such a situation? Two possibilities - Frank Marshall Davis or the US intelligence agencies. One of these two entities likely ‘extracted’ Obama from Indonesia. In either case - you have a ‘refugee child’ who is subject to certain danger in his ‘home country’ of Indonesia. From here Sven’s story line takes root since the basic question is ‘what do you do with a parent-less foreign child’ in the US?

Since Obama senior is the legal and legally accepted biological father his presence is needed in 1971 to undo the adoption of Lolo Soetoro and to ensure the ‘rebaseline’ of Obama II’s past is done officially.

This is why it is hard to accept the facts of anything before 1972. In December of 1971 and early January 1972 Obama II’s official, state accepted past was likely completely rebuilt in the records. Hence why no one in Hawaii will really vouch for the events of 1961. If they know that there are sealed documents, adoptions, reversed adoptions, etc. then the real history may not be when the documents say - LEGALLY. If the court ordered up a whole new history on the child we know of BHO II the real past may never show up in legal documents.

So there it is. It is a broad sweep at this ongoing game of ClUE.

No, Col. Mustard. No candlestick. No study. But I think the events ‘may’ have happened.

[Fantasywriter]

Thanks for the ping, and for both your summaries, 461 & 466. They were helpful and informative.

Here’s what bothers me about the Mal-Val narrative. It’s not just put out there as a theory, w corroborating evidence to be discussed and debated. It’s put out there as FR Birther Gospel, and anybody who doesn’t buy it is a twerp, a lunatic, a troll or worse. That’s the problem w it in a nutshell: the nastiness that attaches to any questioning or rejection of it. How can anyone not see this is a liberal tactic? Conservatives argue facts and evidence, while liberals resort to name-calling and personal put-downs. At least that is the rule, but the Mal-Val theory proves there are exceptions.

My take on all this is perhaps a bit different/singular. My position rests on various facts and evidences that have come out during the past five or so years that have struck me as particularly dispositive. Really, there are only two major and one minor items that stand out (to me): Barry’s own claim of being born in Kenya, the missing records in the National Archives, and Barry’s confusion over the date of his own B-Day.

In order. It is impossible to understate the significance of Barry’s own claim of Kenyan birth. This goes all the way back to 1980. Obama was approached to write an autobiography, based all or almost solely on the fact of his being the first ‘black’ president of the Harvard Law Review. At this point, one of two things happened/was the case. Either records of Obama’s Kenyan birth were much more easily accessible, and the agent knew of his point of origin [and deemed it a plus in the narrative she envisioned] or else Obama, having nothing to lose via the truth and nothing to gain via a lie, noted his true birthplace (in the bio blurb that he wrote for the agency).

Here’s what didn’t happen. Obama didn’t lie about where he was born—not on this occasion. He was a penniless student, and an agent was offering him a fat bonus in advance of a book of which he had yet to write a single sentence. About the only way he could screw up this easy $ would be to tell a whopper right out of the gate. I.e.: not even a liberal literary agency wants an autobiography from a person incapable of even honestly stating their place of birth. It means the entire tale will be fabricated, & $ isn’t made on an autobiography constisting entirely of easily detected falsehoods. [Yes, Ayers lied his butt off on the final product, but by then sufficient records had been sealed to allow the “memoir” (w a looser standard of truth than an autobiography) to fly. In 1980, a pathologically lying literary unknown would not have interested the agency.]

Nor did the agency collaborate w Barry to lie about the birthplace. Integrity mattered more in 1980 than it does now, and the agency would have been a laughingstock if they promoted an author as born in Kenya who could easily be shown to have been born in the USA.

So the odds are at least 99 to 1 that Barry and his first literary agency correctly identified his country of birth. Also note that this fact was allowed to stand for 13 yrs, until such time as it came to light and threatened Barry’s legitimacy. At that time the agency offered the breathtakingly ludicrous excuse that it hadn’t “fact checked” Barry’s place of birth. Anybody who bought that explanation for an entire nanosecond is either staggering ignorant or staggeringly stupid. That’s just not how it works.

Second point. Any theory that doesn’t cover/nail the missing wk in the National Archive travel record is a nonstarter. In an investigation that has been fraught w roadblocks and red tape, the few solid facts which have emerged must be given priority in any analysis. The Cold Case Posse discovered that one wk, and one wk only, had been excised from the National Archive travelogue: that wk that bounded Barry’s supposed Aug. 4 ‘61 B-day.

So the question is, whose arrival from what foreign country so threatened Barry’s narrative that the National Archive record itself had to be degraded to cover it up? If it was Granny Dunham, flying back from Canada where she went to attend her only daughter’s first birth, where is the record of her flying out of HI in the first place? Perhaps such records are not kept, and this is the actual explanation.

More likely, it seems to me, is the arrival of SAD from whatever circuitous route she took to come home from Kenya. Such an arrival would destroy Barry’s nativity story in one fell swoop, and so would have HAD to be expunged from the record.

Playing into this scenario is Barry’s confusion over the date of his own B-Day. Speaking of the upcoming big event, he placed the actual date in about the third wk of July. Now people who’ve lived 50 yrs do not confuse the date of their own birth. They just don’t. People juggling 2 B-Days, the real one and the fake one—especially not particularly bright people, like Barry—could easily slip up and allude to the real B-Day on at least one occasion.

Meaning, Barry tipped us off to the date on which he was born in Kenya. SAD must have lingered too long and been forced to give birth there. Afterward, she waited only until Barry was allowed to accompany her on a plane and then she vamoosed.

Once in HI, Granny Dunham got busy and established US citizenship for Little Barry. This explains Barry’s confusion over which hospital he was born in, and also why 2 eyewitnesses claim Barry’s original ‘birth records’ are mostly handwritten. It explains all the other oddities too: why Barry’s BC # is actually that of a dead baby girl, why his efforts to produce a printed LFBC have been so torturous and fraudulent, and why no one in HI recalls SAD going into the hospital maternity ward or coming home w a newborn. It also explains Neil Abercrombie’s comment to his close friend that no official record of BHO’s birth existed in HI. A BC has since been concocted and placed in the file, but as the time Abercrombie searched for it, it just wasn’t there.

[Note: there is no contradiction between Barry’s fake US citizenship records and his claim of Kenyan birth. Having identified, by then/1980, w his Kenyan father/black-half, he saw no reason to lie to the agent about the actual country of his birth. He wasn’t educated well enough to know a Kenyan birth would impact his future POTUS aspirations, and besides, Granny Dunham’s records would stand despite anything Obama let slip about his true origins. It is entirely reasonable to see Barry at the time in his life when he’d rejected his white/American half and gone all in on his black/African half owning his Kenyan birth, only to hush it up later when it threatened his free-loading AF1 lifestyle. Fwiw.]

So that is my conclusion. Agree or disagree, either way is fine w me. As a bonus, I won’t dub anyone who disagrees w me stupid or a troll. Hopefully the truth will come out eventually. Till then we all just do the best we can w the facts at hand. This is my best analysis. Time will tell.