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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: TigersEye
Crap, missed it by That much!
1,001 posted on 09/06/2002 6:01:51 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: Ole Okie
The thread has to reach 1k.
1,002 posted on 09/06/2002 6:01:51 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Kevin Curry
They are brats, post-adolescent howler monkeys flitting from branch to branch defecating on anyone--such as President Bush--who is actively trying to make a difference.

I'm still in love... although I call them ankle biters.

1,003 posted on 09/06/2002 6:02:31 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Kevin Curry
To: Roscoe; Texasforever; Cultural Jihad

Infantile and childish FReeper anti-bitch queens, they whine and gripe about how much they hate it.
Hate it? You are it. Go punch yourself in the face if you detest it.

There are anti-FReeper sites stuffed to the gills with with snivelling anti-FReeper world champion whiners. Are these croak-toadies positive about anything? They wear their sour milk bib stains like medals of honor. It is no wonder that they detest FR. They detest anyone who tries to maintain some direction and sense of order.
They hated Bill Clinton and we thought it was because of they gross way he abused his position and sullied the Oval Office. Now they hate for a myraid of specious reasons. The common denominator? They just plain love authority and anyone who wields it. They are brats, post-adolescent howler monkeys flitting from branch to branch defecating on anyone who is actively trying to make a difference.
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Well put words kevin. I added & edited a bit for clarity, but you've basically nailed it about these FReepcreeps.
Thanks.
1,004 posted on 09/06/2002 6:02:58 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: TigersEye
I'm gonna miss old Tomkat.
1,005 posted on 09/06/2002 6:03:00 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Ole Okie
Ah... the power of cheese™

;0)

1,006 posted on 09/06/2002 6:03:10 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: ArneFufkin; Chad Fairbanks
to your question, arne, no, although i sometimes wish i were.

as to chad's comment, i, for one, like cheese.
a lot.

so there ...

1,007 posted on 09/06/2002 6:03:34 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: ArneFufkin
Ya think maybe it blew?
1,008 posted on 09/06/2002 6:03:36 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: tpaine
Is that the "Gang of Three"?
1,009 posted on 09/06/2002 6:03:47 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: TigersEye
Close... but no cigar (that's a different thread) ;0)
1,010 posted on 09/06/2002 6:04:04 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I think the highest compliment I ever got was that I was a PAID GOP shill who comes to FR daily to post slobbering threads about President Bush. Then again, I've also been called a liberal-lovin' soccer mom who works for the secret internet police owned and operated by AOL. :)
1,011 posted on 09/06/2002 6:04:22 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ArneFufkin

not my opus - i will reconstitute ...

1,012 posted on 09/06/2002 6:05:50 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: FreeTheHostages
TOP TEN REASONS WHY
(2) I'm Still A Happy Freeper (Lurker)

10.   The best place to get all the conservative news in one location.

9.    Great commentary; I don't post because someone has already made my comment.

8.    Liberals hate us, that accounts for something.

7.    All Your Bases Are Belong To Us

6.    We actually accomplish something, i.e. FReeps

5.    Only on a conservative web site can I learn the wonders of thongs.

4.    Møøse and Cheese are my friends.

3.    You all understand Møøse and Cheese.

2.    Let me jump in the shower and then I'll tell you my number one reason for being an avid Lurker.

1,013 posted on 09/06/2002 6:05:57 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Ole Okie
It has reached 1K. Much to my surprise, moi was the 1K poster... ;)
1,014 posted on 09/06/2002 6:06:23 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: Kevin Curry
Bump.
1,015 posted on 09/06/2002 6:06:36 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BluesDuke
And may I say what 1,000th post it was... certainly Food for thought...
1,016 posted on 09/06/2002 6:08:30 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: tomkat
Thermonuclear devestation is prettier than I imagined.
1,017 posted on 09/06/2002 6:08:30 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Red skies at night, sailor's delight...

Red skies in morning, radiation warning...

1,018 posted on 09/06/2002 6:09:33 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Wise words.
1,019 posted on 09/06/2002 6:10:34 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
pssst .... appreciation is directly proportionate to distance therefrom

the molecules are coalescing as we speak, btw ...

1,020 posted on 09/06/2002 6:10:37 PM PDT by tomkat
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