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[LogicWings]

These people have the idea.

http://www.azstarnet.com/border/br-12022002militia.html

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[Landru]

"#1. Should we acquiesce and allow the illegal immigration to continue while waiting for the elected officials to address the problem in a substantive way?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#2. Should we wait for Federal legislators to compromise our security and way of life by resolving the problem in a manner that is politically correct and acceptable to every nation in the world?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#3. If we continue to send snail mail and email letters to your local and State leaders. Will the roar be ever loud enough to be heard in the highest offices? What will their response be? Submition to illegal immigrants who want to change America forever?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#4. Should we wait until you fly off the handle and lash out at an illegal alien, surely resulting in legal problems that will further harm your family and ruin your life's ambition to be a good and loyal American citizen?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

"#5. Should you ignore the illegal immigration problem and hope it will go away before it gets much worse?"

No need to wait.
This is the present course of action, I believe?

If you think I'm kidding?

...I assure you, I'm not.

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[Marauder]

What the problems seems always to come down to is getting the mainstream citizen off his butt to vote. There are too many people that don't feel up to it, they're too tired, they think others are going to vote intelligently, yada, yada, yada. Another part of the problem is people that vote for some jerk because of the pork he sends home, or how he looks, or other reasons that make our Founding Fathers whirl in their graves.
Thus we have career politicians who don't want to risk getting booted out of office by losing the Hispanic vote, so they won't do anything meaningful about the illegal alien problem.
This raises the possibility of term limits, does it not? But if we have a capitol full of free riders who won't do anything to risk being turned out, nothing on the face of the earth will get them to vote for term limits.
The truth is we don't need term limits, because the voting process has it built in; yet when we abuse the voting privilege, we get what we deserve, which is what we have now: A bunch of congressional freeloaders who stay in office long enough to develop a huge case of hubris, and continue to work for themselves as opposed to doing what we sent them there to do. The guy that said it best was a talk radio host in Corpus Christi, TX who said, "We don't deserve the congressional representation that we have. It wouldn't matter if we were a penal colony full of rapists, murderers, and child molesters, we STILL wouldn't deserve the congressional representation that we have."
You want to solve the problem? Do what I'm doing: Get out and talk to everyone you know, tell them what is happening, explain the consequences, and get them to vote. Nag hell out of them is that's what it takes, but get them to see the problem. A grass roots approach is the quickest and most effective way to take America back. But it takes time and effort on everyone's part. It goes without saying that if someone you talk to is a flaming socialist liberal, leave him or her alone. Talk to Americans that love America, because it is their negligence that is hurting this country.

[CreekerFreeper]

This is a good idea...to expose the illegals who are being employed by American business. Expose the wrongdoing, dry up the jobs and the illegal immigration will dry up also.

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[RonF]

I don't have a proposal for the overall problem of illegal immigration. However, I do propose the following, in the hope that it will fix the issue of politicians who seem to think that non-citizens should have the same representation as citizens:

1) In the federal election to be held on the first Tuesday of February, 2005, no person shall be allowed to vote unless they have proved their U.S. citizenship by providing an American passport, birth certificate, or naturalization papers to the registrar.

2) The results of the election of any Federal official in any state not conforming to section 1 shall be nullified. Their Representatives shall not be seated in the House of Representatives, nor shall any newly elected Senators be seated in the Senate. Their electoral votes for President and Vice President shall not be counted. To ensure continuing representation, the sitting occupant of any seat that would have been filled by election shall continue in office. Not withstanding the usual perogatives of a State's Executive office, if the Federal office is vacant due to resignation or death, the seat shall remain vacant until it is filled by an election where the voters shall have qualified as per section 1.

It may be that a constitutional amendment may be needed for this. Or, perhaps not. It is certainly the intent of the Constitution that only citizens be allowed to vote. One would think that the Congress could enact law ensuring that this is carried out.

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