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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: Aric2000
Oh well, Scientists agree with ME, ID is NOT science.

One thing which evolutionists forget when claiming that evolution is science is that appeals to authority are worth ZERO in science. Science is like Joe Friday - just the facts. If you cannot back it up with evidence, it is not science.

261 posted on 06/22/2003 8:36:54 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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To: Derrald
You were using logic, now it's "evolution"?

Ok, go ask evolution how they ascertained that longer tongues put wings on lizards.

We'll wait.
262 posted on 06/22/2003 8:37:07 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: ALS
If I'm looking at Guernica and the guy next to me says "wow, those Spaniards sure got what was coming to them," I'm not supposed to believe that he has a thing against the Spanish? Your argument would hold water, but you CAPTIONED THE FREAKING CARTOON WITH YOUR OWN COMMENT, thus flavoring it with your opinion. Then, you yelled at me for inferring something from your opinion, NOT THE CARTOON.

Seriously, this has been going on for quite a while and you still have yet to egt it. Are you so dense that light bendsas it approaches you?

263 posted on 06/22/2003 8:37:31 PM PDT by Derrald
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To: Jorge
True. They could exlain it away as not necessarily being an argument against it though; it could be neutral if their explanation is correct.

What I am more interested in knowing due to their explanation is how blood started (since in the earliest creatures according to evolutionists did not have blood). How the heck could it just "show up" with all the necessary parts coming together at ONCE? How on Earth could the different blood types just come together for different species?
264 posted on 06/22/2003 8:37:51 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: ALS
You beat me to the punch line...again.
265 posted on 06/22/2003 8:37:53 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: plusone
The ancestor had 48, two of our chromosomes joined up, if you look at the chromosome link, you can see it bigger then big, you can see where the one chromosome of ours, is actually 2 of thiers linked up.

Fascinating stuff...
266 posted on 06/22/2003 8:38:20 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Joe Republc
Gravity is a proven, tested, and falsiable scientific law.

Actually, they are still trying to unify gravity with all the other forces. The theory of gravitation is still in flux.

267 posted on 06/22/2003 8:38:46 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Jorge
Again, feel free to review it at your leisure. There's no need to inform me yet again that you will not be persuaded, no matter what the evidence. I had already reached that conclusion before my initial remarks.
268 posted on 06/22/2003 8:38:52 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: rwfromkansas
Well, we would need to back up to the swamp that we all 'sprang' from...
269 posted on 06/22/2003 8:38:56 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Derrald
Show us the caption that mentions hell.

AGAIN, you are injecting your personal fears into a silly cartoon.

g e t t a g r i p
270 posted on 06/22/2003 8:39:32 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: ApesForEvolution
"You beat me to the punch line...again."

randomchancedidit!
271 posted on 06/22/2003 8:40:04 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: ALS
I don't SHOVE my belief system down anyones throat, that is why I do NOT discuss my religion with anyone.

Evolution is SCIENCE, NOT a belief system as you creos like to claim.

Your claim is false, and a lie, but that never seems to stop you.

I do not discuss my beliefs, I discuss SCIENCE, REAL, HARD Science.

But evolution threatens your worldview, therefore it scares you, and you HAVE to try and discredit it, no matter the means.
272 posted on 06/22/2003 8:40:50 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: BenLurkin
There are no facts; just hypotheses and theories.
273 posted on 06/22/2003 8:41:10 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: ALS
LOL
274 posted on 06/22/2003 8:41:17 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Coyoteman
The problem with ID is it does not follow the rules of science.

ID can be tested. Behe's irreducible complexity of the flagellum has been tested and it passed the test - if you take away any of the 40 odd genes that make it up, it will not work, period. So yes, ID can be tested.

Oh and by the way how does one test whetyher a species was 'naturally selected' or not?

275 posted on 06/22/2003 8:41:22 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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To: ALS
NO ONE EVER SAID THAT THE LIZARDS SPROUTED WINGS! You said this. Repeat after me: I said the Lizards sprouted wings. get it? YOU said the lizards sprouted wings. I said that you are nuts, and the only thing evolution would have proved is how lizards got long tongues.

Are you the kid, who, in the third grade, went up to another kid and said "You said that this rock could not be thrown over this wall!" then threw the rock over the wall and said "I win!"? Because that's the exact same logic you're employing here.

Argue with the logic of evolution, not your own convoluted thought. Then, we'll have a discussion.

276 posted on 06/22/2003 8:41:51 PM PDT by Derrald
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To: BenLurkin
If I drop my pencil it will fall to the floor. That is a fact.

Not a certainty, just a very high probability that it will ....

277 posted on 06/22/2003 8:42:21 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I meant to say "I don't know for sure.

Both?

Well, sure! There are certain questions we human beings typically ask for which science has no answers, and although science knows it does not have the answers it remains curious. The creation and how it came to be is one such question. Even if we accept science's Big Bang, the quesion: "And what was before the Big Bang?" remains unanswered--totally--no data whatsoever.

Religion, on the other hand, addresses the same question and provides answers but without the data. In the place of data there is faith.

To a scientist, data are limited to being a product of the scientific method. Scientists are well aware of this limitation and, thus, know there are existential phenomena (e.g., Cogito ergo..., etc.) for which data cannot be found. Thus, scientists know they do not know.

Therefore, many scientists have faith.

278 posted on 06/22/2003 8:42:51 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Aric2000
chromosomes really are cool. For example:
Opossum, redwood tree and kidney bean all have 22 chromes.. Corn, marijuana and a carrot all have 20 chromes. Chimp and tobacco have 48. Interesting.
279 posted on 06/22/2003 8:43:24 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Aric2000
Evolution (the faith in junk science trying to rationalize an alternative, with no evidence, God's very clear statements about Creation) doesn't kill people...evotards do.
280 posted on 06/22/2003 8:43:47 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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