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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: Aric2000
So. This means that disclaimer stickers can be put on religion books stating that creationism is a theory and not a fact.

One book gets it...the other books get it.
81 posted on 06/22/2003 6:36:23 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Calpernia
Tax payers do not have to pay for Bibles.
82 posted on 06/22/2003 6:37:34 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Jorge
Actually, eurythrocytes, leukocytes, thrombocytes, all are produced from one type of master blood stem cell, so it is conceivable that a being entirely lacking of thrombocytes could easily receive them, as the master blood cell holds the key to all types of blood cell. So, in the model of evolution, blood did not occur first, and then things bled to death. Rather, when blood came about, the entire package came with it. In short, blood never did exist without the clotting mechanism and the entire assumption that we had to learn to clot is based upon a rather flawed understanding of human physiology.
83 posted on 06/22/2003 6:37:36 PM PDT by Derrald
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To: Calpernia
Sounds like a plan to me.

All's fair.....
84 posted on 06/22/2003 6:37:54 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
Your post #72 has a civil tone and offers reasoned basis for your point.

I don't agree with you but I do appreciate and enjoy reading this kind of presentation.

85 posted on 06/22/2003 6:38:06 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: ApesForEvolution
I can examine gravity without leaving my desk...I can't travel anywhere in the world and examine 'evolution'.

You can sort of examine some aspects of it in certain conditions at your desk, hardly enough to make any judgements.

So9

86 posted on 06/22/2003 6:38:10 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Mr. Mojo
here:
http://conservababes.com

And ConservaBabes are a lot funnier at parties than soured up evo chicks.

87 posted on 06/22/2003 6:38:11 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Aric2000
So you don't have a source for the spew?


Why does that not surprise us...
88 posted on 06/22/2003 6:38:48 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Aric2000
(Gen 1:1 KJV) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

(Gen 1:2 KJV) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

(Gen 1:3 KJV) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

(Gen 1:4 KJV) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

(Gen 1:5 KJV) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

(Gen 1:6 KJV) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

(Gen 1:7 KJV) And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

(Gen 1:8 KJV) And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

(Gen 1:9 KJV) And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

(Gen 1:10 KJV) And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

(Gen 1:11 KJV) And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

(Gen 1:12 KJV) And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

(Gen 1:13 KJV) And the evening and the morning were the third day.

(Gen 1:14 KJV) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

(Gen 1:15 KJV) And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

(Gen 1:16 KJV) And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

(Gen 1:17 KJV) And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

(Gen 1:18 KJV) And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

(Gen 1:19 KJV) And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

(Gen 1:20 KJV) And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

(Gen 1:21 KJV) And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

(Gen 1:22 KJV) And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

(Gen 1:23 KJV) And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

(Gen 1:24 KJV) And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

(Gen 1:25 KJV) And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

(Gen 1:26 KJV) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

(Gen 1:27 KJV) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

(Gen 1:28 KJV) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

(Gen 1:29 KJV) And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

(Gen 1:30 KJV) And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

(Gen 1:31 KJV) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

(Gen 2:1 KJV) Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

89 posted on 06/22/2003 6:39:14 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: All
Well, this has been fun. Guess I'll go up top and see what religious fanatic has blown up another innocent person....
90 posted on 06/22/2003 6:39:23 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: BenLurkin
I am ONLY rude to those that have a history of being rude to me.

Racebannon has never been OPENLY rude to me, therefore I gave a reasoned response without emotion to it.

Others do NOT get the same treatment.

They attack me, I defend myself.
91 posted on 06/22/2003 6:40:28 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: DannyTN
The speed of light is slowing down.
92 posted on 06/22/2003 6:40:42 PM PDT by marbren
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To: Coyoteman
If science has no clue how we got here and doesn't like God's 'science', then they shouldn't teach it.

Man is in a quest to find reason for being - because man doesn't like God's one and only answer for it.

But that doesn't mean that uncorroborated junk science, like evolution, should be thrown in (as FACT when it's NOT REMOTELY) to be the cornerstone of the rest of the biological sciences - or anything else for that matter.

I have seen science affirm God's Word over and over again, and yet I haven't found science affirm ANYTHING about evolution.

93 posted on 06/22/2003 6:41:03 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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PLACEMARKER
94 posted on 06/22/2003 6:41:53 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"evolution is a theory, not a fact .... So is Gravity, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Chaos, ....

So9

Excellent,, Servant of 9! The word "Theory" is like the word "tap." You can "tap" someone on the shoulder, which is very different than to "tap" someone's bank account. Same word, different meanings. According to my dictionary, the popular usage of the word "theory" is "a mere hypothesis, conjecture, guess."

Natural selection (i.e., "evolution,") is an observed scientific phenomenon, and I have read much about the subject. The word "theory" in the application of evolution, as it is in mathematics or music, refers to another meaning of the word "theory," to wit: "that branch of art or science consisting in a knowledge of its principles and methods ..."

I've taken music "theory" in college, and it is NOT hypothesis or conjecture, it is classic "theory," the definition of working principles, as is "evolution" as pertains to the phenomenon of natural selection.

Natural selection has been observed again and again in flora and fauna, where certain traits that were successful in one environment, became a liability in a changed environment, and the plants/animals that had those characteristics died or were eaten before they matured to have offspring; the ones without the liable characteristic survied and had offspring, whose liklihood of inheriting that characteristic was greater -- hence their "evolution" from having one trait to having another.

Personally, I think that evolution itself is Intelligent Design, and very very much in line with God and His miracles. The New Testament speaks in parables -- for Pete's Sake, SO DOES GENESIS!!! In a nutshell, natural selection's bottom line is: adapt or perish. In God's spiritual world, we as human beings either adapt our societies to His wise laws, or we perish.

95 posted on 06/22/2003 6:42:08 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, and success. Amen.)
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To: ALS
You disapoint me ALS, I gave you a non sourced article, I thought for sure that you would be upset enough to find the source by yourself, and show me what a big boy you were.

But, you aren't a big boy, so I guess I have to lead you by the nose. But, Why am I NOT surprised?

Google is your friend.....

Sorry, I ain't your daddy, go find it!!
96 posted on 06/22/2003 6:43:44 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
INCOMING!!!

Look, if you're going to bleed all over this thread, then at least put on a bandage.
97 posted on 06/22/2003 6:43:50 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Aric2000; BenLurkin
Aric2000 is the designated evo attack-chihuahua.

Watch n learn. He started this thread to argue. Just look at the title and then cruise back through any his posts on this board for a clue.

Take note of his 2nd post in this thread.
98 posted on 06/22/2003 6:44:35 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: PatrickHenry
evotard placemarker placemarker BTTT
99 posted on 06/22/2003 6:45:19 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: PatrickHenry
I've been speculating as to why Creationists never want to challenge theories about the evolution of the Universe, and here is my hypothesis: they don't really care, as long as they, themselves, were specially created. Something about evolving from fish bothers them. I think it's due to an inferiority complex.
100 posted on 06/22/2003 6:45:35 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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