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Actress Brooke Shields kills 140 of her very own Children by undergoing 7 IVF Treatments
Various | 07.25.04

Posted on 07/25/2004 10:03:03 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: KQQL

My wife and I did seven invitros too. No luck now we have two beautiful adopted kids. Our embryos never had a chance. Life is lived forwards...understood backwards.
Thank God she had a child.
These are the kooks that bring us all down.


21 posted on 07/25/2004 10:14:03 PM PDT by Blacksheep
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

But people who criticize people who are Trying to Have Children in terms of the extra embryos? You need to rechannel your energy into something less crazy.





DUDE I never crticized her, I told "coleus" to get a real and get a life.


22 posted on 07/25/2004 10:14:11 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: Coleus

Lovely. This thread seems to be bringing out both the "guilty conscience" brigade and the "didn't bother to read the article" brigade.


23 posted on 07/25/2004 10:14:43 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: KQQL

Put her in the scalding dunk tank and use leeches! She has the devil in her, and we can beat it out using our medical science!


24 posted on 07/25/2004 10:15:07 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Tax Cheats should be in prison, scam artists should be beaten)
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To: Blacksheep

YEP.....


25 posted on 07/25/2004 10:15:25 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: KQQL
Even when a child often does result from an IVF procedure, the travesty of having to create, freeze or destroy so many of that baby's brothers and sisters is morally reprehensible.

And what is the natural method in which a woman's body disposes unused human eggs?

Nevermind...I already know.

26 posted on 07/25/2004 10:15:46 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Coleus

I'm not sure what "church" you're referring to? Are you a papist or something?


27 posted on 07/25/2004 10:15:48 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Coleus
LIfe is LIFE no matter the size of development. The lives of the innocent must always be protected.

Thanks for speaking for those who can't speak for themselves.
28 posted on 07/25/2004 10:17:21 PM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
What's better?
For 1 baby to be born, grow, learn to know and love god, and become saved, with 1 embyro lost in the process of IVF........or for the 1 baby to never have existed at all?

Semantics make everything very, very tricky. You see "it" is not merely an "embryo" but a "baby." So, lets rewrite that sentence like this:

What's better?
For 1 baby to be born, grow, learn to know and love god, and become saved, with 1 baby lost in the process of IVF........or for the 1 baby to never have existed at all?

Hmmm, in other words, in order to make a baby, you have to kill a baby.

29 posted on 07/25/2004 10:17:36 PM PDT by KeepRight
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To: KQQL

Well, on a Catholic thread in the last few days, there was a lot of worry and bother about the doctrine of "co-redemption," and Mary dropping by recently on several occasions to spread the good news. All rather difficult for this near Atheist to relate to. Different strokes for different folks. Some things are not subject to reasoned debate in the public square. All one can do is just move on.


30 posted on 07/25/2004 10:18:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: ArrogantBustard

Vanities such as this do not belong anywhere but the bloggers forum. Please don't castigate us poor slobs that ain't smart enough to follow such a long article so late at night.


31 posted on 07/25/2004 10:18:10 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: ArrogantBustard
Lovely. This thread seems to be bringing out both the "guilty conscience" brigade and the "didn't bother to read the article" brigade.

Kudos to anyone who got past the title.

32 posted on 07/25/2004 10:19:29 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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And what is the natural method in which a woman's body disposes unused human eggs? Nevermind...I already know.

Do you?

What are "unused human eggs" Oh, you mean the unfertilized ones? They aren't babies are they?

33 posted on 07/25/2004 10:20:50 PM PDT by KeepRight
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"Why is the fertilization procedure in itself immoral? Doctors "create" multiple embryos at one time in order to increase the chances of success of implantation. Normally dozens of embryos are created and never used. These littlest human beings are then frozen or destroyed. The success rate of the in vitro process is abysmally low: only 4 percent of all the embryos created ever see the light of day as a newborn baby."

This is the whole objection to the procedure. Notice they say embryos not unfertilized eggs, fertilizing eggs and hence making a new human with an unique soul only to be tossed away is simply abortion without the womb.

34 posted on 07/25/2004 10:22:12 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: KeepRight
What are "unused human eggs" Oh, you mean the unfertilized ones? They aren't babies are they?

No...they're not babies. Did you think so?

35 posted on 07/25/2004 10:22:40 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Lovely. This thread seems to be bringing out both the "guilty conscience" brigade and the "didn't bother to read the article" brigade. >>>

I've noticed. Some people can't bear to read the truth and the truth seems to bother some people. Now we know why there is so much confusion regarding the embryonic stem cell issue. Just create them, experiment with them, use them freeze them, burn them and then disgard them. Sounds nice, we sure are a civilized people. Americans must know when life begins and must realize that we can not harvest babies for their parts. Looks like moral relativism is already the norm.


36 posted on 07/25/2004 10:22:53 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Torie

lol....


37 posted on 07/25/2004 10:22:55 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: KQQL

GET REAL.

She was trying to HAVE A baby ,,,


She had over 140 of them, one of them made it, the others were killed.


38 posted on 07/25/2004 10:23:56 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
1) It's been moved to the blogger's fourm.

2) There are some folks here who are castigating the author in a manner which indicates that they either didn't bother to even browse the article much less read it, or else they have ZERO knowledge of reproductive biology. But that's OK. Not knowing Jack Squat never stopped folks from regurgitating stupid opinions on this forum in the past. Why should this thread be any different?

39 posted on 07/25/2004 10:24:14 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: South40
No they are not. That's the point. If they are unfertilized, then they aren't babies.

you asked: And what is the natural method in which a woman's body disposes unused human eggs?

It is fine to dispose of unused human eggs. It's not fine to dispose of fertilized eggs.

40 posted on 07/25/2004 10:24:47 PM PDT by KeepRight
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