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Matt Margolis ^ | 12/1/2004 | agitate

Posted on 12/01/2004 1:44:59 PM PST by Agitate

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To: EdReform

The aspect of adopted children of homosexual parents is simply incorrect.

1. Who says that homosexual parents are "better" at parenting thn heterosexual parents?

2. Is there any proof that homosexuals are more stable, can provide a better life for the child, and will stay monogomous in their relationship for the sake of the adopted child?

3. By allowing homosexuals to create a new "race" for their agenda, will this raise a new generation of children who will think other immoral behaviors should be accepted as well?


21 posted on 12/01/2004 3:39:16 PM PST by borntobeagle (Christians are not anti-sinners, Christians are anti-sin)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
Right, to imply it is is ridiculous. Interracial marriage, if it hadn't happened, would have made most of us non existent. They are still comprised of a, oh my.........MAN AND WOMAN!!!
22 posted on 12/01/2004 9:14:55 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: Noachian
You wrote some very good points, which I agree with. 87% of gays were abused as children, by an adult of the same sex. The other 13% admitted to have been "introduced to this lifestyle at a very young age" They didn't consider it abuse, or molestation.

My question is, we know the abused tend to abuse. (not all, but the percentages are staggering) So why are we allowing these kids to have contact with these people? The Boy Scouts don't for that very reason!

I'm sorry they were abused, but it has to stop, the answer isn't to create a whole new generation of gays! That's what they are doing, by adopting kids, and indoctrinating in schools.
23 posted on 12/01/2004 9:21:08 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: little jeremiah

It's also worth noting that every single one of the legal benefits or arrangements that homosexuals supposedly want "marriage" for, can be done without any "marriage". There are attorneys galore, paralegals, do it yourself legal forms and books. All can be done without faux same sex "marriage".

They certainly do!! I wish people would, heck I wish the President would, shout it from every roof top! They already HAVE those rights.


24 posted on 12/01/2004 9:26:46 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: JesseHousman

Yes they are!! I am Part Native American, part English. And proud of both heritages. As everyone should be. Those that had parents of the oppositie sex!


25 posted on 12/01/2004 9:29:21 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: gidget7
My question is, we know the abused tend to abuse. (not all, but the percentages are staggering) So why are we allowing these kids to have contact with these people? The Boy Scouts don't for that very reason!

It’s a good question and I’d like to give you a concrete answer, but not being an attorney I’ll have to speculate.

You and I may see a child in the custody of homosexuals as child abuse per se, but not to our courts. As long as neither homosexual has a history of abuse he/she may freely adopt a child. What happens to the child over the years while in their custody is another matter. It seems our courts don’t deal in common sense as much as in written case law.

So, yes most homosexuals were abused, and will be abusive at some point in time, and the growing children will have suffered at their hands. Put homosexual marriage into the mix and things get worse for the children, because where there’s marriage there’s divorce.

Male homosexuals, for the most part, are notoriously promiscuous, and lifelong partners are rare. So, which divorced homosexual partner gets custody of the children, and what kind of life style will a single male homosexual give to his adopted children while he’s looking for a new mate?

…the answer isn't to create a whole new generation of gays!

I think that there’s a lot of peer pressure on the child of a homosexual parent that would tend to mitigate a child’s sexual orientation as he/she goes though the schooling years, so I’m not sure that every child adopted by a homosexual will turn out the same way – although many will. Most of all let’s not forget nature. When boy meets girl it’s hard to suppress natural instincts.

There’s a lot negatives a child has to face when not in a normal family, and the best thing our Children’s Services could do would be to make sure every child lands in a normal home. Keep children, who cannot give consent to their adoptive parents, away from those who would use them as pets instead of as God’s children.

26 posted on 12/01/2004 10:11:51 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: little jeremiah
There really isn't a 50% failure rate for marriage.

Secular humanists no doubt count those shacking up who break it off!

27 posted on 12/02/2004 4:57:57 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: Agitate
It doesn't make sense that they push so hard for marriage and at the same time justify their position by belittling it.

Bingo.

Shalom.

28 posted on 12/02/2004 6:10:38 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Agitate
The right to be see a dying loved one in the hospital, though they're not a "blood relative".

Confusion, misdirection, and emotionalism.

There were lots of people who loved my father. Only a few of them were his family. Only one of them was his lover - his wive of over 50 years. Gays confuse love with sex and both with marriage, then want to claim victim status because a man's latest "partner" can't be treated like his wife.

Hint to gays. Everything isn't about sex. If you knew that, you wouldn't identify yourself primarly by your fetish.

Shalom.

29 posted on 12/02/2004 6:13:27 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: gidget7

What is marriage anyway? Why was it invented in the first place?

You can have love without marriage. You can even have children without marriage.

So why did all ancient civilizations create the institution of marriage? What was the intended purpose?

The fact is, marriage makes children legitimate and gives their mother some rights in a patriarcial society. It forces men to acknowlege their progeny and gives the children the right of inheritance. It also gives women (again, in a patriarcial society) some minimum expectation of support and inheritance.

This is easiest to see when you consider the implications of marriage in royalty. A king's bastards were not in line for the throne - only his legitimate children were.

Marriage has nothing to do with welfare benefits or insurance or hospital visitation. Marriage really has nothing to do with love, for that matter.

Personally, I would have no issue with some form of civil union for gays BECAUSE it is not equal to marriage and could be regulated seperately. In many areas, such as adoption, I do not want justice to be blind to the difference - traditional married couple SHOULD receive preferential treatment. Not that gays should be barred from adopting, but when there is a choice of a traditional couple or a gay couple, well, sorry but the man/woman married couple should be preferred.

Is this bigoted? Maybe. Too bad, so sad.


30 posted on 12/02/2004 8:46:53 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (The Compasionate Troll)
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To: little jeremiah
"Except for "gay" marriage. No rationality here."

LOL! In their world (and they would like it to be our world), heterosexuals should "live together" and gays should marry.

31 posted on 12/03/2004 12:53:41 AM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

In 1972, Gay Activists came up with a list of goals. Among these goals was the repeal of laws that made sexual activity among homosexuals illegal. They wanted laws to ban discrimination in employment. They wanted to have homosexual marriage, and once the right to marriage was established, the goal was to have homosexual group marriage. This is the real danger of same sex marriage, that if we accept the premise that it's discriminatory not to allow homosexual marriage, then once marriage rights are established, the definition of marriage will be changed again to include any groups of people, any combination of the sexes. Re-defining marriage to include any two people regardless of gender is a transitional phase to completely overturning our marriage and family law. Homosexuals don't want "marriage equality". The last thing they really want is a monogamous relationship for life. They want to get established the right to marriage under the law, so that they can then change it again. Eventually we won't have marriage at all in this country, all because we have to prove we're poltically correct and not "discriminatory". We will have to allow same-sex marriage to keep Lambda Legal and the ACLU happy.


32 posted on 12/03/2004 10:57:43 PM PST by Dan19
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To: Dan19
"This is the real danger of same sex marriage, that if we accept the premise that it's discriminatory not to allow homosexual marriage, then once marriage rights are established, the definition of marriage will be changed again to include any groups of people, any combination of the sexes. Re-defining marriage to include any two people regardless of gender is a transitional phase to completely overturning our marriage and family law. Homosexuals don't want "marriage equality". The last thing they really want is a monogamous relationship for life. They want to get established the right to marriage under the law, so that they can then change it again. Eventually we won't have marriage at all in this country"

I understand that (the reason for my comment) and fully agree.

33 posted on 12/03/2004 11:07:18 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: cdg74
I must start off by stating that the heterosexual definition of the word ‘marriage’ is solely based on religion.

The concept of marriage is based solely on religion. It's where it began, and why society developed to incorporate its structure into its own. Since the rest of your post is based on this glaring omission, it is a dead-end of extrapolation that is unsupported, therefore not worth replying to.

35 posted on 12/07/2004 11:41:22 AM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: cdg74

For your information I don't believe in common law marriages either. My wife wanted me to move in with her before we were married and I didn't. I told her why also and she understood. I also do not cheat on my wife because trust is the one thing in a marriage you can lose and will never get it back because once you cheat, the question will always be on her mind if you'll do it again.

Now if you can show me in the Bible where it says homosexuality is okay I'll change my view on it. If you can't then my belief is right where it belongs. By the way, I wouldn't go out beating up gays or whatever. I choose to leave them alone.

Definition of marriage in Webster's Dictionary:

Legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

I don't believe that 2 males or 2 females fits that definition.


36 posted on 12/07/2004 11:46:34 AM PST by MadAnthony1776
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To: Agitate
The right to be see a dying loved one in the hospital,...

Perhaps the "loved one" doesn't want to see his "better half" because the realization has finally sunk in as to why he's dying.

Shoving one's pee-pee into another's anus is just not moral. These homosexuals probably brush their teeth carefully and floss before crawling into bed and shoving their face up their bunkmate's bung!

These people are so damned evil that it was inconceivable to me how the PC crowd could wish "marriages" blessed between these sodomists in order that they could adopt children and go to PTA meetings!

Just damn!

37 posted on 12/07/2004 12:59:54 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: cdg74
Chad, there's nothing a homosexual apologist can say to justify changing the definition of marriage. Nothing you can say to prove the anus was designed to be a sex organ, by homo or hetero sexuals.

We do not CHOOSE to be extroverted, we do not CHOOSE to be organized, we do not CHOOSE to be gay. Would you choose to be ridiculed for not being “normal?” I think if you would sit everyone down when they are young (or whatever point you say we chose to be gay) and ask them to make a choice: be gay, or be straight, No one would CHOOSE to be gay. That is, not in today’s world.

Well, I was heavily ridiculed for not looking like some people thought I should (mixed), but not for my behavior, that's different! I have suffered from some problem behavior in my life. However, I do not try to have them accepted as normal and recognized by the state! I deal with them, and work to change them! No I didn't choose them but I recognize them as NOT good and I can CHOOSE to change. That's the problem with recognizing homosexuality as a normal condition, it isn't any more normal than heteros who say their "sexually addicted" and can't help it--neither behavior is healthy or good and that must be recognized.

...God views our union as something good or bad.

We already know the answer to this one. Better to say you don't believe in the bible than attempt to change what it means.

I have had several homosexual friends and co-workers, and one loved one. Yes, I strongly disagree with their lifestyles, but I still love them and they didn't make me angry because they weren't trying to force acceptance and approval for what they were doing.

They are not only void of intelligent thought, but are filled with hatred

Another lie I'm fed up with. I don't approve of your sexual life so I'm full of hatred, huh? How very ridiculous, and dangerous. Now I can't choose my beliefs without being a bigot? PLEASE! I loved my cousin very much from the time we were kids until he died of AIDS.

Please spare me the lines about wishing to be treated equally. I worked with many homosexuals at my very large corporation who quickly moved up the management ladder to prominent, influential positions and stayed there for years.

Still, they demanded a company wide message be sent out to "...let people know we're here." They are well qualified and deserved the job positions they have. They do not deserve to have special recognition of their chosen sexual behavior any more than I do, especially in the workplace! I am single and abstainate. Is anyone sending out a special message for me?

You have the same basic rights as anyone else. I don't think homosexuality is any worse than any sin I have committed, or any other form of sexual immorality. And people have a right to decide their own morality and beliefs of course. Yes, I believe the sexual choices of many of my friends and family are wrong and I condemn it no problem. Adultery disgusts me most because it is betrayal on top of bad sexual behavior.

The difference is they are not asking for my recognition or approval, or comparing their sexual behavior to my being of mixed race! That is wrong, illogical and over the line.

it will no way effect how you go about your daily life...it will NO WAY impact your life. So why do you care so much.

Not true, it will effect the entire culture, and you know it. Look at Scandinavia as a model: The End of Marriage in Scandinavia

There's nothing you can't achieve now with your chosen partner that you can by changing the definition of marriage. So why do you want so badly to change it?

Why do homosexual activists want to attack the bible as hate speech and censor it? I disagree with the quran but I don't want it banned!!

Why accuse people of hate because they don't agree with you?

Why do you want to change the definition of marriage so you can be like heterosexuals? Why do you need that? Why can't you leave us alone and do what you want?

I also hope you realize that "mixed" marriage is not comparable to homosexual marriage.





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38 posted on 12/07/2004 4:13:14 PM PST by Agitate (Glad to be a Kafir-Crusader-Zionist. "You will know the truth, and the truth will make you mad.")
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To: cdg74

Dear cdg74,

Sorry I missed you. Have a nice zot... er, day!


39 posted on 12/08/2004 1:45:48 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (The Compasionate Troll)
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