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All men are liars, why won't you believe me?
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 7/31/06 | Sam de Brito

Posted on 07/31/2006 10:51:10 AM PDT by Millee

Forgive the shameless plug, but this is the entry we had to have. Think of it as our first, fumbling kiss… I promise to be gentle. The name of this blog and, the reason I landed this gig, are because of a book I've just written titled No Tattoos Before You're Thirty… what I'll tell my children. Conceived as an advice guide to my yet-to-be-born kiddies, it grew out of a column for a Sunday newspaper. In the book, the very first pearl I impart to my daughter is: "All men are liars. Any male between the age of thirteen and death who says 'I just want to be friends' wants to sleep with you. Men will say anything to get you in bed and none of them are to be trusted." Now, here's the bizarre thing…

Both of the female editors I worked with (at the publishing house and at my former Sunday newspaper) wanted to change this not-altogether-original advice to read: "All men are liars (well, most of them anyway)."

Their reasoning was and, I paraphrase, "you can't generalise, not all men are like you."

Really? And maybe I can interest you in buying the Harbour Bridge?

Men lie about everything: we lie about where we've been, who we were with and, especially, what we were doing. We lie about how much we like our girlfriend's cooking, clothes, friends, family, boobs and the boobs of their friends and family.

We lie about our income, exes, ambitions, how many women we've slept with, beers we've drunk, our abiding affection for pornography and what the hell that rash is.

"We lie so much it's like a second language," says comedian Chris Rock.

Why do men lie?

Simply; to avoid confrontation, pain and, ultimately, the growth that being truthful requires. The majority of men are still boys and we like things just the way they are, thank you. Taunts of 'why don't you grow up?' are like video game sweat off Lara Croft's back.

The more intriguing question, for me anyhow, is why do women lie?

As Chris Rock says: "You know what a man's lie is like? 'I was at Kenny's house'. A woman's lie is like, 'It's your baby'."

I've learned this lesson, to a degree, beating myself up for the tiny fibs I thought were tainting the sanctity of a relationship, only to call my girlfriend at her friend's place and hear…

"Aww, did she say was sleeping here tonight? I'm really sorry, Sam."

Still, I'm not cynical; I'm a pragmatist. I just expect that sooner or later, a woman is going to tell me a whopper that, if discovered, would change the course of both our lives.

What I don't get, is women, usually university educated, dating guys wearing skivvies, who insist men are different: that there are bad guys who lie and good guys who don't.

So, lemme clear that up for you right now, ladies.

The bad guys lie to get in your pants.

The good guys lie to get in your heart.


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To: Mike Bates

Simple. With men, it's a taught behavior. Women learn how lie earlier than fish learn how to swim. And they do it better.


21 posted on 07/31/2006 11:22:13 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Millee

"Men lie about everything: we lie about where we've been, who we were with and, especially, what we were doing. We lie about how much we like our girlfriend's cooking, clothes, friends, family, boobs and the boobs of their friends and family."

Now thats a dadgum lie. I'm usually very serious and honest when discussing boobs.

I will expect a screed on how women lie...constantly.



22 posted on 07/31/2006 11:25:56 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: cripplecreek

Yikes how off quickly the top did that post come to you.




23 posted on 07/31/2006 11:29:37 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: cripplecreek

cripplecreek not just a screen name.


24 posted on 07/31/2006 11:36:32 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: sully777
>i>Which male would you trust???

Him! ;o)


25 posted on 07/31/2006 11:37:40 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I.)
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To: sully777

The Pathological Liar Picks Up Jerry Hall

.....Jerry Hall
Tommy Flanagan.....Jon Lovitz
.....Mick Jagger


Bartender: What can I get you?

Jerry Hall: Uh.. I think I'll have a white wine spritzer. [ he places it on the counter and moves aside ] Can I get a light? [ pulls out a cigarette ]

Tommy Flanagan: [ swaying next to her with a cigarette lighter extended toward her ] I got it!

Jerry Hall: Thank you.

Tommy Flanagan: My name's Tommy, Dr. Tom.. uh.. Senator Tommy Flanagan.

Jerry Hall: Really?

Tommy Flanagan: Mmm hmm.. Say, haven't I seen you somewhere before?

Jerry Hall: I doubt it.

Tommy Flanagan: Oh, I know! I saw you at the.. White House! Yeah, that's the ticket. Why, I was just there last.. uh.. yesterday. Yeah.. having dinner with the Royal Family.

Jerry Hall: Which Royal Family?

Tommy Flanagan: Uh.. the one on TV. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a producer, you know. Big-time tele.. movie producer. Yeah, that's the ticket! So, what do you do?

Jerry Hall: Oh, I do some modeling, I wrote a book, and I'm into rock and roll.

Tommy Flanagan: Oh, yeah? I wrote a book about rock and roll. Yeah, it was about the guy who invented rock and roll. Yeah, that's it! In fact, it was.. it was an autobiography! Yeah!

Jerry Hall: [ not buying it ] You invented rock and roll?

Tommy Flanagan: Mmm hmm. Swing, too. Yeah, I played with all the big bands - Elvis Presley, Benny Goodman, Buddy Holly, The Who..

Jerry Hall: And I suppose you played with The Stones, too, huh?

Tommy Flanagan: Well, now you're being silly! I never played with them.

Jerry Hall: I didn't think so.

Tommy Flanagan: No. I managed them! Yeah.. I did. In fact, I wrote all their songs, too. You remember "Satisfaction"? I wrote it!

Jerry Hall: You did not write "Satisfaction".

Tommy Flanagan: Well.. not all of it. Actually.. uh.. Mick Jagger wrote it. Yeah, that's it! But it was originally called, uh.. "I Can't Get No.. uh.. Service in This Place".. and I changed it!

Jerry Hall: You know Mick Jagger?

Tommy Flanagan: Yeah. We were in Vietnam together. In fact, I saved his life.

Jerry Hall: He was never in 'Nam.

Tommy Flanagan: That's how I saved his life - I talked him out of going!

Jerry Hall: Come on! you never met Mick Jagger!

Tommy Flanagan: Oh, yeah? How do you know?

Jerry Hall: Because I'm his wife.

Tommy Flanagan: Oh. [ looks at her hand ] Yeah, well, where's your wedding band?

Jerry Hall: We're not exactly married.

Tommy Flanagan: Ah-ha! I knew you were lying!

Jerry Hall: Well, I am his girlfriend. [ looks to her side ] In fact, here he is now!

Mick Jagger: Hi, darling! I'm sorry I'm a little late. I was.. locked in the studio.

Jerry Hall: Never mind, let's just get going.. [ gets up ]

Tommy Flanagan: [ faking ] Hey, Mick, how you doing! It's me, Tommy! Remember?

Mick Jagger: Who's this guy?

Jerry Hall: Some guy named "Tommy", who thinks he knows you.

Mick Jagger: [ thinking ] Oh, yeah.. I know him!

Tommy Flanagan: [ surprised ] You do?

Jerry Hall: [ also surprised ] Really?

Mick Jagger: Yeah. You remember last weekend when I didn't come home? Uh.. I.. I was.. I was with Tommy. That's right! We were.. we were.. uh.. [ Tommy pantomimes fishing ] ..fishing together! That's the ticket! Right, Tommy?

Tommy Flanagan: [ on the spot ] Yeah, Mick, that's the ticket! You and me, fishing! Yeah! You bet!

Mick Jagger: We caught one this big! [ holds his arms out a couple of feet, while Tommy holds his out twice as much ]

Jerry Hall: [ not interested, wanting to go ] Come on.. [ pulls Mick out of the bar ]

Tommy Flanagan: See? I told you I knew him.

Mick Jagger: [ whispering to Tommy as he passes ] Thanks, buddy, I owe you for this one. [ faces the camera before he exits ] "Live, from New York, it's Saturday Night!"


26 posted on 07/31/2006 11:50:42 AM PDT by Millee (A joke then, a joke N.O.W.)
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To: Millee

Wonder what kind of truth would come out of women if a man asked:

Do you still feel aroused when you smell the cologne and think of the understanding ice blue eyes of Mr. X that knew your inner soul?


27 posted on 07/31/2006 11:51:41 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: sully777
Do you still feel aroused when you smell the cologne and think of the understanding ice blue eyes of Mr. X that knew your inner soul?

"{{SIGH}} No of course not runner-up uhm honey. I've completely forgotten how his arms felt wrapped around me, and his hot breath on my neck.. all about him."

28 posted on 07/31/2006 11:55:46 AM PDT by Millee (A joke then, a joke N.O.W.)
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To: Millee


Yeah that's the ticket...yeah my wife is Morgan...Morgan Fairchild.
29 posted on 07/31/2006 11:57:07 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Millee


So that's what YADDA YADDA YADDA means!?
30 posted on 07/31/2006 12:01:12 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: cripplecreek; Lazamataz
The really bad guys lie to get you in their trunk.

You're supposed to ping people when you mention 'em, yo. ;)
31 posted on 07/31/2006 12:02:19 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.)
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To: Millee
The bad guys lie to get in your pants.

The good guys lie to get in your heart.


WTF, he just ruined a perfectly good article. He should be the first to say there's no good/bad guys. We all want the same thing.
32 posted on 07/31/2006 12:03:49 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: Adder
I would love to gratify your expectation, but Kelly Bundy said it better than I ever could.

"Let me tell you the difference between men and women: we're liars and you're all idiots."


33 posted on 07/31/2006 12:08:03 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.)
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To: Millee
The bad guys lie to get in your pants.

We're supposed to lie to get in their pants? Damnit, no wonder it took so long. Sheesh.
34 posted on 07/31/2006 12:09:36 PM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: BJClinton
Damnit, no wonder it took so long. Sheesh

Still good times...


35 posted on 07/31/2006 12:24:23 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Millee
Think of it as our first, fumbling kiss…

I didn't have a first fumbling kiss because I had to keep up the lie that I knew what I was doing.
...But I think that proves the author's point.

PS - I'd like to think that I lie to get into her heart, but I could be lying about that too.

36 posted on 07/31/2006 8:15:51 PM PDT by BostonianRightist (I probably haven't read the entire article, or checked my html.)
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