Posted on 01/12/2008 4:06:08 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Ping!
I know that my son who is a computer wizard genius, taught me what I know, built my computer from spare parts....
hates Vista. Insisted that I NOT have it on my new laptop.
My computer wizard son said that Vista requires at least a gig of RAM, so any computer with less than 2 GB will not run well.
Every single person I know and every neighbor who bought or was given a new laptop has either taken it back to the store for a refund, or demanded an XP conversion. There are only a few things to call a Vista Customer, particularly on a laptop:
A Mac Customer.
A Linux Convert.
Angry.
Needless to say, our IT manager is on the phone EVERY day to Microsoft trying to find solutions to annoying "issues" that repeatedly pop up and have the potential to cripple our operations if left unchecked.
Microsoft ought to be ashamed of itself for putting such a shoddy OS out on the market and trying to force folks to upgrade to it via their draconian licensing agreements and control of the business software market.
Haha, more like the Second Leaving.
I remember OS/2. It was better than Vista, and it was a train wreck. The OS/2 Team worked their hearts out trying to get mine to work, and I felt sorry for them.
I cannot work up that sympathy for MS. Anyone who would do what Vista did to their customer base deserves whatever happens.
PS: DRM, anyone?
I HATE vista. I want to convert my newer vista PC to XP, but MS won’t honor the transfer of the license.
I may try Linux after all. How much does Leopard cost?
as a IT pro i would almost agree entirely with the article
yet vista’s biggest issue wasnt the OS, it was all the 3rd party software makers and drivers (lack of to be more precise) that are currently the biggest headache. Now you can say Micro~1 was greedy and made software companies jump through hoops to develop for vista. But in reality Vista is harder to code for. dotnet even compounds the problem.
vista will either become good after sp1 like win 98. For those who remember win98 stunk to high heaven and was buggy as heck til sp1. Or will be the next ME if the vista name becomes to tainted to carry.
currently XP pro cost more oem on all the sales sights....hmmmmmm
Based on everything I've read and heard from Vista victims that I work with, I was right to avoid it.
That being said, I think I will leave this thread now before the Mac snobs finish watching their BetaMax movies and log-on to hijack the conversation.
I just got my first super-zoomy computer. For ten years, I’ve been using hand-me-downs and <$400.00 machines.
This one is a monster. 4 gig ram, 500 gig hard drive, quad core processor, the works.
And it came with XP installed.
I insisted on that and, from what I’ve heard, I’m glad I did.
What’s DRM?
Wow, that’s a beast! How much?
I run XP, I run Vista....I don’t see what the big problem is.
A fellow Kiwanian and his wife came to me for advise when buying a new laptop last week. I advised them insisting it come with XP. They didn’t take my advice and bought one with Vista because Best Buy told them that’s all they sell and the system could not be converted to XP (Does anyone know if this is a fact?).
I spent 4 hours yesterday working with a system I’m unfamiliar with (Vista), trying to get the laptop and their old desktop (XP) linked through a wireless router, and a new printer installed. I have to go back Monday and finish up. While not all of the problems I encountered stem from Vista, I don’t find it as intuitive as XP.
Note: The install pamphlet for the router came with instructions that related to XP installation sequences (I’ve installed one under XP). The way the software ran in Vista, it looked and performed completely different than it showed in the pamphlet (or what I’d experienced before). Boy, was that confusing. Also, the printer (an HP All-In-One) was not installing. It was in the ink cartridge alignment stage and wouldn’t progress after that. Sheesh!
I’m NOT an IT tech. Nor am I a geek who can whiz through software and hardware issues. But I am more experienced than the average customer, and these folks and I agreed that they’d have been completely clueless if on their own. The IT world lives in a bubble, and has no idea what kind of a monster they’ve created for their non-corporate customers. And Microsoft is the pinnacle of this disassociation.
I want to hear more about installing Leopard on a PC.
Has anybody in this forum done this or know somebody who has?
To run your Windoze programs, you can run them in a vmware windows guest on a Leopard host. But for overall productivity, you can use Leopard native.
The underlying OS of Leopard is BSD unix.
And has anybody seen Linux Mint? It’s free, and provides a Vista-like “experience” without the Vista headaches.
Are you up on Microsoft licensing?
I believe it used to be the case that if you owned a license for a more recent OS / higher level OS, you were legal to run something earlier. In other words, if you held a Win98 license you could run Win95, if you had a Win2K license, you could run NT 4.0, that sort of thing.
Does that still apply today? Has anyone tried to get a WinXP install verified based on holding a Vista license?
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