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1 posted on 01/12/2008 4:06:11 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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2 posted on 01/12/2008 4:06:32 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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I know that my son who is a computer wizard genius, taught me what I know, built my computer from spare parts....
hates Vista. Insisted that I NOT have it on my new laptop.


3 posted on 01/12/2008 4:08:12 AM PST by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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What people want is performance, not pretty pictures. That is what hurt it. If MS can’t optimize the performance to bring it in-line with XP, without having to have twice the memory and processor, then it is the second coming of OS/2.
4 posted on 01/12/2008 4:12:18 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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My company recently upgraded our XP laptops to Vista laptops. It was a BIG mistake, to say the least. I'm forced to run Vista every day, and it sucks at so many different levels that I don't know where to begin my criticism of this turkey.

Needless to say, our IT manager is on the phone EVERY day to Microsoft trying to find solutions to annoying "issues" that repeatedly pop up and have the potential to cripple our operations if left unchecked.

Microsoft ought to be ashamed of itself for putting such a shoddy OS out on the market and trying to force folks to upgrade to it via their draconian licensing agreements and control of the business software market.

7 posted on 01/12/2008 4:16:07 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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I haven't had a Mac since the 80's, but these commercials are just great.


9 posted on 01/12/2008 4:19:56 AM PST by SkyPilot
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as a IT pro i would almost agree entirely with the article

yet vista’s biggest issue wasnt the OS, it was all the 3rd party software makers and drivers (lack of to be more precise) that are currently the biggest headache. Now you can say Micro~1 was greedy and made software companies jump through hoops to develop for vista. But in reality Vista is harder to code for. dotnet even compounds the problem.

vista will either become good after sp1 like win 98. For those who remember win98 stunk to high heaven and was buggy as heck til sp1. Or will be the next ME if the vista name becomes to tainted to carry.

currently XP pro cost more oem on all the sales sights....hmmmmmm


11 posted on 01/12/2008 4:21:41 AM PST by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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I haven't used or investigated Vista very thouroughly, but since the moment I heard of it, I sensed that it was the second coming of Windows ME (which I upgraded to, back in the day, for about an hour before I decided to roll back to 98.)

Based on everything I've read and heard from Vista victims that I work with, I was right to avoid it.

That being said, I think I will leave this thread now before the Mac snobs finish watching their BetaMax movies and log-on to hijack the conversation.

12 posted on 01/12/2008 4:21:52 AM PST by Washi (Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support.)
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Another problem is Microsoft has become a much more bloated, bureaucratic company. Too many cooks in the design kitchen gives you a clear Vista of a bloated mess.
13 posted on 01/12/2008 4:22:04 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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I just got my first super-zoomy computer. For ten years, I’ve been using hand-me-downs and <$400.00 machines.

This one is a monster. 4 gig ram, 500 gig hard drive, quad core processor, the works.

And it came with XP installed.

I insisted on that and, from what I’ve heard, I’m glad I did.


14 posted on 01/12/2008 4:23:05 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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I want to hear more about installing Leopard on a PC.

Has anybody in this forum done this or know somebody who has?

To run your Windoze programs, you can run them in a vmware windows guest on a Leopard host. But for overall productivity, you can use Leopard native.

The underlying OS of Leopard is BSD unix.

And has anybody seen Linux Mint? It’s free, and provides a Vista-like “experience” without the Vista headaches.


19 posted on 01/12/2008 4:26:28 AM PST by Westbrook
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I love the Mac, Beautiful hardware, seamless operating system, Instant start up’s, support and training is almost unbelievable.
I will never go back.


21 posted on 01/12/2008 4:32:06 AM PST by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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Apple’s new operating system, which now also works on PCs,

Correction: Mac's new OS does NOT work on PC's...but Windoze OSes do work on some Macs. I think the writer got it backwards.

And only a foolish Mac user puts Vista on their machine! Well, ok, only a fool of either stripe puts Vista on anything but their "to avoid" list!

28 posted on 01/12/2008 4:51:16 AM PST by blu
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OK, so I'm a Mac guy, so take it whence it comes...

On my Mac Pro tower, I run OS X (10.4.11), Win XP, and Vista.

XP isn't so bad compared to OS X. OS X has more eye candy and is somewhat more intuitive. You have to learn more about the OS to use XP, but once you do that, it's snappy and responsive.

Vista, OTOH, is ponderous and slow (8 core quad processor Intel Xeon, 8GB of RAM). It's like driving a truck instead of a sportscar. And it's always inserting itself into what you're doing, by connecting to the internet, or asking you if you really want to do what you are trying to do, etc, etc.

I would think, for experienced XP folk, that Vista would be a step down.

30 posted on 01/12/2008 4:55:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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Just bought a new Dell Inspiron 1521 laptop. Vista installed on it. Took a racehorse and turned it into a nag.
will be installing OpenSuse 10.3 today.
Jack


34 posted on 01/12/2008 5:08:57 AM PST by btcusn
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10.5 is the greatest. My company has been Mac since 1984. We were laughed at by my friends. I got the last snicker.


40 posted on 01/12/2008 5:25:25 AM PST by primatreat ( Hold political and scientific idiots responsible by taking their money away!)
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Six billion dollars and they can not get it right.

First off, not everyone needs everything.

Design a basic OS.

Then give people the option to add the extra features they want or need.

Perhaps then the OS will not take up every bit of space in our computers and run slower then the previuos version.

I am not a "power user". I only need a basic OS. It irrates the hell out of me that it can take several minutes from the time I turn on my computer before it is ready for me to start using it (and do get me started on the several minute shut down which requires me to stand around and wait since every so often a file will not close and I have to close it manually.)

54 posted on 01/12/2008 6:00:04 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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We have Leopard and we love it. Macs are so fun and easy to use. Why buy anything else?


58 posted on 01/12/2008 6:08:35 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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I still remember in early 2002 people were griping about how Windows XP was so slow compared to older Windows versions, especially on older machines with under 512 MB of RAM. I think Windows Vista will be much better once most everyone's hardware catches up with what Windows Vista can do.

(For those who don't remember, Windows XP becomes usable once you reach 512 MB of RAM, and its "sweet spot" is about 1 GB of RAM.)

61 posted on 01/12/2008 6:09:39 AM PST by RayChuang88
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Vista is the greatest gift Microsoft has ever given Apple.

In the interest of full disclosure, I’m a steadfast Mac user. I am also proficient in Windows. Every time I have provide tech support for a Windows-using friend or family member who isn’t as tech-savvy as I am, i thank my lucky stars that I don’t have ti del with that crap every day.

Mac OS just works. I’m just saying.


65 posted on 01/12/2008 6:19:21 AM PST by ReignOfError
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Worst tech product of the century.


73 posted on 01/12/2008 6:28:56 AM PST by DaGman
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