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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

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To: onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Important .. ScribD FOIA Passport and Immigration correspondence and documents for Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham, Ann Soetoro and Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah) .. that name was suggested as possibly Bar ak Soetoro ... e.g., shortened from 3 into 1 name, in the PostEmail article above.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35189898/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10


9,081 posted on 08/03/2010 12:03:30 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

SOE…BAR…KA…H
SOETORO BAR-AK H.
“BARAK HUSSEIN SOETORO”

Isn’t there an A for Allah? ;~)

Also notice the addition of
her mother’s name to her complete name....Was she trying to cover for her mother applying for the BC in HI?


9,082 posted on 08/03/2010 4:20:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the links. Lots of reading to do this morning!


9,083 posted on 08/03/2010 5:52:48 AM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: STARWISE

I have not been able to follow the thread... what is the significance of this?


9,084 posted on 08/03/2010 7:43:50 AM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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To: Yosemitest
Shuo Cao Cao, Cao Cao jiu dao, says a Chinese proverb. It means: "Speak of Cao Cao, and Cao Cao will be there."

It's the equivalent of the English phrase "speak of the devil."

Soe-toro, So-toro, Suo-toro. The last name of a Japanese man and Indonesian citizen. Are those all the variant spellings? If you know of others please reply!

According to the Wikipedia page List of common Chinese surnames, the Chinese root name could be any of Xú, Sòng, Cáo, Xiāo, Sū, Shào. The suffix toro is, I think, most likely from the name of a common and ancient Japanese lantern of Chinese and Korean origin, a tōrō, which can also be spelled "doro".

9,085 posted on 08/03/2010 7:47:07 AM PDT by bvw
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To: STARWISE

Wow great stuff Star, thanks so much.


9,086 posted on 08/03/2010 9:08:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: STARWISE; onyx

Placemark with jaw dropped!


9,087 posted on 08/03/2010 10:08:14 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: STARWISE; hoosiermama; penelopesire

This is quite a morning of information!


9,088 posted on 08/03/2010 10:10:04 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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A MUST for the archives:

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18 September 2008

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Obama: Throwing Papua Under the Bus

In an article entitled “A Forgotten Cause”, Peter Tatchell sheds light on the plight of the West Papuans, many of whom are Christians and have suffered under Indonesia’s brutal policy of ethnic and religious persecution.

The untold story though is how the Obama campaign would sell out the West Papuans in a desperate attempt to protect Obama’s presidential bid.

On the 3rd of July 2007, U.S. Congressman Eni Faleomavaega would touch down in Jakarta, Indonesia. A staunch outspoken critic of Jakarta’s rule over West Papua, New Guinea and a crusader for West Papua’s right to self-determination, the chairman of the House Subcommittee on Asia, The Pacific and the Global Enviroment, Faleomavaega promised to be a force to be reckoned with.

Having been barred from visiting Papau by the Indonesian government, Faleomavaega would instead settle for a private meeting in Jakarta with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Barnabas Suebu the governor for the Indonesian province of Papau.

The Papuan issue though wasn’t the only thing on Faleomavaega’s mind, being one of Barack Obama’s most devoted disciples, Faleomavaega would be seeking the Indonesian government’s assistance in supporting Barack Obama’s presidential campaign as well as making the requisite pilgrimage to Barack Obama’s childhood school.

According to our Indonesian sources, “officials” who accompanied Faleomavaega were interested in acquiring any and all documentation or photographs of a young Barry Soetoro for America’s “national archives” and they were offering cash, lots of it.

In a show of faith, Barack Obama’s childhood school would be one of the very first beneficiaries of this outpouring receiving thousands of dollars to upgrade the school and for the purchase of computer equipment, thanks in part to the benevolence of this visiting junket.

The challenge of course was securing Indonesian goverment records potentially damaging to Barack Obama’s candidacy for the US presidency as well as other records pertaining to a young Barry Soetoro and his family wouldn’t be so easy to acquire and secure, and for this, the visitors would need the assistance and cooperation of the Indonesian government.

It’s not that getting Indonesian government help is difficult, it’s not. It’s no secret that Indonesia is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, but we’re not talking about the challenge of dealing with corrupt government officials here, but rather, dealing with the “true believers of change”.

Convincing the Indonesian government that an Obama presidency will be able to deliver that “change” and that it was in the interest of both countries to see that Barack Obama was elected was nothing more than a fait accompli for Faleomavaega’s entourage.

For West Papau’s governor in attendance, having been pacified at the prospect that an Obama presidency would enable him to make zillions trading carbon credits on the Chicago Climate Exchange, Barnabas Suebu would sit quietly as the fate of West Papau was decided.

The only issue of contention Faleomavaega would face from the Indonesian government would be the issue of West Papau. In the end, it was simply a give and take situation. The Obama campaign needed assistance from the Indonesian government and the Indonesian government wanted a free hand in Papau.

Later concerning Faleomavaega’s meeting, Indonesian presidential spokesman Dino Patti Djalal would have this to say: “One thing that is sure is that Faleomevaega’s visit here has changed his views about Indonesia. It has made him realize this country is so vast and complex it cannot be reduced by the Papua issue...” Dino said Faleomavaega was known as a US Congress member who often commented on the Papuan issue but now he had changed his views. “He now sees that Papua is inalienable part of the Unitary State of the Republic of Indonesia.”

Faleomevaega’s and meeting with Indonesia’s president regarding West Papau and his subsequent flipflop on supporting West Papau’s right to self-determination is something that you might think would warrant at least a press release on the congressman’s website, but there is nothing, nor is there any mention on the House Subcommittee’s site. No press release, nothing, not even a mere mention of his trip to Indonesia.

In the end, everyone got what they wanted, all to the detriment of the West Papuans.

The is no denying the fact that the prospects of an Obama presidency has emboldened the Indonesian government’s brutal repression in Papau. In an earlier article, we would explain in detail how an Obama presidency would stoke ethnic and religious chauvinism in Indonesia and how Indonesia’s Islamic fundamentalists will use an Obama presidency to radicalize a new contingent of militants from the ranks of Islam’s moderates.

Individuals who are mesmerized by the phantasmagorical image of one of their own now inhabiting the White House and who will see it as a sign of America’s impending submission and our nation’s acquiescence to the superiority of Islam.

Tee-shirts blazoned with messianic images of Barack Hussein Obama are already starting to replace the Osama Bin Laden tee-shirts that have been so popular in Indonesia. In Indonesia Barack Obama is fast becoming the “Che Guevara” of Indonesia’s young wannabe Islamists.

The Indonesian government is not only failing to protect the West Papuans from the violence of militant Islam, the government is actively stoking the fires of ethnic and religious chauvinism and supporting intimidation againstWest Papuans with many in recent days taking to the streets protesting the introduction of Islamic law.

For Indonesia’s national news agency to refer to the US government as the “George Bush administration” highlights the dichotomy of opposing foreign policy positions that are being both presented and exploited by the left. That Indonesia would feel it was safe to renew their campaign of brutal repression in Papau, in the last few months of the current administration, the diplomatic sabotage conducted by the Obama campaign is partially if not wholly responsible.

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-throwing-papau-under-bus.html


9,089 posted on 08/03/2010 11:07:09 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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Excerpt from Apuzzo’s site about the passports:

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Why I believe the July 19, 1965 issued passport was issued pursuant to a passport renewal application filed in 1965 for a prior passport that was expiring and that it was not the first passport that Stanley Ann Dunham had.

The issue date in July 19, 1965 is four months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965.

If she had applied for her first passport in the late spring or early summer of 1965 she would have had to legally apply for it in her married name, Stanley Ann Soetoro. The July 19, 1965 issued passport was not in her married name since she had to AMEND it in 1967 and show her marriage license to get her married name put on her passport at that time.

That is what the 1967 document states. And secondly, I believe it was a passport renewal application in 1965, because Obama’s family in Kenya says Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama was there when Obama was born and government officials in Kenya state Obama was born there. Stanley Ann would have needed a passport in 1961 to get to Kenya and back to the USA.

Since the 1965 passport was not in her 2nd marriage name when it was issued 4 months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro, it is obvious to me she simply renewed her previously issued circa early 1961 original passport which was in either her maiden name or in the name of her first marriage name of Stanley Ann Obama, if issued after Feb 1961 when she is said to have married Barack Hussein Obama Sr.

The copies of documents in what was released per the FOIA request are numbered but not in chronological order. This makes reading the file and the flow of events over time more difficult unless one prints out the file and rearranges the docs in chronological order, which I did.

There is a document numbered P3 which is an application for amendment of her existing passport. This amendment request was apparently done in 1967 (per a handwritten clerk’s name and date note on it since the date is not filled in below Stanley Ann’s signature on the form).

This handwritten annotated note and date was apparently done by a clerk seeing a marriage license in order to process the request to amend a passport issued on July 19, 1965. But the copy of that 1965 passport application is not provided in this FOIA request. The passport officials say it could not be found. Why?

That 1965 passport was issued several months after she married Lolo Soetoro. She filed the amendment apparently in 1967 allegedly to have it reflect her married name due to her name change after marrying Lolo Soetoro at Molokai Hawaii on March 15, 1965 per page marked P3 of the released documents.

Thus the conveniently missing application records for this 1965 passport implies to me that that there was something indicated in it that the powers to be did not want the public to see, i.e., that she had a passport prior to 1965 and the 1965 records indicated it was a Renewal application.

So someone made the 1965 application records disappear. The carefully worded cover letter with the FOIA release implies to me that earlier years records have been purged by someone at sometime for some reason since they could not find a record that should be there based on records they did find.

Was the 1965 passport issued done per a renewal request for a prior issued passport? As to the implication in the cover letter that early year data may have been cleaned out due to some records retention cut off date. I don’t buy that.

Since passport records are filed in files by name and not in boxes or files by year, this does not make sense. I was under the impression that passport records kept and filed by name were kept virtually forever. That wording sounded to me like bureaucratic obfuscation. It sounds to me like HI officials (or whoever controls them) are now instructing the U.S. Passport Office how to obfuscate and parse sentences in cover letters to allow them to not provide what one asks for and yet not be lying.

In my opinion, there was probably a passport issued to Stanley Ann (whatever name she used to get it) prior to 1965. The 1965 passport application record pointed to that. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear.

Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro-Passport Application File-Strunk v Dept of State-FOIA Release-FINAL-7-29-10.

This file indicates via the 1967 passport amendment application (document marked P3) that Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama had a passport for certain issued to her 1965 and she was applying to amend it. Thus she had one for sure in 1965.

Since her originally issued passport was good for up to 5 years, that means if the 1965 issued passport was a reissue of a passport to replace the original one that she had, but which was expiring, then she likely got her first passport possibly as early as late 1960 or early 1961.

How does all this fit the narrative to explain the information coming out of Africa and Kenya that Obama was born there? Why would she need a passport at age 18? She would not need it to have a baby in Hawaii or to go to college in Seattle Washington and back and forth to home in Hawaii. What was the real reason this pregnant 18 year old teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961?

I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised by the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle Washington. And then when Stanley Ann did not follow the plan because maternal instincts kicked in and she returned to college in Seattle WITH the new baby, grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961.

Listen to the Bill Cunningham Radio Show for how it was likely done:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ

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Also in this passport applications file is revealed the exact date of Stanley Ann’s marriage (two different exact dates and locations?) to Lolo Soetoro. But as is typical for everything with this family, nothing is consistent. In the 1967 amendment filing marked P3 she says she married Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965 in Molokai Hawaii.

But in a later passport renewal application marked P5 filed in 1981 she states she married him on March 5, 1964 in Maui, Hawaii. Which is true?

Either way, said marriage dates could have allowed for Obama to have been legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii at age 5 or under, given either of these marriage dates. And in addition, his falsified birth records in Hawaii, fraudulently created by grandma Dunham in 1961, could have been amended to show the new legal name of Barry Soetoro.

Obama was mentioned as a son over age 18 in the Soetoro 1980 Divorce file as a dependent of Lolo Soetoro and still receiving financial aid from Lolo Soetoro to attend college. And then later in life as an adult Obama could have amended his vital record in Hawaii again and changed his name back to Barack Hussein Obama II when at that time in his life that name suited him.

Obama is a life narrative chameleon. He changes names and citizenship at will during his life to suit his current needs and plans.

Also on document P1 signed in 1968, the second page of that document, she wrote in the block named “Amend to Include (Exclude) Children” the name of her son Barack Hussein Obama and then right below it a weird name or phrase spelled and in parenthesis as (Soebarkah).

This entry then has 5 diagonal line strike-through lines across the entry. Another mysterious new tidbit and question as to the meaning of that entry to research.

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/07/some-of-stanley-ann-dunham-obama.html

Some of the FOIA released documents

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35161730/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Soetoro-Passport-Application-File-Strunk-v-Dept-of-State-FOIA-Release-FINAL-7-29-10


9,090 posted on 08/03/2010 11:17:54 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Just wow!!!!!
But why the need?

How does all this fit the narrative to explain the information coming out of Africa and Kenya that Obama was born there? Why would she need a passport at age 18? She would not need it to have a baby in Hawaii or to go to college in Seattle Washington and back and forth to home in Hawaii. What was the real reason this pregnant 18 year old teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961?

I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised by the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle Washington. And then when Stanley Ann did not follow the plan because maternal instincts kicked in and she returned to college in Seattle WITH the new baby, grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961.


9,091 posted on 08/03/2010 11:24:18 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

It’s all (his past) a manufactured maze of smoke and mirrors .. obviously to cover something unfit for the light of day in their view. Crazy and confounding.


9,092 posted on 08/03/2010 11:26:55 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

btt


9,093 posted on 08/03/2010 11:39:19 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: STARWISE

Wow. That’s an excellent analysis. Thank you!

She wouldn’t have had to amend the name on her 1965 passport in 1968 if it had been filed as Ann Soetoro, her name when the 1965 passport went into effect. The only reason for it to have a last name other than Soetoro is if it was originally filed when she HAD a different name and she simply RENEWED it in 1965.

That’s why they wouldn’t show the application for the 1965 passport; it was an application for a RENEWAL and would have proven that she had a passport in 1960.

SOMEBODY POWERFUL enough to pull strings wanted (and got)that fact hidden. I wonder why...

Wow. These people are slime. Is there anybody who doesn’t realize that yet?


9,094 posted on 08/03/2010 11:43:08 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Danae

Just the official documentation some in the govt
have deemed acceptable to release from the dim,
dark and manufactured past of .. it. ;)


9,095 posted on 08/03/2010 12:16:56 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: rolling_stone

Did you see this?


9,096 posted on 08/03/2010 12:21:18 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: STARWISE

I am not familiar with how names are assigned in Indonesia. For what it’s worth, Lolo’s name appears here as

Lolo Soetoro Mangundikardjo

I assume Mangundikardjo was his father’s name.

Lolo’s father and eldest brother were killed during the Indonesian National Revolution, when Indonesia won independence from the Dutch. The family’s home was burned to the ground by the Dutch army. Lolo fled with his mother.

Also, I had not seen this article before (2006). It is roughly translated from Indonesian.

http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2006/bulan/07/tgl/06/time/100044/idnews/630159/idkanal/10

Like Scouts, Frequently For Chocolate
Arifin Asydhad - detikNews Arifin Asydhad - DAILY

Jakarta - Jakarta - Junino John (47) including a friend who has a memorable impression with Barack Obama in childhood. During the past week, Junino always remembered by his friend, known by the name of Barry’s. And not unexpectedly, Junino find stories about his little friend in the news AFP. “I really remember him being the last few weeks. I know Barack Obama announces AFP. But, I remember that Barack is not Barry. When there are articles on SD Besuki, I just remembered that Barack was Barry, a close friend of mine, “said Junino. Junino friends with Barry because one school in SD (Experiment) 04 Besuki, Central Jakarta. Indeed, no one class Junino with Barry. Junino one class above Barry. “As I recall, he was in fifth grade, I was in sixth grade. But, if no one lho ya,” said Junino. But, according Junino, it could be her fifth grade, while Barry’s fourth grade. According to information Onny Padmo, Barry’s classmate, in 1971, Barry entered fourth grade and only one year. When Onny grade 5, Barry is not there anymore. Junino near Barry knows when equally active in the Boy Scouts. “I am familiar in the Scouts. At that time, we have been in raising,” I am a man who is currently Deputy Internal Monitoring Corruption Eradication Commission (KPK) is currently talking to AFP on Thursday (06/07/2006). Barry including children like the Boy Scouts. Ropes activities, singing, and so always follow. “It’s just that he keteteran if there are physical activities, such as running. She was a bit slow, because his body is very fat. Once so fat,” said one of his former directors at PT Indosat this. That is not forgotten, every Barry follow the Boy Scouts at school, always bring food. Barry Barry’s mother always equip with good foods, like chocolate. “While in school, Barry was often handed out chocolates to me and my friends,” recalled Junino. In the eyes Junino, Barry is a child who emphasizes discipline. When the time came home from school, Barry went home, did not play like kids my age at the time. Maybe this is also the influence of parents’ education. Barry’s mother, Ann Dunham is a Caucasian from the United States, and his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo an army colonel who was also clerk in Pertamina. “Everyone went and came home from school, Barry was always delivered and picked up by her mother,” said Junino. The first time you know Barry, Junino and friends also had to wonder, why why Barry and black curly hair, although she them Caucasian, his father was an Indonesian. At that time, Junino and his friends did not know that Barry is the real father of Kenya, Africa who is black. Make friends with Barry, said Junino, quite enjoyable. Easy-going person. Barry is very good at hanging out. Junino recall, the Indonesian language Barry is also pretty good. “We speak Indonesian anyway,” he said. Barry is also a humorist, like the joke, just fun. We will leave Indonesia, Barry could deliver parting words to his friends. “I want to move to America. I hope to see you again,” Barry said at the time. According Junino, goodbye that’s the very last he heard. After Barry moved to America, Junino never communicate again. Barry is also information about Junino never get. He also just learned that Barry is now a U.S. senator. “Bener friendly guy. But first, take it easy man, far from a serious impression,” he said. As a close friend, Junino also hoping Barry can come to Indonesia. “I have trouble getting contact him. Hopefully he can come to Indonesia and we can meet again,” please Junino. Description Photo: Barry called jaunty. Barry’s style when meeting his supporters. Keturuan supporters not only people of Africa, but also white people.


9,097 posted on 08/03/2010 12:37:21 PM PDT by Faith
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To: STARWISE

That Stanley Anne must have been one hot little tart in her day...


9,098 posted on 08/03/2010 12:52:35 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
Post 9098! yowzers! This thread has some legs!
9,099 posted on 08/03/2010 12:55:09 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

Yay .. 9100 !

;)


9,100 posted on 08/03/2010 12:56:57 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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