Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
More on Abercrombie http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2648454/posts
For the Archives, for whatever they’re worth, pre-possible-scrubbing:
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Obama practices Islam half-heartedly, irregularly attending prayer services at the mosque. According to one of his Indonesian school principals, Tine Hahiyary, the young Obama studies “Mangaji” (or “Mengagi”), which involves the recitation of the Quran.
Note that Mangaji, in Indonesian schools, requires learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language, and not the student’s native tongue. Non-Muslims or even moderate Muslims would not send their child to Mangaji classes; it is much more involved that a Christian child attending “Sunday School” class. (Many Indonesians, in fact, wonder why Obama is hiding his Muslim past.) [15,251,332,336]
A former classmate of Obama in Indonesia, Rony Amiris, in 2007, describes Obama as having enjoyed football, playing marbles, and being a very devout Muslim. Amir said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.” Classmate Emirsyah Satar stated that Obama “was often in the prayer room wearing a sarong.” Obama was often observed in the school’s prayer room and at the local mosque for traditional Friday prayers. [332,521]
Publicly, Obama denies he ever was a Muslim and claims he is a devout Christian. (He also alleges he was never in church when his pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, was spewing anti-white and anti-American rhetoric in his sermons.)
Many, if not most, of the world’s Muslims feel that “Obama may not want to be counted as a Muslim but Muslims are eager to count him as one of their own.” One Obama problem may be that if he is seen by radical Islamists as someone who denounced the Muslim religion to become a Christian, his background can be exploited to “argue that an apostate is leading the war on terror…” which can then help terrorists “…galvanize (additional) sympathizers into action.” [252]
If it is assumed that Obama is legally adopted by his Indonesian step-father, Lolo Soetoro, Obama becomes an Indonesian citizen, according to Indonesian law.
Because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, Obama thus loses his U.S. citizenship when he becomes an Indonesian citizen, in or about 1967.
At this point Obama also ceases to be a Kenyan citizen, according to Indonesian and Kenyan law. Ann Dunham would have been required to renounce her U.S. citizenship, under Indonesian law, for her marriage to Lolo Soetoro to be considered legal in Indonesia. If, after Obama returned to Hawaii, he applied for and was granted American citizenship, he would be a naturalized citizen (like California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger) and not a natural-born citizen, and would therefore be ineligible to serve as President of the U.S.
It is possible that Obama did not even bother to become a naturalized citizen of the United States, and remains an Indonesian citizen. Appropriate federal records would exist if Obama made application for naturalization; if they exist, they have not been made public. [258,300,305,492]
Note that Indonesia’s policy of not allowing dual citizenship must be respected by the United States, in accordance with the Hague Convention of 1930. Note also that Obama, as a child, was not required to personally renounce his U.S. citizenship; that could have been accomplished for him by his mother. [492]
Note also that, according to Indonesian legal experts, it is difficult for non-Indonesian citizens to enroll in public schools in that country; this further supports the assumption that Obama was adopted by Soetoro. Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro, has also stated that Obama was adopted by her father. [329]
In 1967, Oginga Odinga, a comrade of Obama’s father and possibly his brother-in-law, is arrested in Kenya for holding a rally that turns into a riot. In 2006, candidate Obama supports Odinga’s son, socialist Raila Odinga, in his run for the Presidency in Kenya. [271]
1971-1979
In 1971 or 1972, Obama is sent back to Hawaii to live with his mother’s parents; his mother remains in Indonesia. (Dunham likely traveled with Obama to Hawaii, and then promptly returned to Indonesia without him, but with his half-sister, Maya Soetoro.)
Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham (1918-1992), manages a furniture store, and his grandmother, Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham (b. 1922), is a bank vice-president. [16,289,324,329]
In December of 1971, Barack Obama, Sr. returns to Hawaii to attend a party and visit with former University friends Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane. Obama, Sr. apparently spends very little time with his son during that visit.
A few photographs of Obama, Sr., Ann Dunham, and Obama, Jr. are taken at the airport. Note that in later years, Abercrombie state they have no recollection of ever seeing Ann Dunham and Barack Obama, Sr. together. Abercrombie later becomes Hawaii’s first district’s Congressman and member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus; he works openly with the Democratic Socialists of America. [527,562]
Obama’s maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, age 86, still resides in Hawaii. The Obama campaign has kept her off-limits, and prohibits interviews with her. (Note: Madelyn Dunham dies on November 3, 2008, the day before the election.) [329,515]
Aside from a few visits to Hawaii, Ann Dunham spends most of the rest of her life based in Indonesia, but she travels extensively, to Ghana, Thailand, Nepal, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and China. Dunham took her daughter Maya with her on a 1986 trip along China’s “silk road.” Dunham returns to Hawaii before her death in 1995. [329,614]
While in Indonesia, Dunham spent time in Yogyakarta, where she studied native handicrafts; she eventually returned to the University of Hawaii to receive a 1992 PhD in anthropology, and wrote a dissertation “Peasant Blacksmithing in Indonesia: Surviving and Thriving Against All Odds.”
Dunham’s employment included teaching English at the American embassy in Jakarta, consulting for U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), “program officer” work for the Ford Foundation, some form of consulting work in Pakistan, and employment with Women’s World Banking.
Note that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is alleged to have used both the USAID and the Ford Foundation as “front” agencies.
Whether Dunham had any CIA connections is unknown, but it is also unclear how Dunham could afford a life of globe-trotting and post-graduate education without significant employment. Note that Dunham was passingly fluent in Urdu (the national language of Pakistan) and several other languages, something the CIA would find valuable. [607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615]
After returning to Hawaii and upon turning age 18, Obama could possibly have relinquished his Indonesian citizenship and become a naturalized U.S. citizen, with the proper paperwork filed through the U.S. State Department and by swearing an oath of allegiance to the United States. It is believed that Obama did not do so. [258,300,301]
If Obama did not relinquish his Indonesian citizenship and become a naturalized U.S. citizen, he remains an Indonesian citizen, and has not been a U.S. citizen since being adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia in 1966 or 1967. Thus, he is ineligible to be President of the United States. (He is also ineligible to be a United States Senator.)
Obama’s repeated failure to provide documentation to prove he is a U.S. citizen suggests to many that it does not exist, and he is therefore possibly perpetrating a colossal fraud on the 300 million citizens of the United States.
Obama may, in fact, be an illegal resident alien, subject to expulsion from the United States Senate, arrest, and deportation to Indonesia. Obama could also be subject to a massive class action fraud lawsuit by everyone who made donations to his campaign (over $600 million), under the mistaken belief that he was eligible to serve as President. [258,300]
Obama attends the elite, expensive, private Punahou High School (1971-1979). The school is racially diverse and whites are not in the majority. The young Obama is sometimes called “Barry the Butt” (because he was pudgy in his earlier years). In public schools in Hawaii (but perhaps not at the Punahou private school) is traditionally known as “Kill Haole Day” (“Kill Whitey Day”), where Caucasian students are beaten up, usually in the school bathrooms. [16,17,324]
Because of his drug abuse, Obama’s grades are poor in his final two years of high school. Obama later writes that “Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though.” (Note: by “blow,” Obama means cocaine; “smack” means heroin.)
His grades may also have been affected by peer pressure, as his “choom gang” friends on the basketball court and football field would likely have teased him for having good grades. His jock friends are known as “choomers” (smokers), who smoked pakalolo (pot) and drank beer (alcohol could be legally purchased at age 18 in Hawaii). Obama also sang in a school chorale group. [18,575]
Bryon Leong, a former classmate of Obama’s at Punahou, states that Obama “…was known as a partier, as a guy looking for a good time, but not much more,” and, “There was pot in Hawaii in the 1970s, but it wasn’t a big deal.” [332]
Dunham leaves Soetoro in 1972 and returns to Hawaii. She divorces Soetoro in 1980. [289]
Ann Dunham rarely sees Obama after 1975. [324]
By his own admission, Obama’s high school grades are not exemplary; rather than do homework, he reads the works of black authors like James Baldwin (who believed that America was hopelessly irredeemable), communists Richard Wright, Langston Hughes, Ralph Ellison, and W.E.B. DuBois, and civil rights activist Malcolm X (who was killed in 1965, and whose history led Obama to write in “Dreams From My Father” that “Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me”). [20,190,558]
High school friend Keith Kakugawa relates later that Obama “…made everything out like it was all racial.” After Obama complains about being picked on at the basketball court because of his race, Kakugawa’s father tells Obama, “No, Barry, it’s not because you’re black, it’s because you missed two shots in a row.” [20]
While a teenager in Hawaii, Obama spends considerable time with Frank Marshall Davis (whose identity Obama hides by describing him only as “Frank” in his book, “Dreams From My Father”). Davis is a dope-smoking drinking buddy of Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Dunham; Dunham and Davis had known each other in Kansas.
Obama had met Davis shortly after arriving in Hawaii, at age 10, but was most influenced by him during his high school years. In place of his absent father and stepfather, Davis becomes Obama’s mentor. [19,21,389]
Davis is a member of the Communist Party of the USA, a poet, propagandist, “bitter opponent of capitalism,” and radical agitator; in 1948, Davis had fled Chicago after the FBI and the House Un-American Activities Committee investigated his subversive anti-American activities.
Davis is also a bi-sexual, sex pervert, child molester (bragging of repeated sexual encounters with a 13 year-old girl), and pornographer, and is the author of the book “Sex Rebel: Black” under the pseudonym Bob Greene. Davis “…would cruise in Hawaii parks looking for couples or female tourists to have sex with. He derived sexual gratification from bondage, simulated rape and being flogged and urinated on. He boasted that ‘the number of white babes interested in at least one meeting with a Negro male has been far more than I can handle’ and wished ‘America were as civilised as, say, Scandinavia.’” He concluded: ‘I regret none of my experiences or unusual appetites; for me they are normal.’” [21,259,261]
Obama joins Davis at his home on most evenings, shares alcohol and drugs, is tutored in socialism, and taught not to trust the white establishment. “They’ll train you so good,” Davis said, “you’ll start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that shit.” Davis teaches Obama, “Black people have a reason to hate” and “You may be a well-trained, well-paid nigger, but you’re a nigger just the same.” [22,33,261]
Davis sometimes works as a street vendor, selling hot dogs from his Chicago-style wheeled cart near his home in Waikiki. From the cart Davis also sells drugs (marijuana and cocaine), frequently accompanied by Obama and his grandfather. Davis is the main source of drugs used by Obama while in high school. [429]
It is believed that Davis was a close friend of Thomas Ayers (father of William Ayers) in Chicago, and that it was Davis who encouraged Obama to attend Columbia College in New York and hook up with William Ayers. [259]
Davis’ Marxist-inspired poetry includes lines like, “Smash on, victory-eating Red Army!” Titles of his poems include, “Christ is a Dixie Nigger.” [261]
In Davis’ autobiography, he writes of his seduction of a young white girl, age 13, named “Anne.” This fuels speculation that the “Anne” in Davis’ book is Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and that Obama may actually be the child of Frank Marshall Davis. Obama’s grandfather and Davis were close friends, but there is no hard evidence that Obama’s father was Davis.
When Ann Dunham moved to Hawaii with her parents in 1959 or 1960 she was already age 16 or 17. Davis had known the Dunhams in Kansas, however, so Davis would have had contact with Ann Dunham before she moved to Hawaii. The Dunhams also lived in Seattle, where Ann Dunham attended the very liberal Mercer Island High School. There is speculation that Davis had been in Seattle, doing organizing work for the communist-infiltrated International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU); that may have placed Davis with Dunham when she was 13.
The ILWU is linked to the Honolulu Recorder, the newspaper Davis worked for in Hawaii. Lastly, nude photos of a woman purported to be Ann Dunham and alleged to have been taken by Frank Marshall Davis are circulating on the Internet, but faked photos are not terribly difficult to produce using computers. [21,259,260,365,370,389]
This Davis-as-father speculation is listed here only to provide the reader with as much information as possible about Obama’s background; it is not meant as an endorsement of the speculation itself. If additional information is obtained which confirms or refutes the speculation, it will be presented here.
Some have noted that Frank Marshall Davis’ son, Mark Davis, bears a reasonable resemblance to candidate Obama, and what some would consider a stronger resemblance than shared by Obama Jr. and Obama Sr.
The mother of Mark Davis, Helen Canfield, was, like Ann Dunham, a white woman. One could speculate that Obama’s father was not Barack Obama, Sr., but Frank Marshall Davis. Because Davis and Ann Dunham could certainly not have let that relationship be known (Davis was married and age 55, Dunham was only 17, and Davis was Stanley Dunham’s friend), Dunham may have convinced Obama, Sr. that he was the father-to-be.
When he, Obama, Sr., later learned that was not the case, he abruptly left Dunham, moved on to Harvard and then returned to Kenya. There has been speculation that Dunham and Obama, Sr. never actually lived together in Hawaii and never got married; this speculation is supported by the fact that Obama, Sr. continued to attend the University of Hawaii, while Dunham attended the University of Washington during late 1961 and early 1962, before returning to Hawaii to again attend UH. [369,408]
If the Davis-as-father speculation is true, Dunham may have continued the lie for the benefit of her son and her own parents. Davis would later be eager to be Obama’s mentor if he was, in fact, Obama’s father. Obama may not have learned the true identity of his father for some time, perhaps not until after the death of his grandfather, Stanley Dunham in 1992.
It was not until after his grandfather’s death that Obama began work on his book, “Dreams From My Father.” At that point he may have understood who his real father was. His book needed to include the “Kenyan history” in order to continue the charade for his planned political career, but the “dreams” Obama needed to pursue had more to do with a continuation of Davis’ legacy.
It is worth noting also that Obama’s reluctance to give financial support to his poverty-stricken half-brother George, in a Nairobi slum, or to his destitute aunt in Boston, may be due to his knowing that they are not actually related to him at all.
This is speculation based only on photographs and circumstantial evidence; the disclosure of appropriate original documentation by Obama would resolve unanswered questions and end speculation. The remainder of this timeline continues with the assumption that the father of Barack Obama, Jr. was Kenyan Barack Obama, Sr. [369]
There is also speculation that Obama is the son of the civil right activist, Malcolm X (Malcolm Little), who was murdered in 1965, allegedly by members of the Nation of Islam.
(Ann Dunham graduated from high school in the Seattle area in 1960, and Malcolm X formed the Nation of Islam Temple No. 67 in Seattle that same year, and was a guest speaker at various universities, including the University of Washington.)
It is not difficult to see that Obama resembles Malcolm X much more than he resembles Barack Obama, Jr., but a resemblance is of course not the same as hard evidence.
Perhaps the truth will never be known without the release of original birth records or DNA testing… and the likelihood of that is minimal. Dunham was already in Hawaii, however, when she became pregnant in late 1960. In order for Malcolm X to be the father, he had to have been in Hawaii in late 1960 or Dunham had to leave Hawaii to be with him; no evidence of either circumstance has been produced. [524,526,527]
Note that the Malcolm-X-as-father scenario would, however, explain why Obama seemed to be “looked after” – both financially and otherwise – throughout his college years. Obama would later receive a letter of recommendation for Harvard from Percy Sutton, who was Malcolm X’s attorney. Khalid al-Mansour (aka “Donald Warden”) becomes the main financial backer for Obama; al-Mansour has been a close associate of Nation of Islam (NOI) leader Louis Farrakhan, and Malcolm X, who was the national spokesman for NOI.
It is not unreasonable to assume that, if Obama was indeed the son of Malcolm X, those who were close to the civil rights leader would “look after him” in any way possible, making sure he was taught in the ways of Islam and socialism, funded by Arab and Syrian financiers.
Obama’s benefactors would include Tony Rezko, Percy Sutton, Khalid al-Mansour, Muhammadian Mian Soomro, Rashid Khalidi, Edward Said, and William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who would have known Malcolm X and associates like Black Panther members Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. Note also that a close neighbor of Obama’s in Chicago is Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. Malcolm X split with the Nation of Islam partly over the issue of the illegitimate children of its leader, Elijah Muhammed. If Malcolm X then fathered his own illegitimate child (Obama), he would have had to cover that up in order to retain his reputation of being “above the fray,”- and to protect his son from the criminal record, death threats, and violence he himself experienced.
Barack Obama, Sr., who Malcolm X had met in Kenya, became the fall guy. Many pieces of the puzzle would fit – and the Obama birth certificate is one of the key pieces.
That the father of candidate Obama was someone other than Barack Obama, Sr. is speculation. Right or wrong, therefore, the remainder of this timeline continues with the assumption that the father of Barack Obama, Jr. was Kenyan Barack Obama, Sr.
More
http://truthspeaktoday.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/barack-hussein-obama-timeline/#comments
and
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html
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Barack Hussein Obama Srs trip to Honolulu in Dec 1971 was bracketed by two trips that Obama’s old snack bar friends from the University of Hawaii made to see him in Kenya. Late in 1968, Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane traveled through Nairobi on a year-long backpacking trip around the world and stayed with Obama for several days before they made their way on to the port city of Mombasa and to India.
No mention was made of Stanley Ann Dunham or Barack Hussein Obama Jr. Neil Abercrombie is now Hawaii States 1st district Representative in the US Congress. He is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus who until 1999, worked in open partnership with Democratic Socialists of America.
Pake Zane runs a store called Antique Alley in Hawaii. Although in the 1960s Hawaii offered a diverse cultural mix, native Hawaiian Pake Zane recalls that He (Obama Sr.) was the first real black man I ever met.
(see pics at link)
Neil Abercrombie Pake Zane
The sad truth for Barack Hussein Obama Jr, is that Obama Sr didnt return to Hawaii in December 1971 to see his son, but rather to go party with his friends Neil and Pake. That is why there arent any pictures of Obama Jr. with his dad as an infant, nor are there any pictures of the Dunham grandparents and Obama Sr.
Sadly the only picture from when Obama Jrs dad returned to Hawaii is at the airport while Obama Sr. waited for his luggage. Stanley Ann Dunham was absolutely determined to continue the charade. Ann and Barack Jr. took turns taking pictures of themselves with Obama Sr.
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2008 Comment re: Obama longtime friend, Bobby Titcomb
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Hey Frankie K
Nice try. You might have gotten away with your blatant lying in your illustrious career in Honolulu law enforcement but it does not work in the real world.
Just by posting a lame defense of Titcomb and denying what is public record doesn’t necessarily make your denials true. Maybe that’s why you waited so long to come to Bobby’s defense. Perhaps you were too busy working overtime in your security guard job or thought that you would wait to respond until no one would see your post or my reply.
Since you are aching for a scrap and could not just leave well enough alone, I have an answer to your question about taking it up with Titcomb personally.
What do you think these posts are here for ?? Tell Titcomb to quit hiding behind your skirt and come forth RIGHT HERE and defend himself. I’d be happy to go one on one with him in this forum.
What is he afraid of ? I’ll tell you what - the truth about his past and revelations about him and his good “best” friend Barry Obama.
I have nothing personal against a loser like Titicomb who ruined many young lives and I do have personal first-hand knowledge of many, many of Titcomb’s exploits from 1977 to 1990. From his drug using and dealing in high school thru the decade later where he was notorious in the Honolulu club scene and his hair-trigger drug-induced temper.
Since you like act big and profess to be one of the corrupt old-boy judiciary here in Hawai`i you might want to enlighten us on the inner world of Hawai`i law enforcement and judiciary during the years of 1960 to 1990 when corruption ran rampant.
By the way, these forums are not blogging you ignoramus.
Finally, the fact that Barry Obama maintains his friendship with Bobby Titcomb speaks a lot about Barry’s character especially since Barry has now had ample time to do a thorough backround check on Titcomb since my first post in August.
Not just Titcomb but many other of Barry’s enduring friendships with persons of highly questionable character have caused me to now cast my vote against him.
http://www.topix.com/forum/state/il-gov/TMPHV6L6HKD8EPDO3/p8
Two trips that Obama [Senior]’s old snack bar friends from the University of Hawaii made to see him in Kenya. Late in 1968, Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane traveled through Nairobi on a year-long backpacking trip around the world and stayed with Obama for several days ... No mention was made of Stanley Ann Dunham or Barack Hussein Obama Jr. ...I remembered this material from reading it months ago. Thanks a whole lot for retrieving it.The sad truth for Barack Hussein Obama Jr, is that Obama Sr didnt return to Hawaii in December 1971 to see his son, but rather to go party with his friends Neil and Pake. ... The only picture from when Obama Jrs dad returned to Hawaii is at the airport while Obama Sr. waited for his luggage. Stanley Ann Dunham was absolutely determined to continue the charade. Ann and Barack Jr. took turns taking pictures of themselves with Obama Sr.
At this time I suspect that Abercrombie's comments in re the birth issue and Chris Matthew's recent demand for it are part of some scheme co-ordinated by Axelrod as part of Obama's re-election. See for example yesterday's CBS Political HotSheet article, Report: Obama to Run 2012 Campaign from Chicago
Without a doubt there is a follow-on well-crafted and planned fraud afoot to preempt all state legislative afforts to demand birth documentation. This will involve bribery, threats and fraudulent documents.
WOW.
You know, it still amazes me... everything you posted here has been known by us here at FR since 2008. It came in drips and drabs over a couple of years... when put all together like this, it is an utter wonder the MSM has NOT published the story and or at least seriously investigated it. It is almost CRIMINAL they have not to be honest.
The mentions by the NY Times on this issue, and that of Pissy Matthews.... the Obama White House MUST be utterly incapable of stopping the knocking of their own knees.
I hope Valerie is thoroughly enjoying the state of Panic, because oh man... the dam is about to let go, and she is right under it.
Yes, I think you are correct. A Fradulent Birth Certificate is about to show up.
And oh how it will be paraded down Pensylvania Ave, for ALL to see...
Not buying it Barry.
Heh ...
Somehow, Abercrombie apparently has the notion
that the stand he’s making in HI will somehow
affect what other states do to purify the election
process by demanding actual proof of candidate
eligibility.
I pray he’s dead wrong.
Alumni Corner
Barack Obama ’83, My Columbia College Roommate
By Phil Boerner ’84
Excerpt:
I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommate at Columbia College in fall 1981. I met him in 1979, when we were freshmen at Occidental College (Oxy) in Los Angeles and our dorm rooms were directly opposite each other.
http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner
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Columbia COLLEGE, part of the prestigious COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY ..
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=chr-ober&type=pogo&p=columbia+college
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_College_of_Columbia_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University
You can’t trust wiki for a second, can you? I checked their REFERENCES - and not one of them refers to zero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_College_of_Columbia_University
I showed those to indicate that Columbia College (where
his apparent former roommate says he attended) and
Columbia University are separately identified.
And
Columbia College is also the name of many schools
across the country, not connected to Columbia University,
as far as I know.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=chr-ober&type=pogo&p=columbia+college
Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie "told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser: 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,'"
Perhaps hennie pennie was referring to this thread, also known as "The Long Thread".
Occasionally, this thread disappears, but keep trying, it will appear again, reminiscent of The Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland.
Beckwith's blog will bring you up to date, too:
Perhaps hennie pennie was referring to this thread, also known as "The Long Thread".
Occasionally, this thread disappears, but keep trying, it will appear again, reminiscent of The Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland.
Beckwith's blog will bring you up to date, too:
Thank you very much!
APNewsBreak: Hawaii won’t release Obama birth info
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 21, 2011 | MARK NIESSE
Posted on January 21, 2011 10:18:57 PM EST by Free ThinkerNY
HONOLULU (AP) — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it’s against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.
(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2661326/posts
January 11, 2011 – The White Hat Report #8 – The end of Obama’s Presidency
OBAMA’S PRESIDENCY TERMINATED?
From the moment Barrack Hussein Obama announced he was a candidate for the office of the President, his credentials have been under constant and considerable scrutiny by the finest Constitutional legal minds in our Country.
As President, in each of the legal challenges presented to the Supreme Court, the legal question presented is not what the Honorable Court preferred to hear or the case of the Plaintiff was not proper and deemed not to have “standing” or “merit”. As always, the Court was positioning to hear the correct positions and arguments, so the Court could opine and rest the matter forever. The longer the proper legal challenges took to develop, the more difficult it would be to unwrap all of the damage that Obama, and his special interest groups, would bestow on the American people and the international community (i.e. Obama’s totally ignorant comment from the White House podium declaring the French are America’s closest ally. This ignorant statement insults Great Britain and the rest of our most important allies and relationships).
The continual thread of the legal arguments is relative to Obama’s required constitutional credentials. Specifically, if he meets the eligibility requirements to be the President of the United States of America as defined in the Constitution. Apparently, Obama’s political tricksters, the special interests groups, the Chicago and the D.C. Beltway groups, which tilt their heads to the Obama faction, thought they could hijack America and out fox all of the Americans that hold the Constitution close to their heart. The Supreme Court heard each case brought before it, rendered an opinion and moved on to the next case. All of the previous cases have been denied for lack of ‘Standing’ or being ‘Frivolous’.
As we stated in our last report, about 18 months ago at a college public speaking engagement, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts was confronted by Dr. Orly Taitz with a suitcase of 350,000 confirmed signatures from World Net Daily and other sources. Dr. Taitz asked the Supreme Court to hear the complaints about Obama’s required credentials including his status as a natural born citizen of the United States of America since he was not properly vetted for the Presidency due to the wrangling of Obama’s special interest friends. Chief Justice Roberts promised Dr. Taitz publicly he would review the information. It appears that Roberts kept his promise as the matter was heard before the Supreme Court Justices on Friday, January 7th, 2011.
The outcome of this single case has been in the specter of legal scholars for many months as the target issue lies within the confines of the Article Two, Section One of the Constitution of the United States of America, as quoted below:
“Qualifications. The President must be a ‘natural born citizen’ of the United States,
at least 35 years old … “
If we break this down to its simplest common denominator and confine the argument to the true meaning of the Founding Fathers, Obama’s mother, upon the conception Barrack Hussein Obama, was married to a verified Kenyan citizen, meaning he does not have the blood of two (2) verifiable citizens of the United States of America. Not only do we have the records but so do all of the National Security agencies charged with protecting American interests by the letter of the law. As of this date, the issue of Obama’s citizenship status has become a National Security matter due to the wrangling of a group of people attempting to keep their candidate in office at all costs. For the record, and to this date, the American public and the Supreme Court have yet to receive the answers required to this question and Obama has yet to provide his long-form birth certificate and answer other Interrogatories.
In the Supreme Court, the test for Obama, his cronies and this Administration, is for Obama to prove that he is a Natural born Citizen. Obama can’t do that as he has a Certified Birth Certificate in Kenya and ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ from the State of Hawaii. Herein lays the quandary for Obama, his cronies and the Court. Obama does not have the ability to prove and cannot provide a certified document providing for a true birth certificate for any of the American states. The only record of his birth is in Kenya.
From extremely high and very credible sources within the Judicial system, it has been reported that Obama and his legal team lost their arguments to have this case dismissed. The Court heard the applicable arguments from each side and held, in short form; the Obama did not meet the residency requirements as set forth in the Constitutional of the United States of America. A preliminary vote in favor of the Plaintiff was taken, with Associate Justice Elena Kagan not voting due to her previous political relationship and involvement with Obama’s birth certification issues.
The Supreme Court is holding on to the decision and will not publish its decision for the sake of the American political process. What does this mean and why would they choose this path?
Notwithstanding the difficulty before the Judicial system as to what to do with an unlawfully sitting President, the real problem comes after the fact. This President has been sitting in the office illegally for two (2) years while propagating conjecture about American life and liberty, pushing his agenda, signing bills into law, issuing Executive Orders and trying to act as a real President. It is for this reason that all of the American Security agencies consider this single item a National Security matter with the single question: How do you control an out of control person acting as President?
Although the Court has not recorded or published their finding, there is already disinformation being propagated that the Court ruled in favor of Obama. This is not true.
SCENARIOS FOR POSSIBLE SUCCESSORS
With the Court opinion in hand and everyone attempting to make sense of the underlying issues to be addressed, our analysis, based on what we have reported previously, is that any person in a position for an executive seat is a named party in criminal allegations of bank fraud, theft, unauthorized usage of government assets, etc. Review previous White Hat reports. The proof of these allegations exists. Hence, we know the following:
1. The Supreme Court is holding on to its decision and not publishing due to the damage it would do.
2. It has been opined that Obama in the near future will resign from the Office of The Presidency. The political machine is now determining how to spin his resignation so the American people can grasp something simpler than he never had the credentials to serve as President. The reason will not be his birth certificate issue.
3. The Supreme Court will publish their findings after Obama’s resignation is detailed to the American people. Once Obama resigns the Supreme Court can simply dismiss the case and avoid any embarrassment of the parties.
4. One possible scenario would be for Biden to step down first, due to his well publicized participation with George Bush Senior, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Mitt Romney in the theft of Falcone’s funds or due to the political spin of his alleged brain cancer... whichever works best. Obama will appoint Hillary Clinton as Vice President. Obama steps down and Hillary becomes President. The Clinton machine has always wanted Hillary as President. If this happens, the information on the funds she has stolen will become exposed. The funds that Hillary took are substantially greater than the amount Biden took. Remember that Hillary bribed Biden per Bush Senior’s request.
5. Obama could resign first and allow Biden to become President. Biden would then appoint a new Vice President, but this appointment would have to be approved by both Congresses. This option seems less likely, but is certainly possible since the White House has been trying to enhance Biden’s image. The criminal allegations against Joseph Biden are too great to allow him to become President.
It is our sincere desire for all individuals to understand the monumental issues stated above and, in concert, with all of the information contained in our previous reports. We have stated that the Executive branch of the government has failed us. Will Congress, fail us, too? Or will they do their duty, keep their responsibility to their constituents and honor their oath to the Constitution and protect America from enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC?
We have heard from Americans and people from all walks of life including people from other countries who are wondering what has happened to the United States of America. Our purpose has been to inform the public and expose the corruption that threatens our freedoms, both now and in the future. Therefore, we implore you to contact your Senators and Representatives. Let them hear your voice and let your voice hold weight. Tell them your opinion. Hold your elected officials accountable for every act they perform on your behalf!!
View the Obama Birth Certificate here: http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/p/obama-birth-certificate-file.html
NOTE: WE URGE ALL TO HOLD YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY ACTION THEY TAKE!
http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2011/01/january-11-2011-white-hat-report-8-end.html
Calpernia, this is way late, but if you have any more information that you can share about a few people who looked for birth announcements for Obama and hadn’t found any, please Freepmail me. I am certain that all the announcement images made public are forgeries, and I’m trying to find out exactly WHEN the microfilms at the Hawaii State Library were actually changed out.
For the archives
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David Toot (1726-1792) and his son George Toot (1759-1815) of Middletown, PA, both served in the Revolutionary War. David was cited for patriotic service and George served as a private. George’s mother was Catherine _(?)_. He had three wives: 1) Mary _(?)_, 2) Catharine Stetler/Shulze and 3) Ann Eve Parthemore.
President Obama descends from George’s daughter, Anna Maria Toot, who married Ludwig/Lewis Wolfley in 1805 in York Co., PA; they settled in Ohio
Read more at Suite101: President Obama Descends from 14 Revolutionary War Soldiers http://www.suite101.com/content/president-obama-descends-from14-revolutionary-war-soldiers-a287470#ixzz1DD4qREo0
To think that the SCOTUS might actually have the choice and be analyzing the value and repercussions of taking on this issue .. as huge as it is, and as vital as the safeguarding of our Constitutional sovereignty at all costs is .. is mind boggling and terrifying.
For the archives
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January 19, 2011
Hawaii governor hasn’t found Obama’s birth certificate yet
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Excerpt:
So for some reason, although there is supposed to be a “recording of the birth,” the investigators have not yet found it. Perhaps the documents in the Hawaii State Archives are so badly organized that weeks of effort are necessary to uncover a document. Strangely enough, Governor Linda Lingle, who was in office until this January, had her Director of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino issue the following statement:
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.
This oddly worded statement caused much skeptical commentary at the time it was issued. Note that Dr. Fukino does not say she has seen the actual birth certificate, but rather that she has seen that it is on record. This is consistent with Gov. Abercrombie’s statement that it is recorded (but he can’t produce the certificate itself).
Did Dr. Fukino find some sort of index entry and not bother to look at the actual certificate itself? If so, why?
And why did Governor Lingle make the following statement, if she had never seen the actual certificate in an interview with Rabbi Schmuly Boteach on WABC Radio in New York (recording here):
“It’s been an odd situation,” Lingle said, referring to the continuing controversy over the disputed natural-born citizenship of Obama. “This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country.
“So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it’s again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this.”
Governor Lingle misrepresents Dr. Fukino’s statement here. That also caused much controversy, and would seem to indicate she has seen the long form, which would record the place of birth.
The two versions of the Certificate of Live Birth (which can be issued on the basis of a statement to authorities, and which does not even mean that a birth necessarily took place in Hawaii) which have been published do not contain anty information on the place of birth.
Has Governor Abercrombie asked his predecessor for help in finding the document?
In the words of Lewis Carroll, it gets curiouser and curiouser.
Of course, to the mainstream media, all these contradictory statements and a document that somehow can’t be produced by the Governor are of no interest at all. Nothing to see here, move along. They will continue to demonize anyone who suggests that it is a bit odd that nobody can locate the actual document recording the actual birth of the President of the United States.
But to anyone with an inquisitive mind, it does appear to be very strange indeed that there would be such a huge problem in locating the document itself.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/hawaii_governor_hasnt_found_ob.html
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Jan. 27, 2011
Hawaii Gov. Abercrombie’s Health Director Quits
Interim Health Director Dr. Neal Palafox Resigns Amid Unconfirmed Reports of Probe into Billing Fraud
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Excerpt:
Hawaii Health Director Dr. Neal Palafox abruptly quit Wednesday, the first of new Gov. Neil Abercrombie’s Cabinet appointees to leave.
The reason for Palafox’s resignation was a mystery, and he wouldn’t say whether he was asked to resign.
Abercrombie’s office said Palafox asked the Democratic governor to withdraw his nomination.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/27/politics/main7288553.shtml
Adding to “The Long Thread.”
NY Times 1859 Natural Born Citizen as Defined By The US Administration
NY Times Archives ^ | Summer 1859 | NY Times
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 9:38:52 PM by patlin
1859 Official Opinion of US Admin
1859 Opinion of US Attorney General
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