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Evangelicals, Catholics Agree with 80% of What Obama Says
Nietzsche is Dead ^ | 27 aug 08 | foutsc

Posted on 08/27/2008 9:32:53 AM PDT by foutsc

It didn't take long for Catholic Bishops to slap down Nancy Pelosi's ignorant comments regarding abortion and the Catholic Church. I guess Madam Speaker has been too busy scheming against the president to read her catechism.

What really caught my eye though was this provocative statement in the WashingtonTimes article:

"The push for the Democratic Party is to have a new position on abortion," said Steve Waldman, editor of the religious Web site beliefnet.com. "When you look at Catholics and Evangelicals, you see that they agree with 80 percent of what [Mr. Obama] says, but there's this stumbling block with abortion."
I couldn't believe my eyes. How could this man, Steve Waldman, of a web site called beliefnet.com, say such an ignorant thing?!

Answer: He's ignorant. And his web site is a squishy, perfumed bog of it's-all-good spirituality that does harm to every religion it features. Do you love your God and your faith? Then stay away from this empty, flowery, New Age wisp of nothingness. There might be a few feel-good prayers there, but if you need serious spiritual guidance, go see your pastor or rabbi.

Now, back to this absurd statement that Catholics and Evangelicals agree with 80% of what Mr. Obama says:

Do Catholics and Evangelicals support Mother Earth worship proposals like cutting carbon emissions 80% by 2050, effectively rewinding our economy back to the frontier days?

How about Obama's belief in socialistic government solutions over free market ones to cure every perceived ill?

Do Christians want a nanny state instilling values in their kids, or would they rather do it themselves and tell the bureaucrats to butt out?

Do Catholics oppose school vouchers and school choice, as Mr. Obama does?

Do Evangelicals support President Obama reaching out to anti-semitic wackjobs like Ahmedinejad of Iran?

No! The answer to all of the above is No. I don't know what Steve Waldman's religion is, but I suspect it's feel-good progressivism with some Gaia worship thrown in. Seems he's recently found a new messiah as well.

He sure loves preaching the Democratic Gospel, calling all Christians to abandon their evil conservative ways and join with the gay marriage, pro-abortion, Hollywood values Democratic party. It's a natural fit, right? Nancy Pelosi thinks so.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: beliefnet; catholics; evangelicals; obama
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1 posted on 08/27/2008 9:32:53 AM PDT by foutsc
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To: foutsc

i’d love to see where he gets his stats, from the democratic talking points?


2 posted on 08/27/2008 9:34:43 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: foutsc
Well, then I must be part of the 20% of Catholics who don't believe what Obama says.
3 posted on 08/27/2008 9:35:42 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: machogirl

How did they come up with this ridiculous percentage?


4 posted on 08/27/2008 9:36:31 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: foutsc
If all human thoughts are considered, I'm sure I agree with Obama 80% of the time. But agreeing on liking indoors plumbing doesn't make for a political marriage.
5 posted on 08/27/2008 9:37:41 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: foutsc
Well, even as a lapsed catholic, I have a wee bit of a problem with him allowing babies that survived an abortion to die a horrific, agonizing, inhumane death.

It must be me. I kinda like babies.

6 posted on 08/27/2008 9:38:00 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Obama-the ultimate in buyer's remorse.)
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To: foutsc

Steve Waldman of beliefnet.com MUST be challenged on this.


7 posted on 08/27/2008 9:39:35 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: GOP_Lady

This Catholic doesn’t believe one Damn thing that American-hater says.


8 posted on 08/27/2008 9:40:15 AM PDT by notaliberal (Christ Our Hope!)
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To: foutsc
Never forget. Hitler said, “that Eva's got a fine looking
tush!” Our President, Franklin D. Roosevelt agreed!!
9 posted on 08/27/2008 9:41:26 AM PDT by Hans
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To: GOP_Lady
How did they come up with this ridiculous percentage?

The same way they come up with all of there "stuff." They pulled it out of their arses.

10 posted on 08/27/2008 9:42:01 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: foutsc

There is no these numbers are accurate. No way.


11 posted on 08/27/2008 9:42:58 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: no dems
Steve Waldman of beliefnet.com MUST be challenged on this.

Beliefnet.com has never been a credible website anywise.

12 posted on 08/27/2008 9:44:06 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: SampleMan
If all human thoughts are considered, I'm sure I agree with Obama 80% of the time. But agreeing on liking indoors plumbing doesn't make for a political marriage.

Yup, that's the way I took it also.
Working out is good for you. Check.
Eating is important. Check.
Vacations in 'tony' mansions in Hawaii are very nice. Check.

Its the other 20% where we don't agree (like 100% of his political/social-engineering positions) that are killers...

13 posted on 08/27/2008 9:44:54 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: foutsc

>>Evangelicals, Catholics Agree with 80% of What Obama Says>>

The title is a misnomer. Simply not true.


14 posted on 08/27/2008 9:45:57 AM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: foutsc

A large part of Catholic works and outreach is in their schools...which are private.

Obama opposes vouchers for those schools.

Obama favors the death penalty for child molestors (please, no dirty Priest jokes to digress this thread).

Obama favors abortion.

How does that even remotely align with Catholics, Catholicism, and Catholic interests/worldviews?


15 posted on 08/27/2008 9:46:40 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Waldman is a big drum banger for the DNC. He’s a delusional lib who is spinning this fantasy that Evangelical Christians are flocking to the Democratic party in droves.

This all part of the Democrats following Lenin’s advice about telling a lie big enough and long enough and people will eventually believe it.


16 posted on 08/27/2008 9:46:42 AM PDT by foutsc (-- Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: machogirl
It's the same as most of what you hear from the Democrats and their sympathizers in the MSM.

Wishful Thinking.

17 posted on 08/27/2008 9:48:16 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer
(from Wiki ) Wishful thinking may cause blindness to unintended consequences.

Imagine that.

18 posted on 08/27/2008 9:50:40 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Righter-than-Rush
>>Evangelicals, Catholics Agree with 80% of What Obama Says>>

The title is a misnomer. Simply not true.

Right...it should say "Squishy Evangelicals, and squishy Catholics Agree with 80% of What Obama Says"

19 posted on 08/27/2008 10:02:22 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Game over man...GAME OVER!)
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To: GOP_Lady
How did they come up with this ridiculous percentage?

Ailamentary, my dear Watson!

20 posted on 08/27/2008 10:14:25 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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