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question about Obama's tax plan (vanity)
10-29-2008 | stan_sipple

Posted on 10/29/2008 9:35:15 AM PDT by stan_sipple

I wondered about Obama's plan to confiscate wealth from "just" those making over $250k a year. I believe this involved requiring those taxpayers to contribute to FICA. If that happens would the social security administration insure that income and calculate benefits on that high income? If so that would explode social security.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: obamataxplan; socialsecurity; spreadthewealth

1 posted on 10/29/2008 9:35:16 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Answer: It’s a flat lie, and I can’t believe more people aren’t hammering the Big O on this.

Obama has proposed raising the social security cap to 250K.

Yes that is a tax increase on people making UNDER 250K.

To quote Obama:

“In terms of raising the cap on the payroll tax, right now everybody who’s making $102,000 or less pays 100% of payroll tax on 100% of their income. There are about 3% to 4% of Americans who are above $102,000 in income every year. So if you want to talk about who’s middle class, me giving cuts to folks making $60,000 or $70,000, and potentially asking more from friends of mine like Warren Buffett. That’s a debate I’m happy to have with John McCain, because it’s the people making $75,000, $50,000, $60,000 who are hurting.”

Removing the cap entirely is a 1.4 Trillion dollar tax increase over five years.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Economic/Barack_Obama_Social_Security.htm


2 posted on 10/29/2008 9:42:03 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: stan_sipple
BO ran an ad last night during Jeopardy (one of the few programs I even bother watching on the alphabet news) where he said the money for all his programs would, among other places, come from a modest increase in taxes over those making $200K (not $250K) per year. Of course, bugging out of Iraq will save us a bundle of money as well.
3 posted on 10/29/2008 9:43:50 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Smogger

will Obama insure the higher wages subject to the fica tax, or are we just taking the money?


4 posted on 10/29/2008 10:06:05 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: Vigilanteman

a surrogat explained - the 200k is for individuals; 250k for married - which amounts to a marriage penalty.


5 posted on 10/29/2008 10:06:06 AM PDT by Eric Esot
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To: Eric Esot
From Obama’s own Website calculator:

If your income is between $200K and $250K and you file single or jointly, you will NOT received at TAX cut.

6 posted on 10/29/2008 10:21:37 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (Obama- new socialism for a new generation that never heard of Hitler, Stalin and Mao)
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To: stan_sipple
I wondered about Obama's plan to confiscate wealth from "just" those making over $250k a year.

You mean $200K $150K, don't you?

7 posted on 10/29/2008 10:25:55 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: stan_sipple

No mention. I suppose it would be insured up to the Social Security Wage Base, but that’s just a guess.

See what I am talking about. Obama has been so good at hammering home the 250K progressive tax increase, that even people here on FR don’t recognize that he is actually going to dramatically up taxes on people paying less by upping or eliminating the the Social Security Wage Base.


8 posted on 10/29/2008 10:26:43 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: 11th Commandment

thanks - was quoting.


9 posted on 10/29/2008 10:45:41 AM PDT by Eric Esot
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To: Eric Esot

So what do you suppose the explantion will be when the amount gets lowered to 150K, 100K, 50K and finally anyone earning more than what they define as a necessary liveable wage?


10 posted on 10/30/2008 5:46:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman

the explanation will be a ‘hypothetical’ - as it is with obamas ‘each family will save $2500 a year health plan’


11 posted on 10/30/2008 10:17:57 AM PDT by Eric Esot
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