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America is Going Down
CNW ^ | 12.08.08 | Don Swarthout

Posted on 12/14/2008 10:53:05 AM PST by Dr. Marten

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To: Dr. Marten
Why have we just given our government so much power over us?

Not like it is just now. Demand for services from all levels of government seems to do nothing but increase day by day.

21 posted on 12/14/2008 11:19:34 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: redpoll

There’s nothing left for the left to take control of. The multi-nationals own Congress lock, stock, and barrel.


22 posted on 12/14/2008 11:20:43 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: schu

“I do believe we are bankrupt and at some time in the future will go thru some gut wrenching financial restructuring.

That said, I do not see how the conclusion that the Amero and NA Union are manifestations of this situation.

Nonsense, fear mongering and blather.”

I agree.


23 posted on 12/14/2008 11:22:07 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: RightWhale

Wait until Mr. Obama signs us over to the UN authority for global warming, abortion, etc.


24 posted on 12/14/2008 11:23:22 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: Dr. Marten

“Some of our Congressmen passed this legislation for their own personal gain and should be prosecuted. “

I AGREE 100 percent, then hang them all.


25 posted on 12/14/2008 11:25:01 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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To: SumProVita

UN has no governmental authority.


26 posted on 12/14/2008 11:25:40 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: RightWhale

Just hide and watch what happens.

Also, ask yourself WHY Mr. Obama plans to make a place in his cabinet for the UN liason?


27 posted on 12/14/2008 11:28:06 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: unkus

“My advice to you is to change your assets from being based on the U.S. dollar to another government’s currency.....”

Yeah, okay, that is a really easy thing for the average American to do.

Thanks for that advice. Saying that is about as useful as telling a would be stock market investor to “buy low, sell high”. As vacuous as it is vague.

There is virtually no risk of a sovereign debt default by the U.S. Government. The real risk is the Fed will monetize a large portion of the debt leading to much higher inflation.

For that risk buying physical gold is the best hedging vehicle for the avergae American.


28 posted on 12/14/2008 11:28:26 AM PST by ggekko60506
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To: rabscuttle385

ping


29 posted on 12/14/2008 11:31:05 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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To: Dr. Marten

Here’s one to chew on. Wayne Hage once told me that the United States was pushing out grazers, loggers and miners, because they had split estate interests on the public lands. (You can see this movement in its extremities now as the new “Travel Plans” on the Natonal Forests seek to eliminate motorized vehicle travel and direct use only to improved campgrounds.) Much of the West is locked up in public land. Our California county is 63% federally owned. Wayne said all of this was real collateral for our international debt.

I believe it.


30 posted on 12/14/2008 11:31:29 AM PST by marsh2
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To: LeGrande
It is impossible for the US to default in dollar debt.

I don't see why not. I think it is possible that at some point the US could simply declare all US government debt null and void and issue new currency.

31 posted on 12/14/2008 11:32:10 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: SumProVita

Pure entertainment. An appearance of relevancy.


32 posted on 12/14/2008 11:38:35 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: Dr. Marten

“Calls to Congress ran 100-1 against the bailouts. Still Congress approved a $700 Billion dollar bailout package. An additional $1 Trillion dollar bailout is being considered by Congress, which means $1,700,000,000,000 of your tax dollars could be given away.”

“Why have we just given our government so much power over us?”

These two sentences are in conflict. If the American people are 100 to 1 against, and Congress goes ahead and gives the money away, they do not represent us anymore. They are out of control. This is the real reason we are in trouble.


33 posted on 12/14/2008 11:38:55 AM PST by whipitgood (Real Americans don't allow socialists to take over their country.)
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To: RC2
I was looking around in the vault just yesterdy and found this in the corner under some old cardboard boxes.

Is that the one you were looking for? If you want to see a lot of gold bars, look in the vaults of the Federal Reserve Bank in NYC! They keep a crew on men busy moving the darn stuff from one country's locker to anothers

34 posted on 12/14/2008 11:41:16 AM PST by An Old Man
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To: Dr. Marten
I am not a financial expert, but I am really worried about all this and downright scared. If it was just the Fannie & Freddie thing I would say we will get through this, but there are other theories out there that are frightening. Some people say its the Chinese calling in their debt, others say Communism has patiently defeated us. Then there is one world government theory which says all the continents will be integrated and no borders which means loss of sovereignty for America, loss of 2nd amendment and subjugation to a foreign power. It all seems like a nightmare, but I know I am wide awake. Honestly, I don't know what to think and can only hope someone really does have the answer.
35 posted on 12/14/2008 11:45:28 AM PST by this is my country
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To: LucyT

ping


36 posted on 12/14/2008 11:45:42 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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To: stockpirate
There remains only one course of action to save the republic.
And that is...
37 posted on 12/14/2008 11:48:18 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Texas_shutterbug

It wasn’t American’s buying things on credit that casued the problem. It is the government spending without limit and borrowing. Not consumer buying or loans.


38 posted on 12/14/2008 11:48:24 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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To: samtheman

“And that is”

The Declaration of Independence and the 2nd amendment and watering the tree of liberty with the boold of tyrants......


39 posted on 12/14/2008 11:50:21 AM PST by stockpirate (Bushbots and the Cult of Personnality, are the same as Obamaniods.)
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To: wolfpat
I agree with you (no conspiracy to cause the banking crisis) but there are always opportunists ready to take advantage of any crisis.
40 posted on 12/14/2008 11:51:04 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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