Obama to unveil new Faith-Based office (includes past SBC president)

CNN ^ | 2/4/2009

[markomalley]

President Obama will unveil a revamped office of Faith-Based Initiatives Thursday, and a new approach to the controversial program established by former President George Bush.

The office, tasked with steering federal funds to charitable organizations tied to churches and faith-based organizations, will be headed by Josh DuBois – a 26 year-old Pentecostal minister who was in charge of religious outreach for the Obama campaign.

According to a White House official, the basic structure of the office will remain the same as it was under Bush, but Obama is introducing a new component: an advisory council of 25 leaders — secular and religious — who will help inform the Office and provide advice on other policy issues.

According to a person familiar with the makeup of the council, some of the 25 members include:

–Rabbi David Saperstein, head of the DC Religious Action Center of Reform Judiasm –Judith Vredenburgh, CEO of Big Brothers and Big Sisters of America –Bishop Vashti McKenzie, first female Bishop of the African Methodist Episcopal Church –The Rev. Joel Hunter, the senior pastor of Northland church in Orlando, Florida –The Rev. Frank Page, the conservative past president of the Southern Baptist Convention

[markomalley]

Note how they identify "the conservative" but not "the liberal"

[bperiwinkle7]

This is creepy. Something to “handle” the Christians later....

What ever happened to separation....blah blah blah?

[laweeks]

As I said before,

I just find it incredible that this so-called man who believes in killing newborns because “mommy” wants them dead would even mention religion . . . it’s disgusting . . . I though partial-birth abortions were barbaric, but to let a newborn die of exposure because Obammy wants the little one dead is something that only a monster would believe in.

Unfortunately, the sheeple will connect this culture-of-death leader with God and His mercy and totally miss the point: Obama believes in infanticide . . . and he also believes in giving that same necessary medical care to illegal aliens that he would deprive a helpless infant of.

[Ingtar]

Isn’t that the SBC leader forced out for his Liberal ways?

[kabar]

Obama's man of faith: Staff member who found his voice at BU leads religious outreach Joshua DuBois, 25, is Barack Obama's religious affairs director. For 41 hours, he stood on the sidewalk. He was just 17 years old, a freshman at Boston University, and he didn't know what else to do. A jury in New York had just acquitted the four police officers whose 41 bullets had killed an unarmed Guinean immigrant named Amadou Diallo.

So Joshua DuBois wrote "NO MORE" on a placard, planted himself on an expanse of pavement along Commonwealth Avenue, in front of a memorial to Martin Luther King Jr., and stood there - 41 hours for 41 shots.

[markomalley]

ping!

[billorites]

"Obama to unveil new Faith-Based office"

Women and unborn children hardest hit...

[tx_eggman]

Bronco Bomber ... Keepin’ that Church and State as separate as can be.

[livius]

Something to “handle” the Christians later....

I think that's exactly what it is. It's Hitler's "kirche" revived.

I know they'll find some Catholics only too glad to go along, too. Fortunately, I don't think they'll get anybody in the heirarchy (especially after Abp Burke's statement today about the responsibility of bishops to excommunicate pro-abortion politicians!). But they'll get random traitors, probably most female members of aging lefty religious orders.

[screaminsunshine]

Calypso Louie for Secretary of Religion.

[AmericanGirlRising]

Joel Hunter is in so deep with these guys, and will lead his Disney-esque flock right into the pit.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2009/01/15/on-abortion-and-gay-rights-evangelicals-and-liberals-join-to-advise-obama.html?msg=1 - Joel Hunter leads new movement to compromise on abortion and homosexual life issues. Group seeks to increase sex education and ban hiring discrimination for being a homosexual.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Column2.aspx?UrlTitle=an_evangelical_bridge_too_far&ns=DavidRStokes&dt=12/28/2008&submitted=true&comments=true&sort=desc#comments - This article explains what is happening in modern Evangelical churches. Typically called neoevangelicals, the newest crop of popular ministers cherry-pick the Bible and focus on poverty and good deeds instead of speaking out against sin.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1857140,00.html?imw=Y - Article on Joel Hunter and Barack Obama’s prayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PQjhz3bhSM&feature=related - Obama attacking Christian leaders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=—vVLFpJ0bQ&feature=related - Interview with Joel Hunter prior to DNC prayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQyXd33Y1KU - Joel Hunter’s prayer at the DNC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ATM7kwEA58&feature=related - Joel Hunter defends Barack Obama’s performance at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Forum

http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/08/joel-hunter-democrats-could-st.html - August 15, 2008 Beliefnet article on Joel Hunter (Beliefnet is one of the largest Christian forums online. Please not only read the article, but also the limited number of comments below from Northland members.)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2006-11-28-christian-coalition_x.htm - Joel Hunter and the Christian Coalition

http://christiansandclimate.org/learn/call-to-action/signatories/ - Pastors who have signed the petition in support of man-made global warming action
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122601904162807153.html - Wall Street Journal’s article on the impact of Christians in voting

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/neoe.htm - Foundational explanation of Neo-Evangelicalism

[markomalley]

Fortunately, I don't think they'll get anybody in the heirarchy...

McCarrick would be pleased to support him, I bet.

[livius]

McCarrick’s not a player anymore. Actually, I don’t even think retired bishops could support him without drawing down the ire of Rome. I think this has finally gotten to the point of no return.

What will probably happen - in my humble and non-prophetic opinion - is that some bishop will come out and support Bambi, be excommunicated, and start his own personal schism, which will result in the American Patriotic Church or, for simplicity’s sake, the “American Church.” Sadly, a huge number of allegedly Catholic folk would follow him.

But I think the Pope is ready for this.

[markomalley]

and start his own personal schism, which will result in the American Patriotic Church or, for simplicity’s sake, the “American Church.”

Understood. Don't disagree.

You ever read, Robert Hugh Benson, Lord of the World? You can buy it hardcopy or read it online here.

Synopsis: Described by Fulton Sheen as one of the three greatest depictions of the advent of the demonic in world literature, Lord of the World is science fiction with a difference. The West has succumbed to a sort of international socialism. The forces of secular materialism, relativism and state control are everywhere triumphant. Protestantism is no more, and Catholicism which had made some major advances in the first half of the twentieth century has been devastated by the development of new psychologies and the exodus of intellectuals in the wake of an Ecumenical Council. Euthanasia has become an instrument of the state, Esperanto the universal second language. Nevertheless, although organised religion has largely collapsed in the face of institutional secularism, a vague, humanistic religiosity militantly hostile to the exclusive and supernatural claims of the Church is present everywhere. Finally, the East, which has amalgamated into a single, pantheistic bloc, continues to pose a military threat. Enter Julian Felsenberg diplomat, scholar, guru, Antichrist...

[livius]

Yes, I’ve read it. I think Robert Hugh Benson must have had the gift of foreknowledge.

[Salvation]

 

Take note, Obama!

 

 

[Between the Lines]

A surprising move by Rev. Frank Page.

Baptist Ping!

[red irish]

You might be right. Let the light of day fall on those who have no real faith in the church to begin with. Catholics for free choice,call to action just to name a few. I was watching O’reilly the other night and he was discussing how the immigration issue could destroy the republicans. After giving amnesty and then free stuff they would be loyal to the dems. We are talking millions of voters. No longer would our country have a two party system. This is not the first time I have heard this scenario before. There are a lot of hispanic Christians in this country and we need to reach out to them so that they will not embrace the gospel of death and damnation that belongs to Obama,abortion and homosexual marriage.

[livius]

We’ve got to do better with Hispanics. One of the big problems is that our churches are very divided, under the mistaken idea that somehow it is “better” for Hispanics to have to attend mass separately, have all their events separately, etc. This is an old leftist idea and it has been a disaster. It means that Hispanics (well, the first generation immigrants and, as a result, their kids) don’t integrate into an environment where they can be taught and shepherded just like everybody else.

In addition, a lot of the non-Hispanic clergy and laity who work among Hispanic immigrants are either very left-wing, or at least very AmChurch. They have a hammerlock on Hispanics and it is to their advantage that Hispanics are kept out of regular parish life.