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1 posted on 02/10/2009 5:51:29 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
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Like the note says, if the GOP supports it, they will get no credit. So, they lose either way. However, if the economy has a weak recovery or none at all, the GOP will look very good.


2 posted on 02/10/2009 5:54:00 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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You NEVER lose when you stick to your principles!


4 posted on 02/10/2009 5:55:53 AM PST by G Larry (Barack's character has been molded by extremists)
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Does Obama sound like a man who knows this stimulus will work? Heck no...he’s already making excuses about how it’ll take years for the economy to recover.

So what’s Rove’s problem? Maybe to soften the criticism toward Bernake and Paulson (and Bush) for the mess they started back in October (or was it September) by acting like a couple of hysterical doom and gloomers.


5 posted on 02/10/2009 5:57:03 AM PST by dawn53
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What is it with guys like Rove?

We will always be able to point to the debt ridden detritus that Zero is going to leave.


13 posted on 02/10/2009 6:09:18 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero's political stylings since 1-20-09!)
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I finally figured out what Tom Brokaw’s voice sounds like: it sounds like Tommy is in a protracted Valsalva Maneuver while attempting to force a bowel movement -— notice that the content of what he is saying appropriately stinks, figuratively.


14 posted on 02/10/2009 6:11:20 AM PST by steelyourfaith (BO has been POTUS 3 weeks and I still have to buy my gas and pay my mortgage. What's up with that?)
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If the economy recovers or not the GOP is much better in the long run if it stands on fiscal discipline and balanced budgets (including, IMO, easing the obsession with tax cuts).

Rove’s political expediency gave us “compassionate conservatism,” and the Medicare RX bill, No Child Left Behind, ballooning deficits, etc. and it’s why politically the GOP is in the state it is today.


18 posted on 02/10/2009 6:17:35 AM PST by Catphish
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It doesn’t matter what the Dems do, the media is going to tell the public how much better off they are.

IMO, ANYTHING the Dems do will be regarded as miraculous and stupendously successful.

So might as well stand on principle instead of sell outs with 30 tainted peices of silver.


21 posted on 02/10/2009 6:21:31 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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I don’t really care what Rove has to say at this point...but Brokaw sure seems like an odd mouthpiece.


22 posted on 02/10/2009 6:21:35 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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He may be right. The real economic damage (inflation?) may not be apparent for a year or two or more, not to mention the power-grabbing details tucked into it.

But that doesn’t mean Republican should jump on board. Stand on principles. Perhaps some of the long-term damage will be visible by the time the 2010 elections roll around. Even if not, even if by then the power grab is complete and we have lost most, if not all, of our liberty, what is to be gained by signing on to demagogued evil? It will only increase Dim contempt for the Publies and confirm them in the belief that demagoguery wins every time.

Our real problem is that the people are now ripe for demagoguing. It’s been building for decades. The fight has to be on the level of getting through to people so that they wake up to the fact that they are being demagogued.

Rove’s too much into finessing in order to win. That’s what got us into this mess.


26 posted on 02/10/2009 6:41:56 AM PST by Houghton M.
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Its like what Rush has Flat out told us........its not that bad, Carter Admin -6.8% last year was a heck of alot worse econ. that this.......

Our GOP Congress people need to add this into why they are not supporting the Porkulus........its not that bad as compared to Jimmy Carter yrs....this bill is a huge overreaction...simply a power grab.....

Recessions are a natural phenom.....you only get depressions when govt & Treas overreact to try and prevent a recession....Whiskey & Gunpowder..


27 posted on 02/10/2009 6:42:49 AM PST by sbark
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This gives us some insight into why W was such a horrible president.


34 posted on 02/10/2009 7:06:49 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Vote Present
42 posted on 02/10/2009 7:29:29 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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I did not realize Brokejaw had a degree in economics. There is no way in he## the economy gets better by the end of the year. The Goobermint’s numbers on unemployment are cooked and the situation with banks is just beginning to unfold. See the thread running on FR today about the electronic run on banks last year. If that happens again the game is OVER!
43 posted on 02/10/2009 7:33:40 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Chevron 7 will not engage!)
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I've got news for Tom and Karl.

The economy is going to get far, far, far worse than it is now before it gets better.

The Fed nearly doubled the money supply in December, 2008.

This is unprecedented.

The world as we know it has come to an end.

A Brave New World will begin shortly.

Lock and load.

45 posted on 02/10/2009 7:40:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You give peace a chance. I'll stay back here and cover you, just in case it don't work out.)
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if the economy begins to recover later this year, they will be "on the outside looking in" having opposed the Stimulus Plan. . .

I'm no Karl Rove but I figured that out. Better bet is this ain't gonna work and whoever is behind it is going down like the Titanic. Just wait till the public finds out this is not the last time they have to dig into their pockets. Gird your loins people.

47 posted on 02/10/2009 8:05:34 AM PST by McGruff (PORKZILLA!)
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