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Obama's 1-2 Punch - Sotomayor Nomination vs.Coming Push for Amnesty for Illegals
vanity ^ | 5-30-09 | vanity

Posted on 05/30/2009 10:41:24 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo

There seems to be indecision about the level at which the Republicans should oppose the Sotomayor nomination. Do we go scorched Earth like the Democrats always do? Should we conserve our political ammunition for a fight we can win? How hard should we fight?

What we need to take into account as we try to decide how much to oppose Sotomayor (or not), is that I think Obama, in an attempt to drive a permanent wedge between Hispanics and Republicans, is going to bring an illegal alien amnesty bill back immediately after the Sotomayor nomination hearings.

It's his hope that we anger the Hispanics during the Sotomayor nomination process, and that will fire them up to be extremely engaged when he immediately pushes an amnesty bill.

I'm torn on what's the smartest way to advance politically in dealing with Sotomayor. I'm leaning towards Krauthammer's Criticize the Confirm suggestion, but I'm not sure. I've been sick of sackless Republicans always playing defense for years while the Democrats run roughshod over them, but I'm not sure if this (Sotomayor nomination) is a fight we can win, and may be a poor time to go nuclear. As distateful as Sotomayor is, any Obama nominee will be at least as bad. Krauthammer suggests:

What should a principled conservative do? Use the upcoming hearings not to deny her the seat, but to illuminate her views. No magazine gossip from anonymous court clerks. No "temperament" insinuations. Nothing ad hominem. The argument should be elevated, respectful and entirely about judicial philosophy.

Whatever our side chooses to do concerning Sotomayor, we should fully anticipate that Obama's next move will be to bring back an illegal alien amnesty bill which, in my opinion, will be much, much more important in the long view than one liberal Supreme Court nominee who will only replace a current liberal Supreme Court Justice. Zero sum.

The true fight is to NEVER allow an illegals amnesty to pass. That truly could sound the death knell for this nation. Sotomayor is merely Obama's opening jab; amnesty is the knockout punch he's hoping to land on our jaw while we worry about the relatively insignificant jab.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; obama; sotomayor

1 posted on 05/30/2009 10:41:25 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Should read "Krauthammer's Criticize then Confirm"
2 posted on 05/30/2009 10:42:56 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Apparently Sotomayer has an affiliation with a Hispanic Women’s group, and also with the racist LaRaza. Why is it that Obama’s appointments always seem to be people who are not with the American people, but against them.


3 posted on 05/30/2009 10:51:52 AM PDT by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Apparently Sotomayer has an affiliation with a Hispanic Women’s group, and also with the racist LaRaza. Why is it that Obama’s appointments always seem to be people who are not with the American people, but against them.


4 posted on 05/30/2009 10:52:18 AM PDT by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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To: Jennikins
Apparently Sotomayer has an affiliation with a Hispanic Women’s group, and also with the racist LaRaza. Why is it that Obama’s appointments always seem to be people who are not with the American people, but against them.

That's the kind of person Obama is, and it's the type of nominee he's going to put up. We won't get any middle-of-the-roaders. I think we need to realize that we won't get any nominee who is less liberal and that we wouldn't have the votes to keep her from getting nominated anyway. I'm as fed up as anyone with Republicans who won't fight for what's right, but I think we need to be really careful about how we take this one on.

5 posted on 05/30/2009 11:03:02 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Jennikins

Obama wouldn’t be the first President who was a friend of La Raza.


6 posted on 05/30/2009 11:06:27 AM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be a Conservative now.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
we should fully anticipate that Obama's next move will be to bring back an illegal alien amnesty bill

With the help of plenty-o-RINOs, of that we can be sure. Don't be surprised if McCain co-authors the damn thing. ...again. GWB tried his darndest to create tens of millions of new Democrat voters through amnesty; Obama & Co. will succeed.

7 posted on 05/30/2009 11:06:40 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
With the help of plenty-o-RINOs, of that we can be sure. Don't be surprised if McCain co-authors the damn thing. ...again. GWB tried his darndest to create tens of millions of new Democrat voters through amnesty; Obama & Co. will succeed.

It's way too early to be defeatist about an amnesty bill. Even if there's idots on both sides of Congress who will push it, remember that the American people are STRONLY against amnesty for illegals. We stopped them once, we can stop them again.

8 posted on 05/30/2009 11:10:49 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Jennikins

I believe this woman has the same disdain for America and it’s citizens as Obama does. She identifies herself as Puerto Rican first, even though she was born here.

In College Thesis, Sotomayor Appeared to Support Puerto Rican Independence
[snip]Ms. Sotomayor was born in the Bronx of Puerto Rican parents, and her pride in her roots is evident as she dedicates her paper “to the people of my island – for the rich history that is mine.”

Ms. Sotomayor’s apparent support for Puerto Rican independence reflected her concern over preservation of the island’s culture. She wrote: “The experiences of Alaska and Hawaii since statehood with cultural destruction has been indicative of the cultural loss Puerto Rico would eventual [sic] face if statehood for the island were chosen. Under the commonwealth status, there has been a gradual deterioration of the Spanish language among the Puerto Rican populace and a growing Americanization of the island.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/05/26/in-college-thesis-sotomayor-appeared-to-support-puerto-rican-in


9 posted on 05/30/2009 11:10:51 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: BGHater

“Obama wouldn’t be the first President who was a friend of La Raza.”

Yes, and conservatives brought up that fact while the GOP leaders sat on their hands, as usual.


10 posted on 05/30/2009 11:12:16 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

The argument is about more than just the nominee.

I found a document at cato.org that rebutts a work by Paul Krugman that is at the heart of the behavior of the libs. They both should be required reading for all conservatives as they shed much light on the differences in principles and explains more of the ‘why’ our fight is the good fight and theirs is doomed to failure even more fantasticly from an economic standpoint than the rather simplistic issues of hijacking the free markets into financing low income housing.

If you want to know why libs are all for bringing back labor unions and capping CEO pay, it’s all in there.

Sotomayor is just a means to an end in the bigger picture and if we want to start a fight over her nomination, it would be best to make it over principles rather than about her.

Link to “Paul Krugman’s Nostalgianomics: Economic Policies, Social Norms, & Income Inequality” by Brink Lindsey

http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/Nostalgianomics.pdf

There’s a reference to Paul Krugman’s document in the appendix.


11 posted on 05/30/2009 11:13:36 AM PDT by dajeeps
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To: SeafoodGumbo

There are a whole lot of punches coming—cap and tax is just another.


12 posted on 05/30/2009 11:20:01 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: AuntB

I don’t think we’re ever going to get a nominee from Obama that we will like. This is what happens when too many people vote for a guy like Obama. We need to to be the smart opposition instead of throwing everything we’ve got at him constantly. This is one of those times that I think Republicans should vote her in. I’m not positive that’s the right thing to do, and they should bring up her membership in La Raza, but she’s going to get in, we just need to decide how much political capital we expend on the process, especially at a time when Obama has been on the defensive.


13 posted on 05/30/2009 11:21:24 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: dajeeps
Sotomayor is just a means to an end in the bigger picture and if we want to start a fight over her nomination, it would be best to make it over principles rather than about her.

Agreed. And thanks for the link, I'll read it this afternoon.

14 posted on 05/30/2009 11:27:59 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo
It's his hope that we anger the Hispanics during the Sotomayor nomination process

We have the artuments to win. We can point to qualified Hispanics like Miguel Estrada and replay the ugly things the dems said about him. Every time the MSM tries to make conservative opposition look racist, we just drag out their behavior on Estrada.

As far as a new swipe at amnesty goes, I'm sure the border states have some strong opinions on that one.

15 posted on 05/30/2009 12:29:15 PM PDT by tbpiper (How would you define a 'domestic enemy of the constitution'?)
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To: AuntB

Thank you Aunt Bee for your very informative inputs on what is happening regarding our illegal alien invasion problems. Regarding Sotomayer, I have read and heard her describing herself as a Puerto Rican, but also as an Hispanic. She will be working with Obama to bring in more illegals and amnesty them. I am always amazed that people like her get educated by our country, gov.grants,scholarships etc., but show absolutely no loyalty to the U.S. but only to their Latino heritage.


16 posted on 05/31/2009 10:14:55 PM PDT by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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