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To: chaosagent
Look at the link in Post 51.

There is no link in Post 51.

There are court cases all over the place. Parents both citizens, born anywhere, Born in the US, parents don’t matter, and Parents must be citizens, born in the US.

Well I've read the ones which say the nationality of the parent doesn't matter but I'm not familiar with a single court decision that supports the idea that only a person born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents is a natural born citizen. Nor am I familiar with any case that defines three or more classes of citizenship. Can you point me to one?

And what are your ‘certain specific circumstances’?

Currently? A person born born outside of the U.S. and its outlying possessions of parents, both of whom are citizens of the U.S. and one of whom has lived in the U.S. or one of its outlying possessions before the birth; a person born outside of the U.S. and its outlying possessions of parents, one of whom is a citizen of the United States who had lived in the U.S. or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the U.S.; a person born in an outlying possession of the U.S. of parents, one of whom is a citizen who had lived in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth; or a person born outside the U.S. and its outlying possessions of parents; one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the U.S. who, prior to the birth, had lived in the U.S. or its outlying possessions for at least a total of five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

122 posted on 06/17/2009 11:03:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

There is no link in Post 51.


Sorry, the link is in 47 and 48

There are court cases all over the place. Parents both citizens, born anywhere, Born in the US, parents don’t matter, and Parents must be citizens, born in the US.


Well I’ve read the ones which say the nationality of the parent doesn’t matter but I’m not familiar with a single court decision that supports the idea that only a person born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents is a natural born citizen. Nor am I familiar with any case that defines three or more classes of citizenship. Can you point me to one?

Check out post 62. Supposedly from someone who practices in the federal court system.


I’m not saying there is a case that defines 3 classes of citizenship.

I was talking about how depending on who you talk to, and what you read, there seems to be 3 different ideas about what consitutes a ‘Natural born citizen’

1. Born in the US of two US citizens
2. Born in the US = parents citizenship doesn’t matter
3. Born of two US citizens - where born doesn’t matter

And then there are the ‘special circumstances’.

I know it’s not always the greatest source, but the Wikipedia seems to cover all the different ideas about ‘natural born’ citing cases to back up each claim.


150 posted on 06/17/2009 9:28:58 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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