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Cameron's "Titanic" movie, shown on TNT, deletes "Jesus, Mary, Joseph" dialogue...
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Posted on 08/19/2009 12:51:29 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

So, on Saturday night, James Cameron's 1997 movie "TITANIC", with Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio, came on at 7 p.m. I own the original on DVD and have seen that version close to 40 or 50 times. My young son is obsessed with anything that has to do with Titanic, so we've seen it a lot, and I know all of the scenes and most of the dialogue.

As usual, when a movie is shown on TV, any foul language will be deleted, or replaced with other less offensive words. But in this version, I also noticed that when a young Irish woman in the 3rd class lounge yelled out "Jesus, Mary, Joseph" in one of the scenes, that the "Jesus" was mute -- but the "Mary" and "Joseph" could still be heard. Interesting, huh?

Since when does ANYONE find the word "Jesus" offensive enough to mute it out of a TNT movie dialogue?


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: catholic; hollywood; jesus; purge; religion; titanic; tnt

1 posted on 08/19/2009 12:51:30 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: Perdogg

FYI — For your ‘Hollyweird’ Ping List....


2 posted on 08/19/2009 12:52:09 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Actually, itsounds very positive to me! I find it highly offensive when the Lord’s name is taken in vain, and to me, this includes using it in casual dialog.


3 posted on 08/19/2009 12:55:08 PM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Has he seen the one with Barbara Stanwick, much better than that slop they pass as movies today.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 12:56:33 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

The morons at TNT are so stupid that they thought the woman was cursing when she was actually praying.


5 posted on 08/19/2009 12:57:22 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

From the context, as I am not so familiar with that movie, “Jesus” was a name being used in vain. Maybe that’s why. I notice that there’s not a lot of “Oh my God” on some of my food and decorating channels, either. It’s always “Oh my gosh” or “Oh, my goodness.”


6 posted on 08/19/2009 12:57:35 PM PDT by Mamzelle (bring your cameras to all political gatherings--video if you can)
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To: al baby; Artemis Webb; Extremely Extreme Extremist; lainie; lewisglad; PennsylvaniaMom; ...

Do we still get to see Kate Winslet naked?


7 posted on 08/19/2009 12:58:51 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Obadiah

I’m glad you can find the ray of sunshine in that, but you know as well as I do that Turner Network Television (TNT) didn’t mute His name to keep from offending you. I agree it is a positive outcome.....mysterious ways indeed.


8 posted on 08/19/2009 12:59:50 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

They were using the Lord’s name in vain in the movie....for entertainment. It’s a good thing it was taken out, not bad.


9 posted on 08/19/2009 1:00:11 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: svcw

Yes, he’s seen all the Titanic movies made — from 1943, 1958, and other documentaries as well. It’s a wonderful (albeit sad) story.


10 posted on 08/19/2009 1:02:27 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

They should have muffled Leo DiCaprio’s lines :)

Worst movie to ever win an Oscar


11 posted on 08/19/2009 1:03:07 PM PDT by Pharmer (Palin in 2012! We are so screwed! Go Phillies!!!!)
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To: svcw

Marvelous movie and a tear-jerker par excellence!


12 posted on 08/19/2009 1:03:36 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: Perdogg

Unfortunately (for you), in the TNT version, there was no naked Rose a.k.a. Kate Winslet.


13 posted on 08/19/2009 1:03:37 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

The Stanwyck version was made in 1953. Make sure he catches it, if he hasn’t.


14 posted on 08/19/2009 1:05:18 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

lol! I am just kidding around


15 posted on 08/19/2009 1:07:49 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I’ve avoided the movie, is she praying or exclaiming? If she’s exclaiming then it would be using The Lord’s name in vain and that’s usually blanked out. Same reason “goddammit” turns to “[pause]dammit”.


16 posted on 08/19/2009 1:08:06 PM PDT by discostu (Somehow mister reliable was not where he was supposed to be)
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To: Hootowl

Yes, 1953. Yes, he has watched that one with Stanwyck.

I have to say that the 1958 film, “A Night To Remember”, based on the book by Walter Lord, is one of the best — aside from Cameron’s version.


17 posted on 08/19/2009 1:11:24 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: discostu

Yes, she was exclaiming. She was reacting to something amazing that Rose’s character (Kate Winslet) did with her feet.


18 posted on 08/19/2009 1:12:21 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Since when does ANYONE find the word "Jesus" offensive enough to mute it out of a TNT movie dialogue?

If it was being used as an exclamation, then I'm glad it was removed.

There was a survey some years ago that found a disparity in perception of profanity... basically, in rural/religious, i.e., 'red state' areas, people thought 'G**D***' was worse or more offensive profanity than 'F***.' In urban/secular areas it was just the opposite. I definitely hold the former view.

19 posted on 08/19/2009 1:12:31 PM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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To: Perdogg
lol! I am just kidding around

No, you're not!

;-p

20 posted on 08/19/2009 1:13:27 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Sloth

See #18.

I do agree with your explanation, but I do get the feeling that TNT just wanted altogether to remove anything to do with the name of Jesus.


21 posted on 08/19/2009 1:15:07 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Sloth

Interesting; thinking about it, am more likely to hear someone drop the F-bomb than hear the Lord’s name in vain. I’m with you on this one too.


22 posted on 08/19/2009 1:40:04 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
I own the original on DVD and have seen that version close to 40 or 50 times.

my condolences

23 posted on 08/19/2009 1:42:30 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

The Irish woman is presumably Catholic. I’ve never heard anyone but a Catholic use this phrase (as an exclamation of amazement or disbelief at something, much as the movie character does). Growing up Catholic it was something I heard frequently from the older family members. It was never seen as “profanity” — certainly not along the order of g.d. or anything like that, more of a “wow, what’ll they think of next” sort of thing.

??


24 posted on 08/19/2009 1:42:33 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Perdogg

I can still hear my Irish grandpap proclaim ‘Jayz-us, Murry and Joooseef.’

Its just not the same w/o the heavy Brogue.

As to the editing...well maybe somebody at Turner ‘got religion.’ (I crack myself up sometimes).


25 posted on 08/19/2009 2:01:10 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win!" Mahatma Ghandi)
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To: American_Centurion
Frankly, I hadn't thought about it like that. Regardless of their motive, the outcome is the same, the name of the Lord is not blasphemed.
26 posted on 08/19/2009 2:01:46 PM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: svcw

You are so right. With a wonderful cast like they had how could it not be?


27 posted on 08/19/2009 2:18:28 PM PDT by tal hajus
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

That’s not so bad. I’ve seen several movies on TV that edited out all the profanity, but left in the G portion of GD when it was uttered.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 2:22:56 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Obadiah

This wasn’t casual dialogue. This was a woman praying.


29 posted on 08/19/2009 2:40:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: DouglasKC

This was a depiction of a person praying—not someone using God’s name casually.


30 posted on 08/19/2009 2:40:44 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: workerbee

No one in my family (Irish Catholic) ever said “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph” as an exclamation. It was, in fact, one of the specific prayers classed as “aspirations.” “My Jesus, Mercy,” “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,” “O, Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee,” etc.

I never heard the f-bomb until I was 14, when I first went to government school.


31 posted on 08/19/2009 2:49:48 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan; Obadiah; DouglasKC

Actually, the Irish woman in question was reacting to something amazing that Rose (Kate Winslet) did with her feet while dancing.


32 posted on 08/19/2009 3:45:51 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
No offense intened; I wasn't trying to imply that all Catholics used the phrase. Just relaying my own experience. Hearing "J, M & J" wasn't so unusual and as I said, was never said in an "irreverant" manner, if that makes sense. Hearing g-d ... on that rare occasion, you knew someone was gonna get it. No way did I ever hear an f-bomb or equivalent.
33 posted on 08/19/2009 4:25:33 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Its just not the same w/o the heavy Brogue.

LOL, yes, from an Irish friend as well, come to think of it. She has used the phrase more than once.

34 posted on 08/19/2009 4:27:26 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
This was a depiction of a person praying—not someone using God’s name casually.

Even if it was it was the name of Christ being used as entertainment...it wasn't a real prayer. It was a prayer used for entertainment purposes to garner profit.

35 posted on 08/19/2009 4:35:48 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
It was a prayer used for entertainment purposes to garner profit

Sounds like you are describing Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ!

36 posted on 08/19/2009 4:42:27 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
It was a prayer used for entertainment purposes to garner profit Sounds like you are describing Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ!

Very applicable!

37 posted on 08/19/2009 5:30:35 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Praying is a human activity. A laudable and noble human activity. It is legitimate for a dramatic production to depict human activities, both good and evil.

Interestingly, Jim Caviezel has received letters from people who were shocked that he “swore” in some role or other. His response is the correct one: “It’s called ‘ACTING.’”


38 posted on 08/21/2009 12:12:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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