“This is what Obama is trying to duck”
Please answer this,
Why do the faction of birthers who challenge Obama on being a natural born citizen care about the birth certificate when no one denies Obama’s father was not an American citizen?
It’s a smoke-screen.
One that has been gently encouraged by the Obama faction. Certainly it has not been quieted by just releasing the Long form, wiich will actually say that he was born in Hawaii. That would have actually quieted the whole thing down and no one would have been able to get traction on the Natural Born Status issue to begin with, because no one would have been listening to it anymore. If Obama had released his long form in 08, the issue would not have gotten this big. A few people would have been yelling about a British father but on one would have been around to listen. That doesn’t make it any less true however.
Instead Obama has covered it up, and made it a bigger issue in the process. The only problem with that is its a strategy that can easily backfire. And it has. Now people who were paying attention to the COLB issue are going to hear what he is really trying to avoid talking about. His British Father.
There is traction with the Birther movement because people smell a dead rat. That rat really is dead and rotting, its just under their noses, buried in history that is no longer taught in schools.
Because the "two citizen parent" requirement of NBC is a load of bunk that is found nowhere in the U.S. Constitution or established law. It is a fictional device created by birthers to be an eligibility standard that Obama couldn't possibly meet and enjoys support nowhere outside of birther circles.
On January 20th, 2009, a man whose foreign father is a matter of public record was sworn into the office of the presidency by the chief justice of the highest court in the land after a campaign where no one, not his opponents, not the previous administration, not the courts questioned his eligibility.
That's how much of a loser this "two parent citizen" definition of NBC is.
“Why do the faction of birthers who challenge Obama on being a natural born citizen care about the birth certificate when no one denies Obama’s father was not an American citizen?”
There are those in the ‘Birther’ community that hold fast to the belief that he was not born in Hawaii but was instead born in a foreign land such as Indonesia, Kenya, Canada or possibly Seattle. The “long form” birth certificate is said to hold the key to this mystery.
Last summer/fall the argument was that BHO had no American BC at all. This is at least one reason why the first statement from Hawaii was “Yes, we do have a BC on file”. IIRC, this was also the initial onus for BHO showing his BC to certain people friendly to him (factcheck, etc.) .
Then the argument became that BHO may have a BC on file, but it did not list the birthplace as being Hawaii. As I understand, it is a demonstrable fact that the State of Hawaii will issue a COLB for someone born overseas and list the place of birth as being their foreign place of birth. So the BC shown by the BHO camp was declared a clear and incontrovertible forgery by those convinced BHO was born overseas. Several individuals , among them a fellow going by the moniker ‘Polarik’, wrote pages of ramblings about how he determined it was a forgery based on JPG files of the image.
A parallel meme began around this time that it was a simple matter to get Hawaiian BC in 1961 no matter where in the world a person was born. After all, someone did it in 1904. How much harder could it have been in 1961? That no examples of this having happened after 1960 is apparently besides the point.
Anyhow, with every other approach meeting with either a dead end or a sheer cliff, it has been declared that only by examining the “Long Form” the ‘Birthers’ would be able to demonstrate foreign birth by some manner that has yet to be disclosed. Some believe that there is a cover-up and the long form contains a note like “Phoned in by Grandma Dunham in late November” or that BHO’s father was actually Malcolm X. Others believe there is a cover-up and the long form was amended without leaving any kind of legal paper trail. Others still argue that there is a cover-up and that Hawaiian state officials have perjured themselves in official documents while Kenyan politicians clearly are not mistaken or simply lying to play to the crowd.
In short, there are numerous reasons. Some moderately sane. Most a little dodgy. A few quite certifiable.
In the end, it doesn’t really matter.
For those who have already decided that he is hiding something, no amount of document release will satisfy them unless it contains something clearly incriminating BHO with what they wish for him to be incriminated by.
That rather begs the question as to why they think they’ll actually get documents released if there is such incriminating information on them. But I digress....
If a BC shows Frank Marshall Davis as his father (or the groom, as the state of Hawaii recently said), he is a natural born citizen, AND a complete lie.
What ever the truth, it is not as Obama says.
Just to establish that fact legally.
Why do the faction of birthers who challenge Obama on being a natural born citizen care about the birth certificate when no one denies Obama’s father was not an American citizen?
That's just a bone to throw the MSM and after-birther liberals and trolls, first they have to understand the difference between a short and long form birth certificate before they can attempt to grasp the difference between a citizen and a Natural Born Citizen.
See Spot. See Spot run said Jane.
Because he is also guilty of MASSIVE fraud !
His COLB does NOT match Hawaiian records.
In fact, they haven’t even admitted to releasing ANY BC info to him (short or long form) EVER, since 1961 !
Obama is an inveterate liar, just about sociopathic in that regard, the WORST that I have ever seen in ANY (alleged)president. He has lied, in public speechs and with the written word on MULTIPLE occasions about his family history. We cant take his unverified word for ANYTHING. We MUST establish his paternity with corroborative documentary evidence. As much as I loath this lying marxist demagogue, we MUST properly establish our legal and constitutional case to rid ourselves of this presidential horror.