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To: tired_old_conservative
“Do you think Hawaii Dept of Health would describe themselves as legally obligated to step in and say, “No, that image on the web does not accurately reflect the records we have on file?”

Yes. I do. It's really that simple.

Then please cite the law or regulation which so obligates them.

193 posted on 12/28/2009 4:18:07 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
No offense, but on your planet do states let people present falsified birth documents on a national platform with impunity when the state has no record of the person actually being born there? On mine, they don't. Hawaii's response to date makes it obvious they have documentation in their records stating that Obama was born in Hawaii.

From the Honolulu Advertiser:

[[The Obama campaign said it has posted a copy of his birth certificate at www.fightthesmears.com in response to Internet chatter that the Illinois senator is not a natural-born citizen. But the posting has done little to curb the nearly weekly requests to the Health Department for copies of the original, Okubo said.

Some skeptics point to the lack of an official state seal on the birth certificate posted on the Obama campaign Web site.

But seals often are placed on the back of the birth certificate, Okubo said, “and whether it shows through depends on how much force was put into it.”

Others wonder why a large black rectangle appears next to the words, “CERTIFICATE NO.”

“The thing that's redacted is just our file number,” she said. “Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system.”

Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries “to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions,” she said.

“They responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate,” Okubo said. “They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous.”]]

It's really not ambiguous. All credible information indicates that Obama really was born in Hawaii. Okubo and company really are just hapless bureaucrats being hassled by a delusional fringe element. If it bothers people so much, they should try and get laws passed in their state as to what constitutes proper certification for the ballot, not pursue court cases that are deranged and incompetent. I'm sorry, but that's what they are.

195 posted on 12/29/2009 1:54:02 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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