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To: tired_old_conservative
“In this context, Hawaii representatives specifically said they have verified they have the original records. The only reasonable interpretation of that is that said records say he was born in Hawaii. At that point, it doesn't even matter if his grandmother filed it. It's done.”

If his grandmother filed it “It's done”???

If his grandmother filed it with no hospital or doctor corroboration, he could have been born anywhere. HI was very lax in requiring evidence of actual HI birth even as much as a year or more after an alleged birth.

A grandmother report is exactly the type of HI vital record that opens the serious possibility of a Kenya birth, while a hospital long form with a doctor's signature would shut down that possibility in my mind.

Remember the incessant lefty insult hurled at Bush that he was “incurious”? In my view, folks satisfied with Obama’s failure to release his HI vital records are incurious.

194 posted on 12/28/2009 4:50:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
It doesn't matter what the source of the information is.

Whatever his birth certificate says was recorded and filed over forty years ago. It is the legal, factual record of his birth. Finding out his grandmother filed it, which we have no reason to believe is the case, all hyperventilating aside, doesn't change that. It would get the birthers all excited again, but they still have no meaningful factual evidence to dispute the legal records of the state in question. Even assuming you could get this before a court, which I don't think you can, the court would be left with the official record of the state in question versus some people with a bunch of suspicions forty years after the fact. In our legal system, that's no contest.

196 posted on 12/29/2009 2:00:19 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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