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Abortion Should Not be an Issue
From SeaTto Shining Sea ^ | 1/09/10 | Purple Mountains

Posted on 01/09/2010 5:15:11 AM PST by PurpleMountains

The other day a Republican leader was talking about the divide between conservatives and moderates that threatens the viability of the Republican Party and threatens our ability to win absolutely necessary elections in 2010 and 2012. If they pass Obamacare and/or Cap & Trade, we must have a Republican majority in Congress in place in January, 2013, and a Republican president as well in order to kill these terrible ideas.

In speaking of a so-called, “litmus test” for Republican contenders who will be acceptable to conservatives and Tea Party supporters, he went on to say that abortion is the issue that divides conservative Republicans from moderate Republicans. I strongly disagree. Although I am personally opposed to abortion, I would never reject a person who demonstrates traditional, conservative views on the role of government because he differs from me on this one issue, abortion.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; conservative; foundingfathers; republic

1 posted on 01/09/2010 5:15:13 AM PST by PurpleMountains
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To: PurpleMountains

Abortion is not one issue, acceptance of it makes it clear that the person in question does not hold conservative, traditional values. We will have to find some other area to compromise, it won’t be abortion for too many of us.


2 posted on 01/09/2010 5:19:13 AM PST by Dr. Sivana
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To: PurpleMountains

I completely disagree.


3 posted on 01/09/2010 5:25:33 AM PST by rae4palin (islam is of the devil)
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To: PurpleMountains

If the MOST basic principle regarding the the right to LIFE is discarded, there is NO solid foundation for all other principles.

I respectfully, but strongly, disagree with your thinking on this.


4 posted on 01/09/2010 5:31:02 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: PurpleMountains

If you are willing to overlook millions of dead babies in order to save a few lousy scraps of fiat paper issued by a corrupt government, you deserve everything the Marxists will do to you, and more besides.


5 posted on 01/09/2010 5:37:42 AM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Dr. Sivana; SumProVita
> acceptance of it makes it clear that the person in question does not hold conservative, traditional values

> If the MOST basic principle regarding the the right to LIFE is discarded, there is NO solid foundation for all other principles.

This is precisely the point. Over the years, I have tried (usually to no avail) to make this point understood to those who call themselves conservative.

My conclusion has been that they're too concerned about "offending" their pro-abortion colleagues and friends and want to come across as "reasonable" and open to compromise. This has the opposite effect -- instead, the liberal thinks, "This guy doesn't have a whole lot of gumption -- we can use this to run roughshod over him whenever we want, for ANY of his political/moral positions." And it works. Those semi-conservatives continue to enable this behavior in liberals, never realizing how they allow themselves to be had.

6 posted on 01/09/2010 5:41:17 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

“This has the opposite effect ...

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 01/09/2010 5:47:10 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Anti-Utopian

“If you are willing to overlook millions of dead babies in order to save a few lousy scraps of fiat paper issued by a corrupt government, you deserve everything the Marxists will do to you, and more besides.”

AMEN!

To me; Abortion is the taking of innocent Human Life.

Why should taxpayer(s) be forced to fund this madness? Where’s our choice?


8 posted on 01/09/2010 6:04:58 AM PST by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: PurpleMountains
Kids comming up now are starting to see through the propaganda and will not be for abortion. We killed 50M of our tax payers and that is one reason why social security died on us.
9 posted on 01/09/2010 6:09:33 AM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: EnglishOnly

Not a religious question at all. The Federal Government should not be paying for elective surgical procedures, including abortion, sex change, breast enlargement etc etc.
That’s the way it should be proposed and it will pass. Leave your personal religious belief out of this and you have a chance at success. Continue to push your religious beliefs on other people and you will fail.


10 posted on 01/09/2010 6:10:57 AM PST by refermech
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To: EnglishOnly

In reading many of the above comments I have to conclude that most did not even read my article, only the lead-in.


11 posted on 01/09/2010 6:57:31 AM PST by PurpleMountains
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To: PurpleMountains
Being “pro-life” is an ADVANTAGE in every single district in the country!

Poll after poll has shown that the public opposes taxpayer funded abortions and partial birth abortions and that the public supports parental consent laws.

More to the point, the prolife voters are FAR more motivated than the “pro-choice” voters.

If you take the number of people who vote “single issue” prolife and subtract from that number the people who vote “single issue” “pro choice” the prolife side has an ADVANTAGE of 3% to 8% MINIMUM all over the country!

Yes, being prolife can hurt in fund raising, especially on the Democrat side -— but among the voters, the prolife position is ALWAYS a WINNER!

Neil Bortz and other Libertarians are free to hold whatever views they hold, but they display pure ignorance, on the politics of this matter.

12 posted on 01/09/2010 6:59:08 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

“Being “pro-life” is an ADVANTAGE in every single district in the country!”

Yes, I agree. But will YOU support a Republican primary winner who is for saving the republic, but has no interest in overturning a law on our books for 37 years?

We are at risk of losing our country right now.


13 posted on 01/09/2010 7:43:31 AM PST by PurpleMountains
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To: PurpleMountains
Yes, I have in the past.

However, such a Republican MUST do something, to help keep the ranks together.

Oppose taxpayer funding or SOMETHING!

But, as I tell the radicals on the Prolife side: A nuclear war will kill ALL of us, babies and adults alike!

You are correct, national security does eclipse abortion!

14 posted on 01/09/2010 8:45:38 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: PurpleMountains

I agree with the majority of voters. I WILL NOT support any candidate who is even vague on pro-life. Life, in all its stages, must be protected. I will vote for a candidate who does not share my views on taxes, national security, the environment, energy, anything, if he/she is completely pro-life. Palin and her LIFE CHOICE for her son speaks volumes.

The poster who proposed the idea of non-elective surgeries, may be on to a short term solution—as in get through 2010 election— but that is as far as that will take us. There is a strong and growing movement who now “gets it” about life and the value of it. That movement understands that the slope of abortion leads to euthanasia and the current implications of those non-existent “death panels” within our soon to be healthcare system.

There is no more time left for compromise. The time has come to stand our ground.


15 posted on 01/09/2010 9:10:32 AM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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To: PurpleMountains
I agree....to an extent. When it comes to abortion, it really comes down to Supreme Court justices. Roe v. Wade will never be overturned if the court is packed with liberal justices. IMO, a Republican who is conservative on everything but abortion is quite likely to support a conservative anti-abortion President's Constitutional Originalist pick. However, a 'Rat so-called pro-lifer will almost always vote to approve a liberal pro-choice justice.

It really comes down to how they would vote for judges. We should IMO support candidates who are likely to vote to approve judges who would overturn Roe v. Wade, regardless of how they personally feel about abortion.

16 posted on 01/09/2010 11:58:08 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Dr. Sivana
So you are not supporting Scott Brown in Massachusetts?
17 posted on 01/14/2010 1:05:44 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Rubio 2010 , Hoffman 2010 , Palin 2012)
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To: Sarabaracuda
So you are not supporting Scott Brown in Massachusetts?

That is a fair question. When Lazio ran against HRC in NY, I had formulated what I called "The Vampire Exemption." The idea being that to stop a vampire (hillary) you sometimes are forced to hire unsavory characters. When the hired gun is done, you don't want too much to do with him anymore.

I won't be donating to Brown's campaign. I do hope for Coakley to lose, which means that Brown wins. Because Obamacare may hang on one vote a whole bunch of hypotheticals are forced into play.

If Brown gets in, I know he would be about as good as we can expet from MA. Of course, people might say the same about Snowe and Collins in Maine. In the case of Snowe and Collins, they have demonstrated that they are pro-abort true-believers. I believe Brown is more of a pragmatist. I don't believe he would try to undermine the national platform etc., but I'm not sure he won't, either. I wouldn't want him in a foxhole with me, but I might be willing to do business with him to avoid a greater evil. I do hope Brown wins, but I can't say I support him. I'm sorry if that sounds muddled.
18 posted on 01/14/2010 2:22:54 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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