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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

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To: browardchad; Mik Taerg

mik taerg (discover of the Helton /Heltan phenomenon) is now famous ....see #800 Very funny


801 posted on 05/05/2010 8:05:52 AM PDT by woofie
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To: LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; circumbendibus; Fantasywriter; ...

BirtherReport has a new article by Lucas Smith (banned FReeper) in which he claims that the Dominican Republic is trying to deport him to Kenya for bribing Kenyan officials. Smith includes a scan of a government document in support of his claimed attempted deportation.

Smith also provides a clean scan of a claimed newly acquired 1963 birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital (unrelated to Barry) that has the identical format as Barry’s.

Having been zotted back in 2010 for putting up one too many threads about Lucas Smith’s claims I am putting this article here and hoping that I will be spared the zot.

I do not vouch for Smith’s claims in any way, given his criminal record and despicable comments and behavior, yet I believe his claims deserve forensic scrutiny and his claims should be allowed to stand or fall based on what is found to be true about the evidence and not based on Smith’s character.

BirtherReport includes a link to the clean claimed CPGH BC for Barry with much higher resolution of the baby footprint.

“Breaking: Person With Obama’s Alleged Kenyan Birth Certificate Arrested; Extradition To Kenya”

http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/03/breaking-person-with-obamas-alleged.html

“Earlier this year I was able to obtain, from contacts in Kenya, a tangible (paper) certified-copy (Jan. 16, 2014) of a birth certificate which was originally issued in the year 1963 by the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya for a male child with name Russell Leslie Oppenheim who was born on May 13th, 1963...”

(image provided)

“On or about the 4th day of February 2014 while I was physically present in the Dominican Republic, the National Police (Policia Nacional) raided my home in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic with an arrest warrant for extradition to Kenya on criminal charges of allegedly bribing government officials in Kenya.”

“I am consulting with a law firm in the Dominican Republic to assist me in legally contesting and opposing extradition to Kenya. I will be disclosing documents which are direct components of this litigation in a series of WOBIK blog reports, including today’s report. The following document was recently made available to me and, as far as I currently know, is one of the earliest (though not the earliest) documents in the extradition, to Kenya, case...”

(image provided)


802 posted on 03/29/2014 7:30:54 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
Having been zotted back in 2010 for putting up one too many threads about Lucas Smith’s claims I am putting this article here and hoping that I will be spared the zot.

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

803 posted on 03/29/2014 7:43:20 AM PDT by null and void ( Everything evil in the world may not be Islamic but everything Islamic is evil.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Obama and Hawaiian DoH Director Fuddy’s Convenient Death

http://h2ooflife.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/fuddys-convenient-death/


804 posted on 03/29/2014 7:54:04 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; butterdezillion; maggief; WildHighlander57; Seizethecarp

Has anyone seen the report of why the plane crashed as mentioned in the above link posted by H mike?

First thing that came to mind is how details of a murder are sometime held by LEO in confidence until all other leads are followed


805 posted on 03/29/2014 8:41:14 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

Per the writer of the article says, it hasn’t come out:

“....That seems like plenty of questions surrounding her death, but the public is left with one more huge one; and that is; “what were the results of the NTSB investigation of the cause of the engine failure?”
If you do a search for answers you’ll find absolutely nothing after the January autopsy results. At least on the first few pages. It’s all regurgitation of the crash and autopsy news. End of story. Now it’s over three months later. What the heck happened?

They would have found an answer within a week of getting the engine, but just try to use the NTSB website search engine to find anything. You’ll find zip. Nada. Wouldn’t you think there was some data-base of plane crashes and investigation results? Is the NTSB in the stone age or are they just under the domination of Obama’s enforcers and hiding the results.
What kind of results would Obama need to hide? A bullet hole for one, -a bomb explosion for another. Something caused that muffled bang. ....”

And nothing mentioned about a murder investigation having been started...

Unless...

I’ll leave it at that :0


806 posted on 03/29/2014 9:13:04 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Seizethecarp

I lived thru the 2010 ‘Kenyan Birth Certificate’ hoax on Free Republic.

The forger ended up mocking Freepers after 3 weeks of watching them stay up all night analyzing his awkward forgery.

Threads at that time were running over 1,000 posts.

Moslems and Marxists pull the same Disinformation tricks year after year because they WORK.

Communism ‘makes everyone equal.’ That lie has worked every year for the past 150 years.

They figure out what ppl want to believe, then they hand it to you in the form of THE BIG LIE.

Also, the Shrimpton ‘born in Kenya’ video recently popped up after 7 years hiding under a rock?

This Kenya hoax worked before, it’s working today, and in 3 years they’ll roll it out again.


807 posted on 03/29/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: crosslink; hoosiermama; maggief; null and void; LucyT; butterdezillion; Hotlanta Mike

PIng to the snippet in #806; from the link in #804.

(link: http://h2ooflife.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/fuddys-convenient-death/ )

many thanks, hotlanta mike!


808 posted on 03/29/2014 10:02:36 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: LyinLibs; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; circumbendibus; ...

“I lived thru the 2010 ‘Kenyan Birth Certificate’ hoax on Free Republic.”

The 2009 claims of Lucas Smith and going forward are NOT the same as the 2009 Bomford/Lavender BC hoax boasted convincingly, IMO, to have punked eligibility activists by an Obot. Do not conflate Smith’s BC with Bomford or Blaine forgeries, please! And please do not use conflation of proved forgeries with still open BC investigations to dissuade FReepers from participating in further BC investigations. Just because Obots have created many fake BCs to throw us off doesn’t mean Smith’s BC is fake. Smith’s BC must be evaluated on its own forensic characteristics.

IMO as a retired CPA and Certified Fraud Examiner (CFE), the Lucas Smith claims have never been conclusively debunked on any single point, despite whatever shortcomings Smith may have personally.

In Sept. 2009 Lucas Smith showed up in federal court in Orly’s case before Judge Carter with an affidavit swearing on penalty of perjury that his 2009 certified copy of a Kenyan BC for Barry was obtained by him by bribing officials...thereby inviting federal prosecution by Eric Holder...which never happened. I wonder why that is. Could it be that prosecution of Smith would have required DISCOVERY of whether his Coast Province General Hospital BC was genuine?

Smith filed a second affidavit in 2009 in Judge Carter’s court claiming that Orly asked Smith to perjure himself by testifying that he was the one who obtained the Bomford BC from Kenya and gave it to Orly. Judge Carter apparently found Smith’s affidavit to be so persuasive that he admonished Taitz from the bench, to which she loudly objected. Full disclosure: I had given money to Taitz up to this episode and I also found Smith’s affidavit to be persuasive, despite his record as a convicted felon.

In 2013 Smith published a pristine clear scan of the CPGH BC with detail of the baby’s footprint so clear that subpoena of Barry’s foot in a discovery ordered by a federal court could determine whether the BC was genuine.

As I said, that image is at the link to the new BirtherReport article.

I invite FReepers to carefully follow Smith’s new claims and to subject them to the highest level of skepticism and scrutiny.

It would help for a Spanish speaking FReeper to help translate the document that Smith claims is some kind of evidence that the Dominican Republic is trying to extradite him. Also, a translation of Dominican Rep. extradition statutes would help, if anyone is interested.


809 posted on 03/29/2014 11:32:44 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp; LyinLibs

Here is the Bomford/Lavender BC hoaxer who came to FR on this thread as the “KenyanBCPunkster” teaming up with super OBot troll EnderWiggins:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2457491/posts?page=3427#3427

Smith and the ‘KenyanBCPunkster’ are not the same guy.


810 posted on 03/29/2014 11:44:06 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

“Smith and the ‘KenyanBCPunkster’ are not the same guy.”

Ok, but I stand by my position.

Hussein WASN’T born in Kenya.

My guess for birthplace = Indonesia (if he’s SOEBARKAH); New York (if he’s SHABAZZ).

If he’s neither of those 2, my wildcard guesses are:

Pacific Islander.

Middle Eastern (from the skinniest populace over there).

I don’t believe he’s half-black. He’s a moslem with Pacific genes.

This ‘Born in Kenya’ disinformation is bogus b/c HIS FATHER WASN’T OBAMA SENIOR.

Look at Obama Senior, then look at Obama.

He ‘Met his father (Obama Sr) ONCE? TWICE?’

Senior never claimed/listed his ‘son’ on the application mentioned by Corsi. He listed some other son, however.

Obama Sr is part of Hussein’s cover story.

All these ‘Sudden KENYA documents and Shrimpton videos’ right before Arpaio’s press conference is classic Disinfo (muddying the waters) b/c people are stupid and fall for anything.

If I knew taking over the USA was this easy, I would have started robbing banks 20 years ago, with my own name printed in huge letters on my day-glo orange T-Shirt.


811 posted on 03/29/2014 11:54:36 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Red Steel; All

“Smith and the ‘KenyanBCPunkster’ are not the same guy.”

Ok, but I stand by my position.

Hussein WASN’T born in Kenya.

My guess for birthplace = Indonesia (if he’s SOEBARKAH); New York (if he’s SHABAZZ).

If he’s neither of those 2, my wildcard guesses are:

Pacific Islander.

Middle Eastern (from the skinniest populace over there).

I don’t believe he’s half-black. He’s a moslem with Pacific genes.

This ‘Born in Kenya’ disinformation is bogus b/c HIS FATHER WASN’T OBAMA SENIOR.

Look at Obama Senior, then look at Obama.

He ‘Met his father (Obama Sr) ONCE? TWICE?’

Senior never claimed/listed his ‘son’ on the application mentioned by Corsi. He listed some other son, however.

Obama Sr is part of Hussein’s cover story.

All these ‘Sudden KENYA documents and Shrimpton videos’ right before Arpaio’s press conference is classic Disinfo (muddying the waters) b/c people are stupid and fall for anything.

If I knew taking over the USA was this easy, I would have started robbing banks 20 years ago, with my own name printed in huge letters on my day-glo orange T-Shirt.


812 posted on 03/29/2014 11:55:13 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: LyinLibs; Seizethecarp

I’ve seen so much crap on Obama you could be right. I keep an open mind to all possibilities with this guy. Nerks could be right that there was a switcharoo, and maybe even 2 kids like identical twins who do sometimes using the same identity in the early years as BO/Soetoro or what evah he’s called. I expect when we get the no crap proof on Obama’s hidden past is it to be on bizarro side.

In the meantime, I’ll just wait for Arpaio’s investigation, which is coming in the not too distant future with his evidence and proof to move the ball forward.


813 posted on 03/29/2014 12:11:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Seizethecarp; All

If the Marxists can keep us circle-jerking among ourselves over the latest ‘suddenly found’ Kenyan Birth Certificate, then we have less time to spread the word and build audience for the upcoming Press Conferences.

According to Zullo, Press Conferences 1 and 2 ‘Stopped at the Arizona border.’

Friends of Zullo on the east coast STILL have no idea he gave those press conferences. They were never aware 1 & 2 happened.

Spreading the word should be our priority now. If we want to dissect yet another ‘magically delicious’ Kenyan BC that pops up 2 weeks before the upcoming Arpaio press conference, we have all the time in the world, afterward.

They’ve played the US citizenry for morons by installing the camel-riding Commie from __________ with 7 SSNs. Let’s not compound the problem by taking the bait 2 weeks before the press conference, when we need to be pushing to make this a Nationwide event.

Mark my words: BHO Senior is N-O-T the father of that piece of moslem marxist crap.

BHO was NOT born ‘in Kenya.’

He’s either born in NY (if he’s Shabazz) or God-knows-where (if he’s a foreign moslem agent).


814 posted on 03/29/2014 12:16:30 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Red Steel; All

“Smith and the ‘KenyanBCPunkster’ are not the same guy.”

And one more thing:

This new-and-improved ‘Kenyan Birth Certificate’ hoax sounds exactly like the Nigerian Scams, where you get an Email from a scam artist that APPEARS TO COME FROM THE ADDRESS of somebody you know.

The new scam artist claims to be ‘held against his will’ in ____________ (Dominican Republic; or fill in the blank)?

In the Nigerian scams, the scam artist (pretending to be somebody you DO know) frantically alerts you (via email) that he’s stuck at the police station in Djibouti because somebody stole his wallet and he couldn’t pay the bus fare for the bus transfer, so the cops were called and didn’t believe him, so they arrested him, and now he’s stuck at the station and they won’t let him go and he finally managed to charm them into letting him go, but they can’t let him go unless he pays the fine since they don’t want to get in trouble for letting him go, so please please wire $400 to the Western Union right across the street here in Djibouti and they will get the $400 and release him and this nightmare will be over! Please, Red Steel, wire me $400! Help me, Obi-Wan, you’re my only hope!


815 posted on 03/29/2014 12:23:48 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: LyinLibs; Seizethecarp; LucyT; Red Steel

And how do you explain the freeper who was a missionary in Kenya who gave great detail of his birth there years before he announced he was running for president.
This entire BIRTHER movement started with her eye witness account and freepers attempts to provide documentation to support her

It was Phillio Bergs case ( a Hillary Supporter) that gave us the nod that others knew and were investigating the details also. Her memory was right on track with a few variations by others
Berg led the entire movement into civil court with lawsuit after lawsuit that had no standing. Cases should have been filed in criminal court. As was said recently a felony is a felony is a felony finally sheriff Joe gets it!

Most of the rest of hese hresds have been wild goose chases and disinformation propagated by operatives or folks hunting for a premise for a novel (If the shoe fits kick yourself in the a-— and get off the threads!)


816 posted on 03/29/2014 1:26:07 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: LyinLibs; Seizethecarp; All

What is provable beyond a doubt a forgery is Obama’s White House birf cert.

It’s an Obama forced error. Lets go back to April, 2011 when Obama went into panic mode as he saw the poll numbers reach into the 50% to 60% questioning his official birth story and Trump was everywhere in the news.

It’s a long limb that the Obama Admin. went out on where it is just begging to be sawed off.

Proof could come as follows,

- if someone found a genuine Hawaiian newspaper from August 1961 where there is no Obama birth announcement.

- or Arpaio got his hands on Sunahara’s birth certificate that has 151-1961-010641 that is the same as Obama’s fake BCs.

- or the so-called missing page 10 or 11 of the Dunham and Obama Sr. divorce decree.

- or the break in and ‘cauterization’ to the Obama’s State Department record just happens they missed the backup data copies. Oh, the government backs up their computer data files in multiples where many are in off-site locations.

- or any number of official documents I haven’t mentioned that can be vetted for authentication. And any of the above in combination that happen to get publicly known.

Are you or anyone here familiar with contradiction and valid arguments using math?

If p then q
~q

therefore ~p
Or as written:
Obama’s HI BC is assigned 151-1961-010641, then Obama’s White House Birth Certificate is genuine.

Obama’s White House BC assigned number is NOT 151-1961-010641.

Therefore Obama’s BC is a forgery.

Simple stuff.

It is the key to unraveling Obama’s past, and for me to have a good time hammering every OBot and alike with it. ;-)


817 posted on 03/29/2014 1:29:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Slight error.

Obama’s HI BC is assigned 151-1961-010641, then Obama’s White House Birth Certificate is genuine.

Flip the position of these two statements to be aligned correctly with,

"If p then q

~q

therefore ~p "

Heehee. ;-)

818 posted on 03/29/2014 1:40:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Seizethecarp

The way to know Lucas Smith is a BS artist is to find his first forays into internet fame ...his ebay auction of his BC. There were a number of inconsistencies in his story ..the story changed and he posted some pictures of Africa that looked an awful lot like the Dominican Republic ...not to mention his past history of petty crimes and his video of the arrival of the BC. (which looked more than fake)

Also he would never come across with simple evidence to prove he actually went to Kenya

In short if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...etc etc

As to the Bomford BC I figured out that in all probability it was done by a well known art expert then ZXat the Getty Museum who was named Bomford . He was a good liberal, he had a nephew or two who were techies and I found some communication between them and some other clues on the net.

I sent Mr Bomford an email and heard back from him ...he said it was curious that his family name was involved in the hoax but I strongly suspect him as he was quite knowledgeable about historical forgeries etc in the art world

In hindsight its a waste of time to worry about any of these guys.... You can spend your whole life trying to disprove what someone claims when it is obviously a fraud


819 posted on 03/29/2014 1:41:47 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Seizethecarp

“thereby inviting federal prosecution by Eric Holder.”

IANAL but in IMO, you are wrong about this. Since the case never went to trial, it was never admitted as evidence only submitted with the complaint and as such Smith would not be considered guilty of perjury. In any case, this was a civil case and civil perjury is rarely prosecuted.

Another problem is the fact it was obtained illegally (through bribery) and it’s provence and authenticity are therefore in doubt. It would never be admitted in court.

YMMV


820 posted on 03/29/2014 1:46:15 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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