You Are Unpaid Participants in Fluoride Experiments

http://open.salon.com/blog ^ | May 2, 2010 | nyscof

[cripplecreek]

No I’m not.

[ASA Vet]

There was a DDT thread a couple weeks ago, we were overdue for a Fluoride thread.

[Amagi]

[Irenic]

psssh mid 90’s North Carolina schools made kids take a fluoride wash everyday at school.

[ASA Vet]

Nice photo, but the dial-up folks are going to hate you.

[Sudetenland]

General Jack D. Ripper: "Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream."

Group Captain Lionel Mandrake: "Lord, Jack."

Ripper: "You know when fluoridation first began?"

Mandrake: "Aye, no, no. I don't Jack."

Ripper: "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? Its incredibly obvious isn't it. A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

[al baby]

Whats Dial up?

[ASA Vet]

Link to the DDT thread

[NavyCanDo]

Often listening to how my Dentist father-in-law feels about this silly fear of Fluoride, I have to be on the side of the “Not this @&it again” side of the debate.

In practice since the mid 1960’s he has watched kids cavities take a dramatic plunge - and there is no question that Fluoride in water and toothpaste is most of the reason. In his words the Fluoride Experiments went quite well.

[ASA Vet]

Dial up is something not available to us VIC 20 users.

[Vineyard]

Yes ...but there were many decades BEFORE the governments starting adding fluoride to water - where natural fluoride in water was drunk by unsuspecting people.

Areas in the Southwest - including areas of Texas, has groundwater used for drinking water that has much higher concentrations of fluoride than is usually added in cities. I had an uncle who grew up in such an area. The higher fluoride in the water actually caused his teeth to have brown spots - but he never had any cavities!! (And BTW - it was this sort of long-term experience that caused people to consider that fluoridation of water would reduce cavities. And the people who proposed adding fluoride to water were able to show that the people in the regions where they were regularly consuming higher quantities of fluoride had no abnormal problems (or any problems had the same statistical chance of occurring as in areas without fluoride in water.)

So ....the studies should be evaluated as to whether or not there is a degree of hysteria in the study. Recall that there are many studies showing dangers of amalgam fillings or using Thimerisol as a preservative in medicines - yet most studies declare that the amalgam fillings are very safe, and Thimerisol is a safe preservative - and the other studies are based on junk science. Buyer beware!! Are the studies reliable - or are they the equivalent of the Anthropomorphic Global Warming hyped studies?

[InABunkerUnderSF]

Purity of Essence Alert?

[Man50D]

My uncle, a retired physician, has been on a crusade for the last three years to rid fluoride from the water supply.

[nyscof]

Naturally occur fluoride is generally calcium fluoride. We now know that calcium is required for healthy Teeth. Back in the day, researchers ignored calcium and other tooth-building ingreadients of water and focused on fluoride because it’s what discolored the decay resistent teeth. So they theorized that fluoride was an essential nutrient required for healthy teeth and they were wrong.

Modern science indicates that ingesting fluoride does not reduce tooth decay. Fluoride hardens teeth topically only.

Natural fluoride in water supplies has crippled and killed many people in the world

[Jack Hydrazine]

From the info I have come across flouride was first used in the Soviet gulag and in Nazi concentration camps. The reason? To keep their subjects docile and compliant.

[nyscof]

Your uncle is a hero. If he hasn’t already, he should sign the professionals statement opposed to fluoridation here

http://www.fluorideaction.org/statement.august.2007.html

[allmendream]

I was the nontreatment group control of the Flouride Experiment.

I grew up drinking pure natural well water pumped by a solar panel on the family farm.

I have a TON of cavities.

I wish I drank floridated water.

[silverleaf]

people scoff that autism and ADHD are epidemic compared to the good ol’ days when kids just got spanked

[nyscof]

Read what happened to people who grew up in the first fluoridated city Grand Rapids, Michigan

I’m 53, from Dutch background, born 1952 in Grand Rapids, Michigan - the first city in the US to get fluoride added to the water, starting in 1945. I think it’s possible that genetic susceptibility is involved, but my close relatives in Holland, where it’s against the law to add fluoride to the water, don’t have thyroid disease, and the relatives here who live in fluoridated cities do. My American relatives who stayed on the farm drinking well water lived into their nineties! Most of my mother’s high school friends who stayed in Grand Rapids are either dead of cancer or have Alzheimer’s. These are women who should be still healthy and functional in their seventies - nonsmokers, educated, involved in church and community, stable middle class incomes, not overweight.
Continued:

http://www.slweb.org/ftrcpersonalstories_aliss.html

there are many others