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TRSoL Exclusive: HI Elections Clerk: "I believe Obama is eligible to hold office"
The Right Side of Life ^ | 06/11/2010 | Phil

Posted on 06/11/2010 7:18:27 AM PDT by Phil_GA

As I am about to show, WorldNetDaily only got half of their story right (full disclosure: The Right Side of Life.com has been featured on WND in the past and I still "trust but verify" what they post, most of the time).

I decided to actually contact Mr. Tim Adams at the email address linked in the Western Kentucky University faculty page mentioned in the WND article to find out for myself (and for you, loyal TRSoL readers) why he chose to "come out" now regarding the alleged quotes that WND has posted. ...

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To: Cheerio
Yes, his mother was an American. But was she old enough to confer US citizenship on little Barry at her then age of 18 under the law on Aug. 4, 1961?

Nope. Here is the law:

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

Link to State Department Listing of Law

21 posted on 06/11/2010 8:02:32 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: autumnraine

The marriage in Kenya was legal in Kenya, in Britain, and in the US. Therefore, he could not get legally married in the US.

Had he taken Ann to Kenya to marry her there still would have been legal issues concerning that marriage as she was white, he was black, and he already had a Tribal marriage.


22 posted on 06/11/2010 8:05:51 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Phil_GA
Then I suppose it's a good thing that I don't create postings to make everyone happy, now, isn't it?

Setting the snarky-ism aside for a moment, the bottom line is that I have only ever claimed that WND insinuated (and fully italicized this for emphasis in my posting just prior to my sharing email information from Mr. Adams) that, somehow, whatever Mr. Adams ran across, this should lead any reasonable person to assume that this contracted elections officer (a position of which I don't know is actually true to begin with) is confirming that Mr. Obama is, by extension of not having a birth certificate (original WND report), ineligible for the presidency. That is, in my view, WND's (here's that word again) insinuation, and definitely not Mr. Adams'.

I never claimed to be unbiased either; I only claim to stir the proverbial pudding and to knock down perceptions that might not necessarily be completely true. -Phil


Huh?!?

Phil you don't get it. It's not about making anyone happy. It's about factually relaying information which WND did. By your own admission you strain at gnats only to swallow camels. In other words while you're attempting to, "knock down perceptions that might not necessarily be completely true." What you actually did was allow your own bias to construct the false premises that you claim to fight against. Ergo creating a loop ad infinitum of your own mistrust and misinformation.
23 posted on 06/11/2010 8:14:56 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: RummyChick

There was documentation to the marriage? Because I really question the legal in Britain thing. If no marraige was filed legally, how was it legal? From every account I have read, it was strictly a religious ceremony with no legal filing. It was the islamic way to get around polygamy laws they lived under when they were still under British law/rule.


24 posted on 06/11/2010 8:18:29 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Alaphiah123
Huh?!?

Phil you don't get it. It's not about making anyone happy. It's about factually relaying information which WND did. By your own admission you strain at gnats only to swallow camels. In other words while you're attempting to, "knock down perceptions that might not necessarily be completely true." What you actually did was allow your own bias to construct the false premises that you claim to fight against. Ergo creating a loop ad infinitum of your own mistrust and misinformation.

Ah, well -- I guess I just don't "get it."

That's OK. My site's been following the eligibility issue since late 2008, so I have a veritable portfolio of evidence for the casual observer to either confirm or deny what you claim about me.

-Phil

25 posted on 06/11/2010 8:18:51 AM PDT by Phil_GA (http://www.therightsideoflife.com)
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To: Phil_GA
was actually just in Nashville, observing a conservative political conference, I’m not a member of any kind of group, and too liberal for these guys, when James Edwards, the host of the Political Cesspool, heard about me from someone and asked if I would simply state what I had observed and been told while working in Hawaii. I believe Pres. Obama was born a United States citizen, and is eligible to hold office, I find the idea that because he was probably born outside of the U.S., he must be some kind of alien to be basically racist.

He wasn't just "observing" this conference, he dressed up like Hunter S. Thompson and went all "gonzo" journalism on them, even managing to get on their neo-Nazi radio show, as he explains on his Youtube page (user ID xray3delta). He's probably having a good laugh at all the conservative blogs who picked up this story and ran with it.

26 posted on 06/11/2010 8:21:27 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Phil_GA

You like anyone else may have some truth on your blog but is it the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Which seems to be your standard?

And should we examine everything you write to knock down perceptions that might not necessarily be completely true in your blogging?

Just from what you’ve posted today we would find your blog woefully beneath your own standards for truth.

Regards
Al


27 posted on 06/11/2010 8:36:21 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Alaphiah123
You like anyone else may have some truth on your blog but is it the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Which seems to be your standard?

And should we examine everything you write to knock down perceptions that might not necessarily be completely true in your blogging?

Just from what you’ve posted today we would find your blog woefully beneath your own standards for truth.

Regards
Al

I'm sorry, but I don't think I claimed to know all truth, nor did I claim (as I've already stated) to be unbiased and, by extension, 100% statistically objective.

My only standard is to post on issues I think are important based on what I know about the facts. This used to be called "reporting."

And, as I've said before, go right ahead and sift through my postings on my site. It's on public display for anyone to see. In fact, I even have it indexed on most major search sites as well as historical indexes for easy perusal.

-Phil

28 posted on 06/11/2010 9:28:14 AM PDT by Phil_GA (http://www.therightsideoflife.com)
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To: TheCipher
This assumes that he was born abroad. What if he was born in HI as his supports profess - does an 18 year old US Citizen confer citizenship on baby barry, under the 1961 laws of both HI and US? I have seen somewhere (cannot retrieve now) that HI law did not as their laws had not been updated to reflect their new statehood.
29 posted on 06/11/2010 9:29:39 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

If he was born in HI, the 14th Amendment would take precedent ( state law doesn’t matter in regards to citizenship ). So he would be a US citizen, if the above were the case.


30 posted on 06/11/2010 10:24:00 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: Phil_GA
No... reporting by definition is the unbiased relaying of the facts. You have disqualified yourself several times just in this string alone by admitting that you are bias.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I claimed to know all truth, nor did I claim (as I've already stated) to be unbiased and, by extension, 100% statistically objective.

It is an interesting paradox that you've created here. You, who just admitted that you aren't perfect, are looking to point out imperfections in others. And you've been doing this since 2008? Years of hypocrisy is not impressive or becoming Phil
31 posted on 06/11/2010 10:25:17 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Alaphiah123
No... reporting by definition is the unbiased relaying of the facts. You have disqualified yourself several times just in this string alone by admitting that you are bias.

That's right, I forgot: once any journalist leaves college, they are all 100% statistically unbiased.

Mmmmkay.

It is an interesting paradox that you've created here. You, who just admitted that you aren't perfect, are looking to point out imperfections in others. And you've been doing this since 2008? Years of hypocrisy is not impressive or becoming Phil

My postings are "not impressive or becoming," to whom, you? As I've already said, I'm not out here to make everybody happy. I'm here to post what I think is worth posting based on what I know at the time. Once again, this is otherwise known as "reporting."

This particular exchange has been fun, but I'll give you the last word (I figure you'll probably take it, whether given or not).

-Phil

32 posted on 06/11/2010 10:54:09 AM PDT by Phil_GA (http://www.therightsideoflife.com)
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To: autumnraine

Please review the law at the time in the country in question. The country has a searchable database that will also inform you about the laws concerning tribal marriages versus civil marriages.

It was a legal marriage.

You can choose not to believe it or do the research.


33 posted on 06/11/2010 2:01:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Phil_GA

Doesn’t Mr Adams understand how explosive his testimony is?

The long-form doesn’t exist.

What does that mean exactly?

And does he not understand that he doesn’t get to decide Obama’s eligibility?

And does he really believe we’re all a bunch of racists?

Why even go there? If he thinks it unimportant.


34 posted on 06/11/2010 7:36:02 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: Phil_GA

Most important.

Is there any physical evidence, or other witnesses willing to go on record?

Or do we just have his word, which is a lot, but not enough.


35 posted on 06/11/2010 7:41:24 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister
Doesn’t Mr Adams understand how explosive his testimony is?

The long-form doesn’t exist.

What does that mean exactly?

And does he not understand that he doesn’t get to decide Obama’s eligibility?

And does he really believe we’re all a bunch of racists?

Why even go there? If he thinks it unimportant.

Excellent questions, all. Perhaps only a profiler who could ever meet Mr. Adams would be able to tell if it's purely naivete or intentional ignorance.

-Phil

36 posted on 06/11/2010 8:52:54 PM PDT by Phil_GA (http://www.therightsideoflife.com)
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To: Phil_GA

Thanks, Phil.


37 posted on 06/12/2010 7:27:36 AM PDT by rosettasister
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To: GBA

The sad thing is that all the people who support the idea that Obama is an NBC can also do so on the basis of a ‘belief.’ There are no facts to support the idea, just blind faith.


38 posted on 06/12/2010 9:15:35 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Phil_GA

I admit I was somewhat skeptical about Tim Adams’ Obama allegations at first. His CCC interview sounded somewhat staged to me. The Wikipedia description of CCC caused even greater concern.

Then Wednesday night I discovered Tim Adams’ My Space account and his youtube videos and his credibility began to take on new light. Apparently, he is a wannabe journalist. He honestly believes that Obama is a natural born citizen merely because his mother was an American citizen, regardless of where he was born or who his father was. I frankly admit that was my same exact sentiment at one time. And I’m guessing that about half the country still feel that way. Then I learned that a natural born citizen must be born on American soil and both parents must be citizens. Native born means born on American soil but parents aren’t necessarily citizens.

This video reveals a lot about Tim Adams’ purpose for attending the CCC conference………
Reporting on Pulaski County for the Week of June 6, 2010 We go on the road to the Council of Conservative Citizens Conference in Nashville, TN (with a bit of uneasiness).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD-YCBIc2xg


39 posted on 06/12/2010 10:26:19 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers. President Obama, get)
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To: Phil_GA

Check out Adams’ myspace account. Some entries are puzzling but particularly interesting is his entry on Monday, August 18, 2008 because it gives credibility to his WND statements and his position as chief election clerk in Hawaii. ……..

- what’s it all about in ghetto paradise!
“Other events; I’ve been employed by the City of Honolulu, managing an office for the upcoming national and state elections, but I’m on leave til August 21st and I don’t think I’ll be going back. The corruption, infighting and egos of these civil servants makes it no surprise nothing ever gets done around this city unless someone’s been paid off. I’ve been repeatedly warned not to leak any information about the scandals in the local office of elections that you can read all about in the local press, nor the controversy surrounding our boss, the City Clerk’s Office.”
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=42147326&page=3


40 posted on 06/13/2010 12:06:11 AM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers. President Obama, get)
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