Posted on 06/13/2010 6:39:37 PM PDT by GonzoII
Well, remember the first revelation
” The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. “
That would be kinda hard to miss. I suspect maybe this was merely a warning to Americans from God to get back to their Judoe-Christian morality and stop backstabbing their nation and Israel. Or else the next thing that happens will amke this seem banal and trivial.
No matter what the issue - economy, Middle East, Gulf oil spew - this is the motto during the 0bama Regime.
If they have sensors, I doubt they tell us or the readings.
Here are some things you may want to read that either pick up where your info stops and or supports your material:
Blacklisted: BP Oil Spill Tyranny & Media Blackout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aPVz8RhOhg&feature=player_embedded
Listen to 80.1 and 80.2
http://www.veritasshow.com/veritasplayer.html
(80.3 is an interview with the Grand Isle Chief of Police - also worth listening to)
Photos they do not want you to see
http://www.katu.com/news/photos/95866799.html
Oil spill raises concerns about air quality along coastal Louisiana
From this pdf file:
http://www.epa.gov/bpspill/air/airtechoverview.pdf
Data collection and reporting information
Results are posted to the EPA spill response website after data quality checks and review. See http://www.epa.gov/bpspill/air.html and http://gulfcoast.airnowtech.org/ for results. Any unusual values are identified for verification or invalidation if a measurement, laboratory analysis or other data quality issue is discovered. Time between collection of a sample or monitored data and reporting to the web depends on the contaminant and the analytical process required to measure that substance. The typical time between collection and posting on the web ranges from less than one day to a week.
H2S Safety Factsheet
http://www.safetydirectory.com/hazardous_substances/hydrogen_sulfide/fact_sheet.htm
Facts About Benzene
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/benzene/basics/facts.asp
Air tests from the Louisiana coast reveal human health threats from the oil disaster
Excerpt:
The concentration threshold for people to experience physical symptoms from hydrogen sulfide is about 5 to 10 parts per billion. But as recently as last Thursday, the EPA measured levels at 1,000 ppb. The highest levels of airborne hydrogen sulfide measured so far were on May 3, at 1,192 ppb.
People Fall ill in BP Spill Cleanup #1 - May 27, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ7BzkOubak&feature=player_embedded
Supporting links:
Evergreen Air is dropping chemicals over the oil spill
http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/09/evergreen-air-is-dropping-chemicals-over-the-oil-spill/
Epidemic Hazard for Venice La – Corexits Reign of Terror
http://theintelhub.com/2010/06/13/epidemic-hazard-for-venice-la-corexits-reign-of-terror/
Gov’t and BP Unresponsive on Requests for Data on Sick Cleanup Workers
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Most of the above, including my comments in response to having spent the time to go through all of the above are on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2533537/posts?q=1&;page=1
Given your background, my guess is you will find all of the above very interesting. It will take a while to go through it but I think it is worth the effort. I also went beyond the above and did some searches with key phrases and read a lot more, even some of Alex Jones’ interviews with a guy from infowars.com who says he has a BP source spilling the beans to him. Please let me know what you think.
I wrote this on another thread -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2533831/posts
It sums up my conclusion:
There’s a lot of info in the fringe news resources on the internet that, if true (and some things I’ve read and watched are hard to dismiss) point to the oil rig explosion being sabotage with the intention of creating the crisis.
The unplanned part of it was the extent of the disaster due to the explosion rupturing the pipe down deep into the sea bed and in turn rupturing the sea bed itself. They drilled into a strata of oil and the well is under such pressure that there may be no way of stopping it. A BP whistle blower says the daily volume is 4 million barrels. (I think I should have said gallons here but I can’t find the source easily to look it up)
There is a media black out being enforced in much of the area where the oil is gushing all the way to where it is coming on shore and few people are aware of this. I have noticed that there is a concerted effort on any thread where any of this info appears to relegate it to the tin foil hat category. There are also people who just dismiss it without investigating it at all because it sounds too nutty. If you are interested in looking into the matter, this thread is a good place to start:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2533537/posts?q=1&;page=51
I have looked at these fringe news reports and interviews and find some of them very hard to just dismiss. Whether it is all true or not, the people running the show plan to take full advantage of it. If they win, they may get a tainted victory, however, and have a real mess on their hands because they have crapped in their own back yard, not just ours.
Where did you get the information that there is good strong rock down there? From what I have read, there is no rock in the seabed nor down the length of the pipe. Did I miss something?
Yikes ... you’ve got a lot there ... :-)
I’ll ping someone else here to it ... hey Quix, you might take a look at Post #145 ...
Natural Born 54, the pictures on katu.com are just heartbreaking.
I am going to read more of your links tomorrow when I have some more time, but I am just going to say this-
If, in the end, it turns out that human beings actually consipred to do this in order to pass some green agenda garbage, then may God have mercy on us all.
This is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life.
Someone who is obviously well-informed on the industry or works in it said that the relief wells, because of the angle, are not suitable to be producing wells. The damage caused by erosion from sand rules out their long term viability. I can’t explain it, just repeat it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2533938/posts?page=145#145
Check out the links to the radio broadcasts - 80.2 relates to what you are saying. The guy is probably a bit out there, but his scenario is truly frightening re the fault line.
I wish there were some way to get that fact into the news in a big way. If people think there is a possible solution out there and the lack of granting immunity is preventing it, the public pressure would be immense. Does the public have any idea that this problem exists?
Make that indemnity, not immunity.
Actually, I’ve always thought that what is described here is a series of meteors hitting the planet.
It has happened before; it will happen again.
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/20455
I was trying to find a good and simple geologic profile or boring log. Lots of technical stuff out there. This article is interesting in that it talks about efforts in 2006 at the leading edge of discoveries of these deep Gulf of Mexico oil finds. And talks a bit about the rock in the Gulf and the geologic history.
These wells drill into the deep (and therefore very old) rocks in the gulf. Even though they may talk about Tertiary “sediments” and oil “sands”, they are talking about sediments and sands that were laid down millions of years ago. They have undergone deep burial, compaction, tectonic plate motion (pressure), etc. They are now rock, like sandstone, shale and slate (from silty mud), limestone (from dead coral), etc.
Granted, the sea floor of the Gulf has a thick layer of loose sand and silt from the Mississippi river in it (thousand(s) of feet thick?? I don’t know). And the water pressure in that loose material can also play havoc with a drill hole. But BP’s problems are well below that layer.
The well was something like 25,000 feet deep as I recall. They are dealing with hard rock. Probably hard “salt” as well (as in rock - not table salt).
So the rupture in the well pipe is where? In the rock or above where the rock starts or both? You said the trouble is below the soft stuff. I’ve read conflicting info on that so I don’t know.
There’s also the issue of how much support is being provided now to the well pipe. Seems to me that the answer there would be not enough until you get to the rock so everything above it is not stable. Is that correct?
Everyone likes to hedge their bets, but there is only so much Gulf to be running supply boats around in, especially with the undersea collection operation going on. Too many surface vessels in too little space and you would need an ATC to direct traffic. There are two relief wells drilling now, and that’s more than most operations.
Here’s another VERY interesting article from 2009, 3 years after the previous article. This 2009 article talks about BP’s “Thunder Horse” play and the technical issues (such as high pressures, difficulty completing the wells, etc.) that they had to battle. They came up with thousands of new technologies to create this play.
Hard to imagine that with all that is involved in these discoveries, the BP company man, faced with arguements from the driller of the high pressures, VERY high (if not certain) risk of a blow out in the driller’s opionion, would sum it up as “Do what I say - that’s what the pinchers (the blow out preventer) are for”. (”Pinchers” that, BTW, had only been able to “pass” inspection using a much lower pressure than the standard called for. It failed at the higher pressures. Of course the Feds allowed the “pass” grade).
Oh absolutely and further they have changed Global Warming to Climate change after the fiasco in Coppenhagen and the leaked e-mails.
I got very fortunate to be on line when the whole e-mail thing was coming down....was THE most exciting moments on line as all were frantic to get those confirmed as they came thru...and then all the chatter back and forth on what the e-mails were saying. Thrilling moment for cyberspace..no doubt about it!
I can’t believe the number of people who don’t understand that plant life depends on CO2....you start messing with that balance and as usual will do more harm than good.
I’m not exactly clear on the orginal cement operation. But it was at depth. It would have been to seal the oil producing zone off from the annulus (outside) of the hole above the oil zone. The well is double-cased, so this would include between the outer casing and the rock, and between the inner pipe and the outer casing.
I believe that the idea was once this deep cement job had “set up”, then they would remove the heavy mud from the well and replace it with seawater. And once that was done, put a shallower cement plug into the inner well pipe.
But yes, if there is a breach at depth of the well, which there obviously is, the oil under pressure may be working its way up along the outside of the outer casing - between the rock and the casing.
When it reaches the soft mud at the bottom of the gulf, I would imagine that it will both disperse into the mud, and start creating a subsidence near the well., which could cause further harm to the shallow portion of the well I suppose.
Usually, they collapse, but not in the sense they leave a crater. Formations spall downhole and fill the hole or flow (like salts) and pinch the casing off. Most people don’t realize that by the time a well like this gets to total depth, it is usually somewhere between six inches to a foot in diameter, unlike old surface water wells a kid seems to find every couple of years.
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