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Costner-BP skimming operations still slowed by EPA regulations
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| 06-27-10
| Mataharley
Posted on 06/27/2010 2:27:36 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
Nothing but idiots and idiots and idiots as far as the eye can see. Leftist idiocy abounds.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:30:38 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
To: Starman417
Nothing spells success like B-U-R-E-A-U-C-R-A-C-Y!
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:39:35 PM PDT
by
Jack Hydrazine
(It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
To: Starman417
Makes sense that Costner would blame his slowness on the government regulations. Couldn’t be his technology, could it?
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:39:56 PM PDT
by
Brilliant
To: Jim Robinson; xzins; blue-duncan; wagglebee
I think Kevin Costner may become the next Jon Voight after this experience.
Costner is seeing his precious liberalism in action. It does not protect. It only destroys. He invests in something designed to protect the environment and the liberal EPA bureaucracy and the Administration prevent him from using it and put every roadblock up they can while the environment gets ruined.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:44:17 PM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: Starman417
Its becoming obvious they dont want it cleaned up.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:46:06 PM PDT
by
opentalk
To: Brilliant
You could be correct, but bureaucratic patterns suggest otherwise.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:46:52 PM PDT
by
Gene Eric
(Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
To: Starman417
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:49:04 PM PDT
by
Tawiskaro
To: P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan
Good observation. Though it must be pointed out that, unlike Kevin Costner, Jon Voight can actually act.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:51:12 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Brilliant
Nope, it's government regulations. One of the climate blogs had a story dealing with the refusal to accept very effective Dutch oil-skimmers. Not because of the Jones Act, but because the technology used, which sucks in massive amounts of oil mixed with sea water, removes virtually all of the oil in usable form, and returns the sea water and some residual oil to the sea
violates EPA rules against discharging water mixed with oil into the ocean.
If the Obama administration actually cared about the environoment (as opposed to "caring" about everything the way the left "cares" about things, as a rhetorical excuse for arrogating power to the state), all of the foreign skimmer, Costner's centrifuges, and everything else that's been offered to help would be running full tilt instead of being checked for compliance with regulations that are irrelevant in the face of a disaster of this sort.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:56:41 PM PDT
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: Gene Eric
I am not suggesting that government regs make any sense. I’m just suggesting that hiring Costner was nothing be a PR move. His technology was doomed from the outset. You can’t run the entire Gulf of Mexico thru his centrifuge.
To: Brilliant; Starman417
Makes sense that Costner would blame his slowness on the government regulations. Couldnt be his technology, could it?
Sometimes the better part about being brilliant is to actually research something instead of making masturbatory snide comments--it feels good to you but doesn't do anyone else any good.
The reason he's having trouble with the EPA is that the effluent from the purification process has a higher level of oil residue than is permitted by the EPA for such an effluent. Never mind that it's cleaned about 99% of the oil out of the water leaving it much cleaner than it was, it's still not as clean as some dork at the EPA pushing outmoded science and technology* says it should be. And so we have a situation where much dirtier water has to be endured because it can't be cleaned up as much as someone else says it should be. This is like saying that you can't have a vaccine against a deadly disease that saves 99 out of 100 victims until you make sure the vaccine saves 99.5 out of every hundred victims.
This is also somewhat like the Bureau of Fish and Wildlife telling folks in Louisiana that they can't build berms to protect the mashes and estuaries because they're "endangered."
*One of my uncles was until recently the CEO of a major midwestern electrical utility for almost 30 years. He's had plenty of experience dealing with the EPA. He said they have to meet the guidelines, but there's no way they would ever, at the EPA's suggestion, take EPA as a parter in renovating things or take government loans, also at the EPA's suggestion, to fund the renovation. He said their science is not state of the art and that their scientists are as outmoded as their techniques.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:59:11 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Brilliant
>> You cant run the entire Gulf of Mexico thru his centrifuge.
I share your skepticism.
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posted on
06/27/2010 2:59:38 PM PDT
by
Gene Eric
(Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
To: P-Marlowe
He should be proud of the government for regulating greedy white males and holding them accountable. /a
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posted on
06/27/2010 3:04:55 PM PDT
by
omega4179
(www.jdforsenate.com)
To: Starman417
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posted on
06/27/2010 3:09:33 PM PDT
by
lonestar
(Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
To: aruanan
What portion of the 3.3 million gallons of water in the Gulf of Mexico do you think Costner can put thru his centrifuge? And how much do you think it would cost to do that? His efforts are not going to make the slightest difference in the clean up efforts, no matter what the EPA says. It’s pure PR for BP and the government—nothing more. If he weren’t a celebrity, they would not give him the time of day.
To: Brilliant
The bureaucrats are always at least ten years behind the technology.
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posted on
06/27/2010 3:28:03 PM PDT
by
reg45
To: Brilliant; aruanan
What portion of the 3.3 million gallons of water in the Gulf of Mexico do you think Costner can put thru his centrifugeNot sure where you came up with 3.3 million gallon figure ... it's well over 600 quadrillion gallons ... so Dances With Wolves is gonna need a crap load of those centrifuge gizmos.
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posted on
06/27/2010 3:28:52 PM PDT
by
tx_eggman
(Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
To: tx_eggman
Most sane people would assume anyone’s purpose would be to fix the problem as quickly as possible, and that cutting red tape in these special circumstances would be the first thing most of us (sane) people would do.
Conclusion: These folks (The Bammy Gang) don’t WANT it fixed. It’s much more useful as a crisis to be exploited for panicking the public.
What a tragedy.
To: Brilliant
The old cream separator on the farm worked just fine. Took a lot of hand cranking though.
The problem with the Kostner solution seems to be finding something to do with the oil once it is collected. Possible that no one thought of that until now. After all, this is a government operation.
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posted on
06/27/2010 3:35:23 PM PDT
by
FreePaul
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