Posted on 12/06/2010 5:42:45 PM PST by Whenifhow
This is the 2nd Child “Protective” Services thread today. Each one makes my blood boil, and makes me thank GOD my children are full-fledged adults now.
A FReeper’s son was accused of child abuse, “baby shaking,” when he brought his baby to the ER. The child was 8 mos old, had been through multiple surgeries, had a medical ‘history’ but the doc called CPS about possible baby shaking charges. Those people are rabid.
CPS does not have to have a warrant.
Bull-o-nee.
From Calabretta v. Floyd, 189 F. 3d 808 - Court of Appeals, 9th Circuit 1999...
Not only can police and CPS NOT enter without a warrant, if they do enter without a warrant (a coerced entry), they no longer enjoy qualified immunity. IOW, they are personally liable for civil damages.
I have no idea what happened to you or when. The law today is crystal clear - no warrant, no entry.
"All it takes is a phone call from someone and they show up at your kids school without you knowing about it and on your door step as well."
Sure, they can show up at your doorstep, but you clearly don't have to let them in, or even speak to them. That's the law.
DYFS in NJ told me the same lie. I didn’t buy it. They did not come in my house.
Along with that, he used to leave the truck running overnight during cold weather. His driveway was located about ten feet from our bedrooms wall.
There wasn't a fence between our lots and he often parked his truck partially on OUR property despite us frequently asking him to stop. I finally had to call the police just to stop him from leaving the trucks running all night long.
He or more likely his wife retaliated by filing a complaint against my wife and I with the local department of Family Services who took three of our children for questioning without telling us beforehand. They even came out to our house and asked us a lot of questions before finally admitting that they didn't believe the allegations against us.
The real problem is that anyone can file false accusations against someone else alledging child abuse and even though the agency knows the charges are fraudulent, they simply don't punish the liars who make the false charges.
In regards to that neighbors wife, she and possibly her son and maybe even the father used to call our house all during the night often making over 100 calls per month.
The police claimed that they couldn't do anything about them unless we first had a wiretap placed on out phone line and also got a statement from the phone company documenting the date and time of all the phone calls along with the calling number.
Since all the calls were local rather than long distance, the phone company didn't keep any individual record of the local calls since they aren't billed by length or time of day. Therefore it was impossible to produce such record as requested by the police. We had to pay to have our number ‘audited’ just too get that report.
One day after one such late night phone call, I told the neighbors son that we reported the calls to the police and the police were auditing the phone calls coming in and that we were fully prepared to press a criminal complaint with documented proof against whoever was making the calls.
I also informed him of the laws regarding those illegal calls and the amount the perpetrator could be fined along with a prison sentence and the fact that I was also going to sue the perp as well.
Those phone calls immediately stopped.
One really interesting thing was shortly after moving in next door they told me that they were run out of the last neighborhood they were living in because of the truck.
One other thing is that shortly before we moved to Florida, the husband committed suicide by shooting himself after he was arrested for carrying a gun in his truck.
Fourth-amendment law has not been static for the twenty years that have elapsed since your experience.
Wow, what a story! It’s amazing how vindictive and...well, just EVIL people can get. I homeschool so I don’t have to worry about some impromptu interrogation, thank God, but I’ve been looking into how much co-operation is required of me if CPS ever shows up at my door step. They can’t get in without a warrant, and I hope that’ll at least give me enough time to call a lawyer.
I have some good news for you. There still are some judges who will not issue a warrant without just cause. My family was fortunate enough to have such a judge when DYFS went rogue on us. I refused to let them in the house. They said I had to let them in, and if I didn’t they’d be back with a warrant and it would be worse, hinting that they’d trash our house. I stood my ground. They never did get inside our house.
Okay. Thanks for explaining that. :)
I agree. Sue, sue and sue again.
I downloaded the radio interview from the link on Sherrie’s website. Common Sense Radio show on RepublicBroadcasting.org. Sherrie went looking for the FEMA camps and the coffins and wrote about it on her website.
She went to the media and got translations about the plague in the Ukraine. (It was much worse than the media reported and she has blogs on this information.) The radio host says she has the best information about the mortgage fraud.
Sherrie explained: The bankers separated the mortgage note from the deed. They sold the MBS - mortgage back securities - they would take one 100k loan and put it in 20 different MBS and sold them.
She has a letter on her website (link below) that each person who has a MERS mortgage needs to mail to the servicer.
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2010/07/mers-mortgage-electronic-registration.html
The servicer by law has to answer the questions on the letter and they can’t foreclose on the mortgagee.
Then in the interview they discuss the visit by CPS. Earlier in the interview Sherrie mentions that she lives in TN. A caller calls in and she says - go look for yourself - question it!
They found a FEMA camp next to a high school. There was a drill with students - but not a normal drill. They took the students away from the building on buses.
Sherrie reflects on the CPS incident.
They have no right to question your children without an advocate or parents to be there. They do not tell you who has accused the parent.
Interference - host mentions the ‘powers that be’....
This person, Sherrie, is an inspiration!
Sherrie Questioning All - website
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2010/12/is-govt-trying-to-find-out-who-has-what.html
Sherrie’sChannel
http://www.youtube.com/user/tnknoxrealtor
Download the radio interview - 2 are listed there - one is Sherry(Wilcox) and the other is about Executive orders and FEMA
INCREDIBLE.
May God give to the evil doers their just consequences.
Mark for later
my, my, aren’t we special... you old debunker you....
I trust Children's Protective Services, DCFS, Department of Children's Services, and similar names about as much as I would an ill tempered rattlesnake shedding it's skin. I've had my own not so pleasant experiences with them as a former foster parent. Lies? They are the masters of them. Most of these agencies are ran by Ultra Left Wing Liberals with many agendas most of them of which have nothing to do with the actual safety or well being of abused or neglected children. Many can't wait to get a child returned to truly abusive situations so their reunification percentages will look good. If they get abused again the cycle gets repeated.
The person did right by gathering witnesses and video taping. All it takes to get one of these agencies after you is one anonymous call to a hot line. One vengeance call can ruin your entire life as well as your children This person wrote a blog? That is where the caller likely originated from. Someones toes got stepped on.
Not all caseworkers are like this but all but two I dealt with purposely and intentionally lied to me and mislead me. As well they enabled unfit parents and in my case I was qualified to make the assessment of the parents involved being unfit.
Children's Services in most states is the most abusive and least accountable to anyone state agency. If I had read this story a few years ago I would have said Bull. After my experiences with them and in court where I was made their scapegoat for botching a case? I'd believe about any horror story related to such an agency.
If most Conservatives ever had to attend required Parenting Classes to become a Foster Parent even to their blood kin they would be 100% disgusted by the agenda and propaganda taught in those classes. IOW They hate your guts Conservatives.
She may not be a danger to her children, but she’s sure a danger to a lot of other people. Mostly to their pocketbooks, but she’s probably threatening the freedom of a few crooks. And let’s not forget her criminal misuse of commas.
“Also, whoever wrote this should DEFINITELY find an educated person to tutor their kids if the kids are going to be homeschooled. The last thing we need is more ignorant youngsters out there.”
Education software does a far better job of educating than public schools. If the parents rely on the software, great! I take it the parents were products of public schools? What kind of endorsement is that for public education?
“They found a FEMA camp next to a high school.”
Of course they did. A secret high school?
Ditto.
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