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Question Insanity: What to Ask Progressives
Pajamas Media ^ | December 27, 2010 | Oleg Atbashian

Posted on 12/27/2010 6:58:07 AM PST by Kaslin

An ex-Soviet immigrant goes Socratic on his liberal American critics.

The two women who showed up early for my book signing at a small bookstore in Houston, TX, never even bothered to open my book. Wearing knowing smiles, they engaged me in a bizarre discussion that wound up leaping all around the known and unknown universe. They hadn’t the slightest curiosity about my ideas as an ex-Soviet immigrant in America, or what I had to say about my experience working inside the two ideologically opposed systems. As it turned out, they had spotted my flyer in the store window the day before, and the book’s title — Shakedown Socialism — had enraged them so much that they decided to return the following day and give me a piece of their collective mind.

Their act almost made me feel as if I were back in the USSR, where the harassment of people with my opinions was the norm. The shorter, pudgier woman was the soloist bully, while her skinnier, older comrade provided backup vocals and noise effects. The duo’s repertoire was an eclectic collection of unoriginal talking points, each branded with an almost legible label: NPR, Air America, MSNBC, and so on. Not only were those mental fragments mismatched in key and rhythm; the very existence of harmony seemed an unfamiliar concept to them. But compared to the hard-core screaming I used to hear from card-carrying Soviet bullies, this was almost elevator music. If I had survived the original cast, I could certainly handle a watered-down remake.

Framed on their terms, the debate zigzagged from the evils of unbridled capitalism to global warming to Bush’s wars for oil to Sarah Palin’s stupidity. Since my opponents wouldn’t give me a chance to respond, I soon became bored and tried to entertain myself by redirecting the flow of mental detritus against itself in a way that would cause its own annihilation. I did that by asking questions.

I remembered an old trick invented in the fifth century B.C. by Socrates. Instead of telling people what he thought was true, Socrates asked seemingly simple questions that put his opponents on the path of finding the truth for themselves. Seeking genuine knowledge rather than mere victory in an argument, Socrates used his questions to cross-examine the hypotheses, assumptions, and axioms that subconsciously shaped the opinions of his opponents, drawing out the contradictions and inconsistencies they relied on.

As the two women faced my questions, their knowing smiles turned to scowls. Sometimes they would backtrack and correct their previous statements; sometimes, they would angrily storm out of the room in the manner of Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg on The View with Bill O’Reilly. After a while they would return with more talking points, and then they had to answer another logical question. My friends who witnessed the scene told me later they saw the shorter bully beginning to foam at the mouth.

Some heads contain an enormous number of facts that never bind with one another to form a fertile soil from which original ideas will grow. Each piece of information exists independently from the others, all of them continuously shifting and rolling around like grains of sand, forming ephemeral dunes in the lifeless deserts of their minds. The “open-minded” owners of such heads like to open their minds in the company of peers and admire each other’s fanciful sandy mindscapes. Every new whiff of wind or shaking of the head tosses the sand in more quirky patterns, forming new whimsical outlines. As previously covered facts are exposed and facts once exposed are concealed, a semblance of new ideas will emerge without any true change in content.

A similar effect is achieved when the content of such minds is raked by “intellectual” authors, filmmakers, and politicians — a practice they immensely enjoy, calling it a “spiritual” experience. They think of themselves as “intellectuals” while denying this title to anyone with a consistent, original mind. To have structured values is an unpardonable faux pas in their circles. Those who challenge them get sand thrown in their eyes — the punishment I was being subjected to at the Houston bookstore.

In return, I reminded my opponents about the existence of the scientific method of discovery — a logical device that had made Western civilization so successful in the past, but had now been abandoned by “progressive” thinkers. The resulting cognitive dissonance made them disoriented. In due course, they panicked and walked out, never to come back.

A few weeks later I told this story to Maggie Roddin, a radio talk show host in Philadelphia. (Click through my Website to hear this interview.) Maggie asked me to recall some of the questions, but I could only remember a few. She insisted that I write them down to share with her audience. As I did so, more questions began to pop up. Some were new, while others I had been asking for years while trying to make sense of my American experience. The resulting list may not exactly fit the definition of Socratic questioning. But in my defense, even Socrates couldn’t possibly envision the scale of absurdity a political argument could reach in the 21st century.

Dear Americans, these are some questions I have collected in 16 years of living in your country. Please see if you can answer them for me:

I hope you will find my questions handy. Feel free to pass them around and propose some of your own in the comments below.


TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: liberalism; ll; progressives; progressivism; questions
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To: bcsco

Your point is as good as any of the above. I think it is not possible to answer. Did they try?


41 posted on 12/27/2010 9:32:08 AM PST by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: Anima Mundi
Did they try?

Nope. Don't get me wrong, this wasn't a confrontational thing. It was a relative who's background is as a Chicago democrat. Not that she's a politician, just brought up as a democrat.

We were discussing the issue of big government and why people look to it to solve society's ills. I pointed out that people being imperfect, why do we believe that government, which is made up of some of the most imperfect (self-centered) people, is a proper resolution? It made her think.

I then went one step further. Why do people get in to politics? The answer is simple. They're self-centered and get into it for their own gratification. Even those who become public "servants", not politicians, do it for self-centered reasons. They have a life-long income, often greater than possible in the private sector, with little chance of termination, and a great pension to boot.

Thus, those we're giving the responsibility to to "serve" society are among the most self-serving people of all.

She didn't argue, but I could tell she thought about it.

42 posted on 12/27/2010 9:42:05 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Kaslin

Why are people greedy who want to earn money, but not greedy if they want to take it from someone and buy votes by pretending to be “givers” to the voters? Why are the politicians given credit for showing empathy when they are merely taking credit for a forced gift from another individual?

And why, given the finite amount of money for research for cures, are AIDS activists seen as heroic when funds are diverted to their largely preventable disease from things like childhood cancers?

Why are illegal aliens seen as sympathetic when they are actually pushing in line in front of OTHER people who have gone through the process to come here in the legal way? In no other area do people applaud line crashers.


43 posted on 12/27/2010 9:53:01 AM PST by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: bcsco

That is what is so telling about them. Everything seems to stem from the cardinal sin of hypocrisy and the moral and ethical positions they must twist into pretzel-like shapes to avoid being labeled.

It all boils down to the fact that conservatives understand and believe humans are fallible, while liberals refuse to believe that, and instead blame it on root causes such a society, poverty, a bad upbringing, etc.


44 posted on 12/27/2010 9:56:48 AM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: Kaslin

bflr


45 posted on 12/27/2010 10:00:15 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: rlmorel

Good thoughts. Thanks for sharing.


46 posted on 12/27/2010 10:44:23 AM PST by bcsco
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To: bcsco
Vonnegut “Harrison Burgeron” ripoff.
47 posted on 12/27/2010 11:37:55 AM PST by mmercier (Kilgore Trout)
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To: 50cal Smokepole; AZamericonnie; b4its2late; bitt; blackbart.223; Blood of Tyrants; brothers4thID; ..

You might find this amusing and interesting ping!


48 posted on 12/29/2010 7:53:53 AM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Yardstick

The author of these questions is the owner of the People’s cube web site.


49 posted on 12/29/2010 8:19:39 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: bcsco

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron


50 posted on 12/29/2010 8:22:09 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: Big Giant Head; Marie Antoinette

I rarely waste time engaging hardcore progressives, but these are good questions.


51 posted on 12/29/2010 8:36:24 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: vanilla swirl

Why is rape okay if its done by a leftist hero?

They claim to totally oppose racism but are the most racist when they find people like Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas and others. Remember those editorial cartoons?


52 posted on 12/29/2010 9:14:25 AM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: listenhillary
The author of these questions is the owner of the People’s cube web site.

Yep. That's why I posted the link (but I wasn't super clear about it).

53 posted on 12/29/2010 9:49:28 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: aflaak

ping


54 posted on 12/29/2010 10:31:46 AM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: Kaslin

nump


55 posted on 12/29/2010 10:28:45 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: bamahead; traviskicks; freepatriot32; MikeHu; StoneColdTaxHater; libertyman; Husker24; ...

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

A New Years’ ping for you — here’s a list of questions to skewer lefties with (authored by “Red Square,”) that’s so fabulous that I decided to save it to disk.


56 posted on 01/01/2011 8:23:25 AM PST by FreeKeys (“You want to know what fascism is like? It is like your New Deal!”-Benito Mussolini to Grover Whal)
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To: FreeKeys

Great link have e-mailed it to a bunch of friends,thanks for the ping.....


57 posted on 01/01/2011 9:19:48 AM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: FreeKeys

ALSO SEE: “The Four Questions Every Liberal Must Be Asked” at http://tinyurl.com/4Questions4Liberals


58 posted on 01/01/2011 10:20:20 AM PST by FreeKeys ("You want to know what fascism is like? It is like your New Deal!"-Benito Mussolini to Grover Whalen)
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To: Kaslin

“What are you THINKING??!!”


59 posted on 01/01/2011 10:32:21 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Leisler

Describes what I would find easy to believe about an ex-bossette and her galpal.


60 posted on 01/01/2011 11:55:47 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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