Skip to comments.WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST
Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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NO President Biden, but that’s what kept me away from the issue initially... I’d rather wait to 2012
BUT- Biden won’t be in office either, the whole Obama team would be NULL and VOID- elected under fraudulent conditions
PRESIDENT BUSH would return until new elections could be held... IMO
If this is just a set-up by O, a ruse — and then the big presentation of his birth certificate — then it doesn’t say much for the man, when Col.Larkin is sitting in a prison.
It’s not the salary that matters to him. It is the destruction of the United States of America and the destruction of American Exceptionalism.
It is reparations- not money, of course, quoting BO, because, “money isn’t enough.”
It is being George Soros piss bucket boy. It is taking a page from his possible true father, Frank Marshall, the unionista and stealing from business owners and dictating how they will do business.
It is payback for this non-African American who has ridden the coattails of American slaves solely on the color of his skin when he has no skin in the game- unless you count his white American half.
He is a fraud. She is a fraud. And they both hate white people.
Can we charge him foro the free Government housing he lied to get into after
he's impeached and imprisoned?
Look into Dr. Toru Nishigaya. He was Assistant Chief of Staff at the hospital in the 50s and was involved in Lolo’s immigration case in the 60s.
I can’t find much on him other than he appears to have been a prominent physician. He is dead.
His involvement for Ann is a little weird...but it might have just been Toots calling in a favor.
It’s pretty clear in those papers that Lolo didn’t want to go back to Indonesia..tried to do an end run around the CIA ..it hacked them off enough that East West center made a notation about it...
and forced Lolo out of the country to participate in the coup.
No, but the fact that HI's GOVERNOR (using all the powers of the office at his disposal) still can't find it either gives the 'someone told him something' affidavit a lot more weight than it would normally carry.
When you add the above to contradictory statements from previous HI officials (Example: Ex-Gov. Lingle claiming she had seen it and 'locked it in a safe' BS in 2009. Okay so if she was telling the truth, why can't the successive Governor access that safe?) plus an obviously now proven forgery of that online COLB (which can't be real since it has now been proven that there is NOTHING in HI's records to even generate that COLB). There is more than enough circumstantial evidence going on that warrants an investigation. Not investigating and continuing to sweep this gorilla under the rug does even more damage to credibility.
My response to the WH and their ridiculous 'rational men' statement is simply: "Hey White House, rational men don't hide every single circumstance of their past unless they are hiding something big."
Its time for subpoena's. CONGRESS ARE YOU LISTENING?????
If true, this is the most idiotic and stupid strategery I have ever personally witnessed. To now claim there is "NO" bc makes the online COLB they posted a proven FORGERY. That's a felony offense.
But hey if we're going to play along with this new and improved 'strategy' - let the investigations begin regarding perjury and forgery of that posted COLB. We can start with Gibbs since he admitted to posting it.
ISSA ARE YOU LISTENING?
< /sarc >
If Arizona gets its eligibility law passed through the Senate it won't matter. Obama would have to produce it prior to getting his name on the ballot, an October surprise would be too late.
Before we get over excited, this guy is just an election official, not an official from the Office of Records. The fact that he has sworn that someone told him something is not proof.
Not proof inside a court room. But enough, with all the other data, to justify an investigation. Also Albercrumbie admitted in an newspaper interview that there is no birth document; just a notation in Obama’s file. He’s since changed his story when he realized what a mess he is making.
There is more than enough proof to indict a the ham sandwich in the White House.
And the Republicans are doing what?
The constitution is not up for majority vote! It does not matter if the majorty wants to obey the constitution or not. This is a legal matter and some day it will be. I think the Republicans would do best for themselves to not get any deeper in abetting the crime than they already have.
This is why he will not show his Hawaiian documentation. I am assuming he has something since officials said he did and it would to be hard to believe he would claim birth there with absolutely NOTHING.
I personally believe the birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital, Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya, produced by Lucas Smith, is the REAL Obama birth certificate. Although Lucas Smith is a scumbag and an opportunist, it might be that it took just such a person to be able to acquire this document.
I could find nothing to disprove the validity of the document. All the arguments brought forward that I saw could be explained away when the details were checked into. Like that Mombasa wasn't part of Kenya at the time, details people details, those pesky facts that come up when you look into the details.
The truth will one day come out. I hope it is sooner rather than later.
It is not shameful that it was not a written law before now. What is shameful is that now we have such a corrupt elite that it has to be written in law or they will all conspire to violate the constitution and commit treason.
In the past, the opposing political party and the media would have sunk USS Keyna way before the election. They would have been on Obama for hiding all his records. But in this culture of humanism, dishonesty and getting away with breaking the law, is King. They think they are above the rule of law. They think they have progressed beyond the constitution.
We’ll have to agree to disagree. The paper, the ink, finger prints or lack thereof. Forensics would be able to prove the document a NEW document, not one from 1961.
The question at the Keyes/Obama debate has never been verified.
If there is no long form bc, where did the short form (the document the White-House released) come from? Isn’t the short form a more brief version of the long form?
Obviously, none of us know for sure. I think it exists and Obama doesnt want to show it.
There isn't a single shred of evidence that can be shown that would lead anyone to conclude that Obama's birth certificate really exists.
It's time rational common-sense thinking people come to the conclusion that all the non-evidence points to: There is no birth certificate.
This isn't rocket engineering. No one has seen it, no one knows where it is and the one person who can put this matter to rest has sealed all his records and has spend millions barring anyone from seeing the truth.
It doesn't matter WHY he is hiding the truth, the sad fact is that he IS hiding the truth.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
“There is more than enough circumstantial evidence going on that warrants an investigation. Not investigating and continuing to sweep this gorilla under the rug does even more damage to credibility.”
I only wish the MSM would put 1/10 as much effort into this as they did investigating GW Bush’s National Guard records. It would be the blockbuster story of the century. I think the Abercrombie thing has them spooked. A few weeks ago Chris Mathews was urging Obama to release the certificate, now he and his friends are calling the whole controversy “crazy talk”. It seems to me that based on comments by his wife, his granny, the Governor and others, that there is MORE evidence that he is NOT a citizen than that he is.
I grabbed a copy of the Kenyan birth certificate off the net.... and I think I still have it on one of my drives.
When I was in Africa at the time of the elections, people there were very happy that a man born in Africa was about to become the Pres of the US!
Want something to think about? Hussein is directly responsible for record breaking 2010 election losses for his party. If he continues to threaten the Democrat party will disastrous losses in 2012, it may be a DEMOCRAT who turns on “dear Leader”, demanding he produce his certificate!! This, of course, to remove the deadly Hussein from the 2012 election equation and make Dems look “patriotic and honest!”
Still don’t see much chance of it happening, but IF it is shown that he is not qualified to be POTUS, does that not invalidate every single law that he signed and passed????????
“Enquiring minds want to know....”
Are elections officials and governors paid by the taxpayers to lie? Abercrombie and Tim Adams’ supervisors agree. Fukino mentioned an “original birth certificate” and “vital records”, but the HDOH in official communications has indirectly confirmed that Obama’s records have been amended and are thus not legally valid.
So we’ve got THREE officials of the Hawaii government agreeing that Hawaii has no valid birth documentation for Obama. Those three confirmations being given in different ways over a 3-year period.
That’s not just an Obama ploy to make “birthers” look crazy.
I could not get a US passport without a certified copy of my Birth Certificate. I had a copy but not a certified copy from a records official from where I was born. I had to pay to have an official certified copy sent to me by Federal Express. Telling them it was lost or there was a notation in the files of Ohio would have gotten me laughed out of town hall. Giving them an internet address to see my birth certificate would not have worked either.
No way can Obama legally claim that he can be President without a certified birth certificate. There are long established rules and regulations for official birth documentation in the US.
Yep, I hear you. If even 10% of this stuff had been attached to GW Bush it would have been 24/7 news stories and howling and gnashing of teeth from the liberal media. Plus there would have been 0% freepers whining about how it makes us look, we need to just move on, etc. etc.
It seems the only time adhering to the constitution is important is during GOP administrations......
I have always wondered if perhaps he was born in the Soviet Union, which is where Obama Sr's brother lived at that time (going to Patrice Lamumba University, I believe).
The key to discovering forgeries would be to look not only at ALL the birth and citizenship records, but also at the transaction logs for each, to see when the record originated and what changes were made to it.
There is already a transaction log for Obama’s passport records that we know has been illegally accessed at least 3 times - which was allowable because somebody high up in John Brennan’s company specifically disabled the security protocols just during the times that those 3 breaches happened. John Brennan was immediately appointed as National Security Chief after the election. The investigation of those breaches, under the watchful eye of Joe Biden (who Obama offered a VP job) has been heavily redacted and Condi Rice has said there are NOT assurances that the records are accurate.
All this, together with the automatic date stamp which reveals that somebody at the Selective Service Administration forged a registration for Obama, are very good reasons that states should pass an eligibility bill not only requiring documentation of birth and citizenship facts, but should also require transaction logs for the official records.
Let me rephrase that: It's shameful & sad that it even HAS to be written into law.
This country is circling the drain and we had better do something about it right quick.
IMHO, we're being destroyed from within. I used to think that it was happening little by little. Now,I think those forces are attacking with lightening speed.
I agree. The corruption in this country among the elite is so complete it is shameful.
Thanks for the ping.
As to the ‘ojification of the presidency,’ if Pops’ name don’t fit, it don’t mean sh*t.
Unless there is a way that the people can REQUIRE law enforcement to prosecute Obama for forgery, it will never happen. Trust me on this one; I’ve been in contact with law enforcement of every kind, and nothing will happen unless there’s no way they can wiggle out of prosecuting Obama.
That’s one reason why this is about much, much more than just Obama. It’s about the rule of law, at every level.
And it’s also why we NEED to have at least one state enact a law such as the one explained and linked to at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/please-encourage-your-state-to-pass-this-bill/
We need every person to contact their state legislator and ask for this bill to be introduced and passed. Deadlines are imminent, as I well know because I missed Nebraska’s deadline. So today is the day. If we’re ever gonna get credible answers on this issue, for Obama or for any candidate, we need to contact our state legislators TODAY.
I have an e-mail that I can send to anybody who would like to forward information about this to their e-mail lists. The e-mail attaches the text of the bill and a letter that can be sent to state legislators to explain why we need this bill. We can get the word out quickly and easily, if we have people who are willing to e-mail their friends and colleagues.
It’s been suggested that I e-mail the Tea Parties so they can send it out to their members. I can look up e-mail addies for Tea Party leaders, but I think it would be much more credible if it came from their own members. So if somebody is a Tea Party member - particularly in the R-controlled states which I believe are still in play for this (Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, and Wisconsin) - and would be willing to let me e-mail you so you can forward the e-mail to your Tea Party leaders, PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP.
Yes. His step-grandmother in Kenya.
So weve got THREE officials of the Hawaii government agreeing that Hawaii has no valid birth documentation for Obama. Those three confirmations being given in different ways over a 3-year period.
Thats not just an Obama ploy to make birthers look crazy.
IT WOULDN’T A PRIVACY VIOLATION FOR THE GOVERNOR TO SAY THERE ISN’T A LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE. SOMEONE SHOULD ASK IT THAT WAY.
Slightly OT. Why can’t anyone find college info on Obama. every college library has the yearbooks. Obama was Editor of the law Review. Has anyone ever checked these reviews? Someone near Occidental, Columbia and Harvard needs to go to the library and check the yearbooks. That is done with high schools all the time to find suspects, etc... Just a thought.
The HDOH claims they can’t give any information about WHAT birth index their index data for Obama is from. Not even whether it was from the Delayed Birth Certificate, Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, or pending index. So according to that, the index listing for Obama could mean they’ve got a Kleenex with “I was born in Hawaii. Barack Hussein Obama II”.
And it sounds like Abercrombie is saying that may well be what they’ve got, if anything.
The way to force answers is through a state eligibility bill. If we could each take 5 minutes to copy the bill at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final-short-form-eligibility-bill1.pdf , find our state legislators’ e-mail address, and C&P that bill into an e-mail asking them to introduce and pass that bill.... we could possibly get the answers we’ve all spent so much time wondering about.
And then we could get back to speculating together. =)
I don't know about Harvard or Columbia, but this is from Occidental Colleges website :
Neither Obamas image or name appear in any Occidental yearbooks or the weekly student newspaper for the years he attended. The picture featured on this page is the only one we have of the president; it was sent in with his Occidental application
I don’t get how all this squares with the statements of Dr. Fukino:
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago....”
Was she lying then? Is Abercrombie lying now?
Leave aside that Dr. Fukino is not empowered to determine who is or is not a “natural born citizen” when even our Supreme Court will not clearly interpret that language of the Constitution, she claims she saw the ‘original vital records’ on file in the HI State Dept of Health. Either they were there or they were not; if they were there, why can’t Abercrombie & Co. find them?
Yup. Sure is. This obvious fact seems lost on birthers, though.
Ever consider the possibility that he enjoys the controversy, as it keeps his opponents distracted?
They're both telling the truth. Nothing Abercrombie said contradicts Fukino's statements.
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