"Peaceful Mob" Corners and Detains Wisconsin GOP Senator Glenn Grothman; Saved By Dem Rep Hulsey

Half the country want to be free and have the country wants to own slaves. We've been here before, and the result isn't pretty.

It will in fact ba a lot worse. The Civil War had clearly defined boundaries with large relatively safe areas containing the vast majority of the population. With the exceptions of Richmond, Columbia SC and Atlanta very few civilians saw the impact of total war. In the upcoming war we will all be residents of Bleeding Kansas. It won't be armies fighting along a front but raid and counter raid by ruthless gangs.

While it is popular, especially among southerners, to vilify Sherman, at least he concentrated on items with military value. He did not for example line up civilians by the thousand and have them shot. He just burned everything that would be of use to the other side. And his people stopped burning when he told them to. That may seem a minor point, but an army under control of a leader, no matter how ruthless, is far easier to deal with than a collection of street gangs held together by nothing more than a desire to loot and pillage.

We will be facing a situation like Lebanon where nobody controls more than a fraction of the mob on either side. There is no way to end the war short of exterminating the other side. And in many places the "other side" are going to be friends and relatives. Getting ugly doesn't even start to describe what is happening.

Scary stuff.

If the Tea Party were doing this, you can be sure we would have been arrested and everyone of us kicked out LAST week.

And our press would have been calling for Tea Party heads by now.

This just shows how much we have going against us.

“Guess it’s time to call in the National Guard.”

Obama sent them to Iraq.

Just under 1,000 Wisconsin Guard Soldiers and Airmen are currently serving on active duty - mostly in Iraq including about 300 Madison-based Soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 147th Aviation Regiment and 400 members of the 724th Engineer Battalion from several northern Wisconsin communities,

Wisconsin Department of Military Affairs News

Wisconsin’s new commander in chief addresses deployed Guard troops
Date: January 3, 2011
Wisconsin National Guard Public Affairs Office

The first Wisconsin National Guard troops to be addressed by their new commander in chief stayed up until 2:30 a.m. Iraq time for the privilege.

Back in Wisconsin, Governor-Elect Scott Walker spoke with deployed members of the 724th Engineer Battalion - known as “Task Force Badger” in Iraq - during halftime of the Jan. 1 Rose Bowl game featuring the University of Wisconsin Badgers against the Texas Christian University Horned Frogs. The “Halftime with the Troops” event at the East Side Club in Madison included some military family members, and began with a short video of the 724th cheering on the Badgers.

“We cheer our Badgers deployed in Iraq,” Walker said during the satellite feed to a room filled with 724th Soldiers. “God bless you - we can’t thank you enough.”

Walker also led the room in two cheers for the 724th: “We love you, God bless you,” and “Go, Badgers.”

Lt. Col. David O’Donahue, commander of the 724th, thanked Walker on behalf of the 870 Soldiers - many from units outside of the Wisconsin National Guard - who make up Task Force Badger.

“The guys behind me put it on the line every day,” O’Donahue said. “They have probably the toughest job in Iraq - road clearance. But we’re doing it right and looking forward to coming home in a few months.”

I agree. Also, if one is lucky enough to live in a society that is mostly agricultural, you can grow your own food in a crisis. If you don't know how, your neighbor can help you out. A few chickens, a plot of land, maybe some goats, you could make do for awhile. The Civil War was not a pleasant time, but I think few people starved.

The bad news: the vast majority of Americans don't live anywhere near that kind of lifestyle. No land. No knowledge. No helpful neighbor. No place to get chickens, goats, or seeds.

The preppers will do fine. The other 95% of the population? Look out!!

I agree. Also, if one is lucky enough to live in a society that is mostly agricultural, you can grow your own food in a crisis. If you don't know how, your neighbor can help you out. A few chickens, a plot of land, maybe some goats, you could make do for awhile. The Civil War was not a pleasant time, but I think few people starved.

Exactly there is a big difference between going hungry and starving. Basically you recover quickly from missing a meal or two. Starvation tends to be permanent. Also despite all the talk of the devastation from Sherman's March it was only a strip 60 miles wide. So you never had more than a day or two walk to get out of the devastated zone. Now you are going to see devastated zones covering entire states. Where you can't carry enough food and supplies to make walking out an option.

As for the prepers, it depends on how total and how long the devastation is. Localized devastation for a few months then yes you can stick it out with baked beans in the cellar. After a year or two if you are not living on the land you will be buried under it. And unfortunately for the vast majority of us our jobs are not out in farm country. So if it comes we tend to favor quick and nasty over long and drawn out. The Western model of decisive war as opposed to the Eastern model of protracted conflict.

Half the country want to be free and half the country wants to own the other half as slaves.

As I see it, it's not all that different today from the days of the First American Revolution.

Roughly 1/3 of the colonials wanted to remain British subjects.
Roughly 1/3 of the colonials didn't care one way or the other.
Roughly 1/3 of the colonials wished to live as free men, and passionately so.

Roughly 3% were actively engaged at any one time in the fight for freedom. I'm a proud three-percenter. If that be treason then I invite our aspiring slave mastes to make the most of it. So now, 235 years later, here is what we face:

“It is your mind that they want you to surrender-all those who preach the creed of sacrifice, whatever their tags or their motives, whether they demand it for the sake of your soul or of your body, whether they promise you another life in heaven or a full stomach on this earth. Those who start by saying: ‘It is selfish to pursue your own wishes, you must sacrifice them to the wishes of others’-end up by saying: ‘It is selfish to uphold your convictions, you must sacrifice them to the convictions of others.”
“This much is true: the most selfish of all things is the independent mind that recognizes no authority higher than its own and no value higher than its judgment of truth. You are asked to sacrifice your intellectual integrity, your logic, your reason, your standard of truth-in favor of becoming a prostitute whose standard is the greatest good for the greatest number.”
“If you search your code for guidance, for an answer to the question: ‘What is the good?’-the only answer you will find is ‘The good of others.’ The good is whatever others wish, whatever you feel they feel they wish, or whatever you feel they ought to feel. ‘The good of others’ is a magic formula that transforms anything into gold, a formula to be recited as a guarantee of moral glory and as a fumigator for any action, even the slaughter of a continent. Your standard of virtue is not an object, not an act, not a principle, but an intention. You need no proof, no reasons, no success, you need not achieve in fact the good of others-all you need to know is that your motive was the good of others, not your own. Your only definition of the good is a negation: the good is the ‘non-good for me.’”
“Your code-which boasts that it upholds eternal, absolute, objective moral values and scorns the conditional, the relative and the subjective-your code hands out, as its version of the absolute, the following rule of moral conduct: If you wish it, it’s evil; if others wish it, it’s good; if the motive of your action is your welfare, don’t do it; if the motive is the welfare of others, then anything goes.”
--Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged - from John Galt's speech

These are the enemies of civilization - killers without conscience , preaching a phony morality of human sacrifice and servitude in the service of enslaving you to their own sick will to power. In researching my book, one of the recurring main themes is that monsters such as these aren't merely content with slavery and slaughter: they demand your applause while they are doing it. If there is anything more monstrous, more deserving of complete and utter extinction, I don't know what it is.

This is the depth of perversion into which our Western civilization has sunk. This is the nature of our enemies. The time for apologies, for self-effacement, for Mr. Nice Guy is over. We owe these monsters nothing. Nothing except their own extinction.

Union zombies trying to get Glen’s brain. Dem assemblyman unmolested.

Sorry, I wasn’t aware...i’m not from WI. I had no idea.
God bless them all,and I pray they come home soon,safe and sound.
Can’t a neighboring state,working in unison with Gov Walker’s office,offer up their Guard to help out? Something must be done. It’s gone way beyond freedom of speech,and no longer a mere redress of grievances. This is tantamount to insurrection.

Thanks EdReform.