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President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF has “Layers”
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Posted on 04/27/2011 11:25:17 AM PDT by Mr. K

When viewing the PDF in Adobe the text can be removed and added in Layers

You can compress all layers down to one, but someone clearly did not do that last step to make a good forgery


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; layers; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamalegacy; shrek; transparency; victory; waronerror
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To: kadeeu
What I don’t understand is why Mr. Oboma had to go to the state to get a copy of both versions of his BC. Didn’t he have his own copy? What has he used all his life? Surely he has needed to provide it at various times over the years.

MOST American's have a copy in their possession and have to use it for various reasons throughout their lives!

241 posted on 04/27/2011 1:48:27 PM PDT by blondee123 (Obama-Socialist in Chief!)
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To: Jeff Winston
Obama himself, bad though he may be, is not the main driving force for increased socialism, government overspending, and exploding debt that now threatens to bankrupt us as a nation. He could do nothing if it weren't for those who voted him into office, and unless the PEOPLE of our country can be made to see that we're headed down the wrong path, when he is gone they will likely vote in someone even worse than he is.

This can only come through some form of easy-to-understand and convincing education of the masses that actually reaches those who supported Obama and will support others like him.

Most of those who voted for him, are lazy & don't care about their freedoms (obviously) they just want the government to take care of them, so they can hang out all day & nite & not have to work! Educate them? That would sound too much like work to them!

242 posted on 04/27/2011 1:52:56 PM PDT by blondee123 (Obama-Socialist in Chief!)
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To: PIF

The answers to those questions are irrelevant because nothing will satisfy you.

If you’d use your brain, just a little bit, you’d answer your own questions.


243 posted on 04/27/2011 1:53:17 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: PIF

Have you bothered to examine recently obtained Hawaiian long-form BCs to determine whether or not they resemble Obama’s or are you just repeating the questions that sound good to you?


244 posted on 04/27/2011 2:00:15 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Take a look carefully at the green version. Enlarged to 400%, you can see the distortion caused by a State embossed stamp directly under item #21. It is a circle, and extends well into the white space.

Perhaps coincidentally, the bottom portion of the embossed symbol’s distortion artifact is layered over by a white box.

Hmmmmmm........

Why wouldn’t the 0bummers WANT to show the State embossing?


245 posted on 04/27/2011 2:06:39 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: iheartyou; 50mm; darkwing104; Darksheare; TheOldLady; Allegra
iheartyou
Since Apr 27, 2011


246 posted on 04/27/2011 2:11:48 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The American taxpayer cannot support the tax and spend habits of DC.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Dear Mr. BuckeyeTexan,

I was just asking how something impossible could be valid. A recently obtained BC is not the original, which is what this tossup is all about.

Comparing the released pdf to another BC from the same time and same hospital (the Susan one) shows many differences between the two. If the pdf in question was of the original then those differences would not exist.

I do not woish to persue this matter futher. There are more pressing problems and more intersting articles to read.

Thank you for responding.


247 posted on 04/27/2011 2:15:38 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: OregonRancher
I have one question. If the left side of the document was blown up, would the lettering follow the slight curvature of the left side of the page? Just when the lines start to curve downward, it looks to the naked eye as if the printing stays in a straight line.

When opened in Photoshop at high resolution, the crop tool can be used as straight line to detect deviation. The deviation of both the text and lines are the same. More curve at the top of the document than at the bottom, which is not unusual when copying from a bound source.

248 posted on 04/27/2011 2:16:28 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: PIF

It’s impossible only in your brain. As I said, if you’d use the brain God gave you, you’d have your answers.


249 posted on 04/27/2011 2:18:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I didn’t see anywhere on the BC where it identified Obozo’s race/ethnicity. His father’s is identified as African, which makes sense, since he was born in Africa, not in the U.S. I’m thinking that his father would not have been identified as “Negro” because he was born in Africa.


250 posted on 04/27/2011 2:42:40 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: Yaelle
"Did the nurse write the date for the women, or something?". I don't believe that medical staff is permitted to do that. Unless you are unable to write-which happened to me once and they still had me mark an "X" - they had to hold the pen in my hand, and move my hand, but it was required that it be done by my own hand. And if you look at the other Nordyke twins certificate - the date signature looks a bit different than the one on Susan's. Yet those were clearly signed at the same time. And, there would have been quite a few nurses, what are the odds that the two women had the same nurse/same day/ who for some reason filled in the date for both women? I know when I had my children I had to fill every field myself. .
251 posted on 04/27/2011 2:43:30 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

Forgot the link:

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/pants-on-the-ground


252 posted on 04/27/2011 2:44:28 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: PIF

The green background is not from 1961. The cert is printed onto that paper from the original which is in a bound book, which is evident from the curvature on the left hand side.


253 posted on 04/27/2011 2:47:28 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: mnehring

Note this, all


254 posted on 04/27/2011 3:13:34 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: GunRunner
It's called Optical Character Recognition software. When you scan something into a PDF, Acrobat scans the text into different layers and makes the text searchable.

It is my true hope that you or another FReeper posts a new thread demonstrating this for all of us to see. My daughter knows a LOT more about computers than I do and she's yelling "fake!" because of the layers.

If someone could PLEASE demonstrate this, it would save us ALL a big headache!

(I'm one of the ones who thinks this all stinks to high-heaven, but desperately wants the issue to go away so we can focus on slamming the jerk into the ground for destroying our economy!)

255 posted on 04/27/2011 3:14:52 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I go by my middle name per family tradition, and that signature was the first thing that jumped out at me. I have never signed an official document with my middle name only, only to go back and add my first name in parentheses. That a signer would use parentheses at all is bizarre.

It’s as if someone familiar with the recent Ann/Anna Toot story felt the need to add “(Stanley)” in there to clarify things. None of the signatures appear original to the birth certificate, either. “(Stanley)” in particular seems to have been written, not signed.

Is it not true that ANY alterations or markings on an official document renders it void?


256 posted on 04/27/2011 3:17:03 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: Mr. K
Hmmm! Breaking my vow to myself to never get involved in this debate...Particularly since it is not his "birth" certificate that is thing I'd most want to see...

However, it seems (unscientifically) to me (without choosing sides) that most of those who claim it is a forgery are FR old-timers and most of those who accept it at face value are relative newbies...

Just saying...

257 posted on 04/27/2011 3:17:31 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Ladysforest

What about in comparison between the Nordyke twins and BO, the registrars are different, did they have different ones back then?


258 posted on 04/27/2011 3:32:39 PM PDT by Jewels7
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To: Arrowhead1952
This is how that "long form" was created.


259 posted on 04/27/2011 3:55:56 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Marie
Try this:

http://www.dclab.com/pdfconversion3.asp

When you scan a document into a PDF, the software can actually pull apart the image into different layers. It can recognize text, images, background, etc. and organize them into different layers. The most important aspect of this is the text layer which uses a technology called Optical Character Recognition, which tries to convert what it's scanning on the page into actual text that can then be searched. Governments and archives that have massive amounts of old paper documents (like deeds, birth certs, legal paperwork, and everything else you can imagine) that they need to be scanned into computer systems use this because if you just scan a document and save it as an image or picture file, your computer isn't smart enough to tell that it's looking at text; all it sees is a picture.

For example, if you take a picture of a stop sign and load it into your computer, you can't then search your documents and files for the word 'stop' and expect the computer to recognize it, just like if you take a picture of a printed form with your name on it and load it as a picture, you can't search your name and have the picture file show up. All the computer sees is bits of data that tell it what to display in a certain picture format. It doesn't see any difference between a printed letter 'T' and a picture of a cross. That's why when you scan a document in using the OCR, it uses an algorithm to detect text that can then be searchable.

What happened here is that whoever scanned the image of the printed document forgot to turn the OCR setting off, so when it when it scanned Obama's cert, it tried to break it out into different layers for background image, high res images, text, and so on. This setting was probably turned on at the Hawaii records office because they most likely do use OCR to scan old documents into digital formats.

The problem is that OCR isn't always accurate hence the discrepancies in the layers. You can tell that this isn't the same as Photoshop layers, where multiple images sit on top of one another, because the background image layer has white shadows for where the text has been lifted out into a different layer. The software isn't smart enough to know what is behind every typed letter or signature, so it leaves it blank, hence you have white outlines of all the text and boxes on the background layer, and the background layer itself looks like someone went through and wrote everything in white out.

Make sense?

260 posted on 04/27/2011 3:57:47 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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