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Research Summary on Hawaii Birth Certificate Number 151-1961-010641:
The Post & Email ^ | May 13, 2011 | Researcher

Posted on 05/13/2011 11:28:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

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To: stuartcr

Because you will no longer be posting on out threads asking stupid questions.


41 posted on 05/13/2011 1:34:22 PM PDT by stockpirate (Republicans that vote for socialism, support socialists are socialists.)
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To: stuartcr

Because you will no longer be posting on our threads asking stupid questions.


42 posted on 05/13/2011 1:34:31 PM PDT by stockpirate (Republicans that vote for socialism, support socialists are socialists.)
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To: mquinn

Worried, troll?


43 posted on 05/13/2011 1:34:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: lula

BINGO! and the concern troll is so very concerned.


44 posted on 05/13/2011 1:36:17 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
SUBJ: EXPLANATION FOR LATER OBAMA BC NUMBER

I just emailed the following at 2:54 PM CT, today, Friday, 05/13/2011, to info@devrich.com, the guy who made the video re: the purported "birth certificate" on http://FakeBirthCertificate.org, debunking the version found on http://WhiteHouse.gov:

Dear info@devrich.com,

I saw your video of Obama's alleged "Birth Certificate."

You analysis is GREAT, but I think you stated that the twins were born hours before him.

The OBAMA "certificate"
Birth: 7:24 PM on 08/*04*/1961
Signed: 08/08/1961
Certificate: 10641

The TWINS' certificates:
Birth: 2:12 PM and 2:17 PM on 08/*05*/1961
Signed: 08/11/1961
Certificates: 10637 an 10638

--i.e. the twins were born 19 "certificate-hours" "LATER"--
with 10637 an 10638, and 5 minutes apart, respectively

The MOST LOGICAL explanation is that **IF** Obama was ACTUALLY born in **KENYA**, it would have taken EXTRA TIME for even a PHONE CALL to be made back to Hawaii---via a long distance operator---or even a wire---to relay the message of the birth to Hawaii.

In addition, according to the world map found at WORLD MAP WITH TIME ZONES (http://www.worldtimezone.com/index24.php), Kenya is THIRTEEN (13) HOURS **AHEAD** of Hawaii, due to the time zones, so:

KENYA @ 1924 (7:24 PM) on 08/04/1961 (Obama's purported birth time) would be
HAWAII @ 0624 (6:24 AM) on 08/04/1961 (1924 - 1300 = HAWAII 0624) and

HAWAII @ 1412 (2:12 PM) on 08/**05**/1961 (the first twin's birth date & time) would be
KENYA @ 0312 (3:12 AM) on 08/**06**/1961 (HI 1412 + 1300 = KENYA 2712, putting it to the next day)

Comparing the times in Kenyan time, Obama was born at 1924 on 08/04/1961 KENYAN TIME
and the first twin was born at 0312 on 08/**06**/1961 KENYAN TIME,
so if Obama was born in Kenya, he was born 1 DAY, 7 HRS, 48 MIN earlier than the first twin:

08/04/1961 @ 2400 minus
08/04/1961 @ 1924 equals 4 hrs 36 min before on 8/04/1961

Plus ALL 24 hrs of 08/05/1961

08/06/1961 @ 0312 minus
08/06/1961 @ 0000 equals 3 hrs 12 min of 08/06/1961

TOTAL: **IF** Obama was born in KENYA, he was born 1 DAY, 7 HRS, 48 MIN of **ACTUAL** TIME PASSING **BEFORE** the first twin was born in Hawaii.

If Obama's mother (or Obama's purported Kenyan relatives) did not or could not get a phone call placed through to Hawaii that night (remember how hard it was to make long distance calls even WITHIN the U.S. in 1961, much less FROM AFRICA), it could very well might not have even been ATTEMPTED until 0800 (8 AM) Kenyan time on 08/05/1961 (i.e. the next day), and could VERY EASILY have taken until JUST AFTER the TWINS' BIRTH, to even be known about in Hawaii and forwarded to the proper authorities for recording the birth of the child of Hawaiian residents.

If actual "Doctors" (or "officials") in Hawaii were made aware of the birth as soon as it was known in Hawaii (or they received some sort of actual documentation via wire from Kenya), they may have SIGNED the "certificate" on 08/08/1961, but may have WAITED for some actual documents to arrive by wire.

It is the only LOGICAL explanation that makes sense to me.

45 posted on 05/13/2011 1:38:12 PM PDT by Concerned (My Motto: It's NEVER wrong to do what's RIGHT!!! -- VoteSurber.org)
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To: mquinn

keep drinking your kool-aid, 0bot.


46 posted on 05/13/2011 1:40:41 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That.... is a troll.


47 posted on 05/13/2011 1:42:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: mquinn; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; Candor7
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48 posted on 05/13/2011 1:42:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: LucyT

:) tick tock


49 posted on 05/13/2011 1:45:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: LucyT; BP2; Fred Nerks; Jim Robinson
■A small group of researchers that I work with identified an infant girl named Virginia Sunahara, born on August 4, 1961 at Wahiawa Hospital in Wahiawa, Oahu, HI.

Due to complications, she was transferred to and later died at Kapiolani Women and Children’s Medical Center (most likely) on August 5, 1961.


I believe this piece of particular evidence was originally found by BP2 in 2009, and Fred Nerks re-found this key information while researching FR.

It is a logical choice for Obama to use Virginia's birth certificate number for a forgery, and this lead is now being followed up. :-)

50 posted on 05/13/2011 1:53:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Interesting. With each piece of information it appears HI is covering for corrupt practices from years ago.
51 posted on 05/13/2011 2:08:23 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: PA Engineer

Three years at FR makes for a newb?


52 posted on 05/13/2011 2:37:15 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo

Is it me or is tension building on this thread?


53 posted on 05/13/2011 2:40:26 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: magna carta

I fear so.


54 posted on 05/13/2011 2:45:28 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: mquinn

Oh, birthers, you will never fail to find new sources of tinfoil.


“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.”

Barack Barry Soebarkah Dunham Obama II


55 posted on 05/13/2011 2:45:51 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: El Sordo

Birthers are a tool of Big Bauxite.


Anti-Birthers are a tool of George Soros/Open Society...


56 posted on 05/13/2011 2:47:07 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: mvonfr

So the real name of the Kenyan is [i]Virginia Sunahara[/i] ? Interesting....


Well, the Kenyan did get caught wearing mom jeans on national tv throwing out a first pitch...


57 posted on 05/13/2011 2:48:11 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7; melancholy

Just got a breaking news tweet that Lakin has been released from leavenworth. Fyi


58 posted on 05/13/2011 2:48:33 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: El Sordo
Three years at FR makes for a newb?

Why not?
59 posted on 05/13/2011 2:51:25 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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Just got a breaking news tweet that Lakin has been released from leavenworth. Fyi

Thanks, tutstar.

60 posted on 05/13/2011 2:54:43 PM PDT by LucyT
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