Posted on 05/16/2011 8:40:02 PM PDT by wrastu
Here it comes
Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr.
http://www.mikechurch.com/Today-s-Lead-Story/in-sheriff-if-we-need-to-conduct-random-house-to-house-searches-we-will.html
Mitch, don’t bother running, I will campaign AGAINST you.
By the logic being used, if a court case ruled that a cop was wrong in just shooting someone for speeding, we'd have a chorus of FReepers claiming the case said that people had the right to speed.
I have as many questions about the ISC case as anyone, but that doesn't mean we should be making things up or acting like idiots.
I saw his post dripping with sarcasm
Here is one for the knitting.
If the line I read says “illegal” search, then what the court is saying, is that citizens have no right to resist with force, but if the search takes place illegally,and without a warrant,you could still sue the crap out of the city or county that the police worked for?
Okay, so it looks like Allison Bricker is a great libertarian fighting a good fight for Ron Paul and against Big Government....no problem....but is this post the standard of evidence upon which we start talking about forceably removing someone who's in office by lawful means?
IANAL, but yes.
It doesn’t say, “Open season on searching!”
Is this ruling being appealed? Kruschev said they would bring us down from within. We’re seeing it happen bit by bit.
Section 11. Search and seizure
Section 11. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable search or seizure, shall not be violated; and no warrant shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or thing to be seized.
http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/inconst/art-1.html#sec-11
What part of this is unclear? So we need a law for the law?
What happens when they search your house? Once they are in the door it is over. Any thing they perceive as a threat can and will be confiscated whether it is under lock and key or not. Do you really think that they are not going to ransack your house ‘conducting a search?’ What about the lovely family dog who perceives them as a threat being shot dead due to an unlawful entry search and seizure activity?
This ruling needs to get overturned like...yesterday. This ruling truly had little to do with the case at hand that had probable cause, after the officers were called to home.
America’s is no longer the land of the free nor home of the brave - she is lost to the atheistic socialist ideals. It is disgusting to see people actually defend this lunatic ruling in Indiana and it is not surprising to see just how quickly people are willing to give up their rights in an effort to take rights from others. We are ruled by tyrants and, generally, Americans are too ignorant and narrow minded to even understand it. They’re too busy trying to oppress others today to realize how they will be oppressed tomorrow. Idiots.
Which is exactly why the court said you had no right to resist.
Looks like it’s over. Getting my passport renewed, and leaving for a free country as quickly as possible.
No, but the Sheriff sure thinks it did...
Indiana has the most secretive police like state structure. It definitely has its vile lot behind the otherwise quiet Hoosier. That state is extremely vulnerable to communism and feminism.
“Yep, your house and butt is mine, cuz I’m the Sheriff, I said so, and there is no turning back from that” is the general attitude.
Of course, this doesn't address the fact that an already illegal action, being taken under color of law, affords the offending police officer the widest possible latitude to “arrange” the particulars so as to provide themselves with a plausible defense against such a suit.
That means "lie" to save their own ass....
They ritualisticaly lie in Indiana courts. Lawyers advice over there is to not cooperate, EVEN IN COURT.
CPS was used before to conduct searches even while people were not present in their own homes. CPS seemed to be a pass for about everything, but I guess they extended it to now anything goes.
Since you posted from this guy, who is Mike Church? I’ve never heard of him. His web site looks like he stole the whole thing from Limbaugh.
Remember that slippery slope I mentioned yesterday... Here it is...
Yah, who DIDN’T see this one coming?
If the jack boots do this - I could care less if many of them get injured or worse. Screw em.
F the police.
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