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FN Contributor Maj Gen Vallely: Ret CIA Agents Look At Obama's Birth Certificate, Say it's a Fraud
obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ^ | 06/14/2011 | ObamaRelease YourRecords

Posted on 06/14/2011 6:00:44 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: Elendur

What’s the downside to a Soetoro adoption? That he was, for a while, an Indonesian?


41 posted on 06/14/2011 8:49:58 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: atc23

Yes. And that he leveraged it as a college student after the age of 18. Thus the 999-99-xxxx social security numbers that associated with him in California that are used by foreign national students.


42 posted on 06/14/2011 9:06:35 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: atc23

What’s the downside to a Soetoro adoption? That he was, for a while, an Indonesian?
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nope. it’s simple. His LEGAL name is Barry Soetoro.
he never legally changed his name back.
THAT is what his own lawyer meant by “hiding embarrassment”.
(and, he had Indonesian citizenship. not a crime. doesn’t prevent him from being president. IF he renounced it at age 18. which he didn’t...)

... i’m getting married, and planning on adopting her young son. no conspiracy. it’s logical and normal. especially if the “bad” Father, abandoned the wife and baby.
so, that is exactly what Soetoro did. adopted Barry.

this fits a TON of facts. (Occam’s razor).
in this case, the original BC would be sealed (which Butterdezillion has found evidence of).
Indonesian schools require it. the missing page 11 of SAD’s divorce papers. SAD’s missing passport records. missing kindergarten records.

and then possibly, he later registered as a foreign student. (that Al-Quada terrorist did this! i forget his name. but the one that was born in the USA, and got financial aid as a foreign student....)

Obama admits going to Pakistan in 1981. (not prohibited. that’s a myth.) but, there is evidence he never had a USA passport until 2004. he traveled to Pak, on his indonesian passport.
later, he went to Indonesia to write his famous book. he spent many months there. which was impossible to get a visa that long on a US passport. but, if he still had his indonesian one...

and finally, and most obvious, he has a Connecticut SSN. which is IMPOSSIBLE for a Hawaiian teenager to get.
...the law then, required him to apply in person. in CT.
(more likely, it was his 2nd SSN, which he used to register for college, possibly as a foreign student. again, it fits a lot of facts well.)
but it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to have legally gotten a CT SSN...


43 posted on 06/14/2011 9:22:39 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: atc23

and that’s just a partial summary. there is tons more. almost all of which i learned here, from Butterdezillion, Bluecat6, little jeremiah, Red Steel, seizethecarp, and many others, who have done a ton of serious research.

(one tiny sample, is Bill Ayers, wrote as a terrorist, they went to graveyards, to find dead babies to steal ID from.
Butterdezillion found a record of Virginia Sunahara, born the same day as Obama, but died a day later. yet Hawaii DOH officially denies any record of her. Yet Butterdezillion has the name on a DOH abstract.)


44 posted on 06/14/2011 9:29:17 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur
(and, he had Indonesian citizenship. not a crime. doesn’t prevent him from being president.

If his surname was Soetoro and he used Obama and declared on his application to the Illinois State Bar that he had not been known by or gone by any other names, then he committed a crime.
45 posted on 06/14/2011 9:30:31 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Red Steel; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Hotlanta Mike; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; Fantasywriter; ...
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Something is totally upside down with that Dunham/obummer family. The Stanley Ann Dunham's Social Security application was revised in July 1965, but she signed it in 1959.

government forgery.

. . . . See Article at # 40.

Thanks, Red Steel.

46 posted on 06/14/2011 9:34:10 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Red Steel
Something is totally upside down with that Dunham/Obama family. The Stanley Ann Dunham's Social Security application was revised in July 1965, but she signed it in 1959.

It looks like another case of piss poor government forgery.

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Your information above is weird.

What do you think happened? That is, why would someone feel the need to forge Obama's mother's Social Security form? Thanks.

47 posted on 06/14/2011 9:35:15 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: aruanan

good point. certainly. ...there would be many crimes here.
i only meant a child with dual citizenship doesn’t prevent them from being President, as many trolls point out.

another crime is his forged Selective Service from.
Debbie Schussel showed it was a forgery. (2 digit stamps instead of 4, and many other mistakes. form from a later year than 1981, etc.)
... and that is where the Connecticut SSN first appeared.


48 posted on 06/14/2011 9:41:42 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: rambo316

I’m sure that the FBI with their new expanded powers will be eager to investigate that 22 page criminal complain they received from a document expert who has debunked Barry’s BC.


49 posted on 06/14/2011 9:44:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Red Steel

Placemark for tomorrow.


50 posted on 06/14/2011 9:47:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: rabidralph

Not if they were naturalized at the time of his birth.


51 posted on 06/14/2011 9:47:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rxsid

and still he sits in the white house.


52 posted on 06/14/2011 10:03:33 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Elendur

Just to set the record straight, I don’t do research, I just learn from the heroes and heroines on FR, ask questions, and slapdown obots ocaisionally as needed.


53 posted on 06/14/2011 10:04:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MHGinTN

I sympathize with your frustration.

The U.S.Constitution is clear - only the Congress has the power, per the U.S.Constitution, to remove a President.

So, who, or better what, has the ability to threaten our government, blackmail our Congress and Judiciary, into near paralysis and allow Obama free rein?

I strongly suggest looking at the Federal Reserve and offshore financial institutions.

When the United States economy collapses, the UN and its running dogs will offer to ‘rescue’ us. Obama will no doubt agree to their terms which will mean the end of our nation.


54 posted on 06/14/2011 10:07:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: john mirse
What do you think happened? That is, why would someone feel the need to forge Obama's mother's Social Security form? Thanks.

I don't know, although I have read somewhere that SADO had 2 social security numbers attached to her.

55 posted on 06/14/2011 10:08:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rabidralph

Not if they were both naturalized as US citizens by the time he was born.


56 posted on 06/14/2011 10:16:37 PM PDT by clashfan (know your rights)
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To: Red Steel

Thanks, Red.

So much suspicious evidence .. who in authority will act ?


57 posted on 06/14/2011 10:29:50 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Red Steel

I remember seeing SAD’s Social Security card (can’t remember who posted it). The signature on the card looks NOTHING like this signature. On the card, it looks like she signed it with her left hand...if she was right handed.


58 posted on 06/14/2011 10:32:53 PM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Red Steel; LucyT

I see where in red someone has wrote 1965 Application Form and then a red arrow pointing to a circle that says something. But I can tell it doesn’t say 1965 in that red circle. So any idea what it does say in that red circle?


59 posted on 06/14/2011 10:45:48 PM PDT by Spunky (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.)
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To: sklar

One possibility: BHO was born in Hawaii, the COLB and the LFBC are both legit, and Birthers are just suffering from Obama Derangement syndrome.


60 posted on 06/14/2011 11:00:54 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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