Posted on 08/16/2011 9:42:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
Duh. Remember Ann Richards and Lloyd "You're No Jack Kennedy" Bentsen?
The point is that 1988 was the end of Reagan's Presidency, and no conservative would be backing Gore at all during such a time.
(Remember who was President before Reagan? Jimmuh Dhimmi Carter? Like I said NO conservative would have been backing a Democrat back then.)
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Someone needs to clean her up. She actively campaigned for Rick Perry and John McCain.
All in one year!
They weren't according to Real Clear Politics -- but they were right *before* the declaration, and T-Paw dropping out.
But leaving Palin out of the Polling Choices as Rasmussen did, might affect the results.
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Not sure McCotter has the foreign policy chops to make it on Sarah's ticket: but otherwise I pretty much love the guy--I saw him at RightOnline in Minneapolis recently.
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The question in 1988 was, Are you better off now than eight years ago? Maybe Perry was one of the two or three people, if that, who wasn’t.
Since Romney is fizzling, they're promoting him in hopes of forestalling the Tea Party takeover of the GOP.
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I can't post the picture I want to, since it'd cause trouble.
So I'll settle for this:
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You're a troll.
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Israel would never have presented Rick Perry with the the Defender of Jerusalem Award if were true that Perry supports the radical, extremist Islam that wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map.
It's important to understand the context of Perry's speech. He was speaking to and about Aga Khan and the Ismailis, who represent a minority (tens of millions) of the 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide. They are persecuted by the majority of Islam. Ismailis are philanthropical and nonviolent. They reject burqas, gender apartheid, and all forms of violent jihad. They're not wife-beaters and don't perform honor killings.
As a Christian, Perry would not (and doesn't) support a group who believes in converting or killing opponents of Islam. Since 9/11, we've been asking "where are the moderate Muslims who condemn violent jihad?" The Ismailis are that group.
DRey, I understand you’re enthusiastic about Governor Perry. I hope he’s as conservative and Christian as you seem to think he is. That wouldn’t disappoint me. I just feel more ideologically aligned with Palin, Bachmann, and Cain. That doesn’t mean Perry is my enemy.
As for getting on board the Perry campaign now (or I’ll be shedding tears), it’s still early in the campaign season, and I wouldn’t want either of us reduced to tears about the eventual outcome.
If Perry is the nominee, I’ll eagerly support him in the general election. The same thing applies to all the Republican candidates except Romney. He’s the only one who could have me shedding tears if he’s the nominee, and I think we both agree on that.
Much better to make it explicitly optional, with an “opt-in” — and that’d’ve opened up a whole new firestorm from the conservative parents about morality...
If I had my say, it wouldn’t have been in the school at all ... if the parents thought they needed it they would have brought their kids to a Dr.
I was “not invited back” to a private school for not signing on (well and a few well chosen expletives at a faculty meeting) to a en loco parentis clause that featured the ability to bring a young lady to visit a “planned parenthood” center without parental notification - before OR after.
This kind of thing is a bit of a sore spot, you see. The article seemed to state (or the author obfuscated) the clear position. And there must have been one.
You miss the whole point. Perry wasn’t a conservative in 1988. He was still a Democrat. He was conservative by Democratic standards not by Republican standards.
While the rest of the country was experiencing the Reagan Revolution, Texas was still controlled by Democrats. Yes, Reagan won Texas in the national election, but our state legislature was Democratic not Republican. The Senate had 23 Democrats, 8 Republicans. The House had 91 Democrats, 59 Republicans.
Your complaint seems to be that Perry didn’t switch parties during the Reagan Era. My point is that it is unreasonable to expect that given the political culture in Texas at the time.
Gosh darn it, we'll have to agree to disagree, you betcha!
Let me see if I can find my 2x4 to help persuade you.
I heard what you said about the Gardasil...and agree with you up to the last point, in which you call it procedural rather than substantive.
The reason I disagree, is that after Bill Clinton, and especially after Planned Parenthood and the sexualization of children in the schools (think Kevin Jennings!) the *last* thing we need is encouragement of immorality on the part of schoolchildren: and a vaccine might give the same type of false security that a spermicide does -- it is not efficacious against other STD's, as you point out -- but this is a *detriment* not merely a feature. (Let alone a broken heart or loss of innocence: which affects marriage stability and therefore society as a whole down the road.)
Compounding this (though I didn't know it when I wrote the vanity last night) is Michelle Malkin's excellent article today in which she quotes Perry's representative:
"Not only did Perry defend going above the heads of elected state legislators, but his office also falsely claimed the legislature had no right to repeal the executive order. “The order is effective until Perry or a successor changes it, and the Legislature has no authority to repeal it,” Perry spokeswoman Krista Moody told The Washington Post in February 2007."
This is neither conservative (in subject) nor libertarian (in bent, behaviour). It is more like Romney meets Kerry meets Obama.
In other words, don't just consider the lack of rens mea but his ex post facto mea culpa for acting in loco parentis. :-)
For the Trans Texas Corridor --
This is Texas, second-largest state in the Union. There are likely to be comparatively few roads in good repair compared to the TTC once it is built. (Yes, I'm aware of the interminable frontage roads parallel to the main highways: with speed limits half that of the highway.) So even if it is not compulsion de jure it is pretty close de facto. I mentioned "green" simply because part of the TTC would the ubiquitous high-speed trains which seem to be all the rage.
You are correct in pointing out that there is nothing intrinsically anti-conservative in building roads and railways: but there is something of crony capitalism likely when there is so much money at stake; and your reply leaves out the little circumstance that the TTC is supposed to go from the Effing Mexican BorderTM for increased numbers of Mexican trucks...AND that the company collecting the tolls is SPANISH. Whatever happened to "Buy American?" A cynic might even suggest that the arrangement was made this way, to make any bribery or skulduggery harder to trace.
As far as "Soft on Islam" -- my piece linked to a Perry speech from 2008 or 2009 where he *quoted the Koran*.
'Nuff said. (Where is the ACLU anyway?)
Polling Data -- my point was simply that Perry's apparent surge is only seen in one major poll which did NOT include Palin as a competitor, and was taken right when Perry declared and T-Paw dropped out.
Perry is attempting to suck the oxygen out of the room, but he has not faced withering national criticism from all sides as Palin has.
Palin *is* the oxygen in the room: wheresoever she goes throughout the country she is mobbed (genuine enthusiasm, not astroturf, nor political consultants).
I read somewhere on FR today an article that Palin will hold off for about two-three more weeks to let Perry and Romney bloody each other, then enter. If you can find the article, I found it plausible, but not yet compelling my agreement.
Thanks for a detailed, fact-based, logical response without flames.
(What would your namesake have felt about Perry?)
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I’m glad to hear it. I’m not your enemy, citizen. I have always liked Palin. She is not running. I know Perry, and he is under siege by the left and some conservatives. His record and motives are being skewed just like Palin’s. It was terrible and not right then. It is terrible and not right now. I’m all for vetting. But malice is something else. Not that I’m accusing you of malice, I’m just saying it’s been a little ridiculous the last few days and I’m not about to sit around and watch any Christian be slandered. If that makes me a Perrybot or his foremost defender, I’m proud to accept the title. Anyone but Obama, but preferably Perry for me.
You honestly believe another TEXAN is going to beat a black man for President?
Notice that nobody has even *tried* the race card on Palin.
She even has Tammy Bruce as an activist supporter: where are the "Queers for Perry" ? (Speaking of crossover appeal since you bring it up.)
As far as the rest, I wrote it off when I saw you were from Texas: I've only seen one Texan on FR who isn't automatically, blindly, for Perry.
Take it somewhere else.
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So I prefer Palin as the flamethrower candidate; in addition, when Perry tries it, he just comes across as another swaggering full-of-himself belligerent mindless Texan.
("Did you hear me, Boy-uh?")
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Read the hypertext link RHINESTONE RINO from this thread.
Read the warning on Rick Perry.
Read the Michelle Malkin piece on Gardasil.
Read posts #52 and #72 this thread.
For Palin:
Read Going Rogue (look on Amazon or the library) and/or see The Undefeated.
Then, make up your own mind.
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I’ve come around to Palin, and hope she declares. I bore her a grudge for quite a while, for screwing with our GA gubernatorial race. Time heals all wounds, thankfully, and I’m over it. I backed Herman Cain for quite a while, and I’m still one of his biggest admirers. But if I had to pick at gunpoint, at this exact minute, I’d be for Palin. She’s the only one in the field with a proven track record of cleaning up corruption and cutting red tape for domestic energy production, two of my big priorities. In a month we should know if she’s in, right?
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