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Some of You Tea Party Folk Think Rick Perry’s the Answer?
C4P ^ | August 28, 2011 | Marc America

Posted on 08/28/2011 10:01:59 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan

If you’re a Tea Party member, or you have significant sympathies with them, I’d caution you against climbing aboard Rick Perry’s TransTexasCatastrophe. The Media is doing everything possible to paint this guy as a bronc-busting, cattle-roping, Texan, but in truth, there are more than a few things you ought to know about him. He’s no friend to individual rights, except in an election season, and he’s not really the trend-setter he’d have you believe. His record on jobs isn’t actually so swift as he’d have you believe, and he’s got less in common with the average Texan than he does with the Wall Street types with whom he prefers to consort. He’s no friend of Main Street, and he’s certainly no friend to real entrepreneurs, and for all his posturing as one of us, he isn’t, and it’s been quite plain. Those of you from outside Texas can be forgiven for mistaking Perry for a conservative. It’s assumed because he’s a Republican, and he’s from Texas, he must be. Let me now explain a bit of why this isn’t the case.

Friday I heard the increasingly estimable Mark Davis claim that you shouldn’t mind that Perry converted from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party because, as he points out, Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat too. Of course, this is a lie by omission, because what Davis doesn’t mention is that it was a long stretch of years between Reagan’s conversion and his arrival in California electoral politics. This isn’t the case with Rick Perry. He was Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Manager in 1988, and following the loss, immediately reversed course and ran as a Republican. I don’t know about you, but despite Davis’ rather disingenuous interpretation of Reagan’s conversion, painting it as just alike, I’m inclined to believe he left some details out intentionally.

Rick Perry has been a regular guest on Davis’ show on WBAP in the D/FW area for years, and to consider Davis anything like an objective or unbiased voice in this stretches all credulity. Frankly, I hope Limbaugh finds somebody else to be a regular fill in, because Davis is clearly in the tank for Perry, and it runs against Limbaugh’s general premise that he will take no position in a Republican primary, except in general terms on behalf of conservatism.

You may have heard some of Perry’s more recent statements about conditions along the Texas border with Mexico, and you might be inclined to believe Mr. Perry thinks more should be done. He even tried to repair his credibility on the issue by being broadcast on a live feed from a base of operations near the border for an interview on Greta Van Susteren’s show. If you believe that stage-managed bit of theater, I’m inclined to let you know right now that he’s relatively no more conservative in real terms than George Bush, which is to say on the matter of his statist, globalist reflexes, he’s no conservative at all. I’d hate it if anybody else broke the news to you, because I believe bad news is best delivered by a friend. Check out the following video for where Rick Perry really stands on issues of the border:

I realize there’s a tendency to overstate things in the name of supporting one’s position, but it’s really no exaggeration to suggest that Perry isn’t really very close in his thinking to Tea Party Members, not when measured against what he’s been saying since October 2010, but in what he has said all along throughout his career. He’s taken money and support from La Raza, ACORN, and other groups that advocate spending tax-payer dollars for dubious programs and projects.

He’s also a crony-capitalist. If you’re like me, that’s simply something you can’t abide. I love the free market, but Governor Perry’s revolving door between his staff and corporate boardrooms is a well-established phenomenon, and frankly, if you buy into his nonsense, he’s going to wind up exploiting your good intentions too. Companies like Merck and Cintra are more his style, and his staff has reflected this over the years of his gubernatorial reign.

You’ve undoubtedly heard about the Gardasil flap, and likely been willing to dismiss it as a fluke. That would be a serious and potentially tragic mistake. The most ridiculously egregious thing he may have done in his tenure as Governor of Texas was the proposed TransTexas Corridor. You may have heard of it, but may not have any details, so let me expound on that for a moment or two. This was the project that first enlightened me to Perry’s big government answers to all things. The upshot is this: It was to be a vast network of toll roads, but more, it would have included some form of light and heavy rail, pipelines, and all manner of things. On the surface, this might sound attractive, but as with any such project, the devil lies in the details.

The plan included 4400 linear miles of a toll road network, running parallel in many cases to existing Highways and Interstates already in existence. The corridor’s right of way was to be a full 1/4 mile wide. Simple math tells you that even ignoring junctions and interchanges, this would have consumed 1100 square miles of Texas’ territory. You might argue that while it’s a lot of land, Texas is a big state. That’s all well and good if the state already owns the land, but since it doesn’t, it was going to acquire it by use of eminent domain. Again, you might argue that building roads is one function for which eminent domain ought to apply, but once you look at the rules to be applied to this project, you might well conclude otherwise. Rather than basing their offers to property owners on free market value, they instead intended to limit it to “fair market value” as determined by a panel of cronies they would gin up for the chore.

This project actually proposed bisecting county and farm roads, and even property, dead-ending what are fairly important thoroughfares for the communities they serve. More, it would have bisected school districts and even towns along its path. Again, you might think that impossible until you understand that this was to be a closed system with few exits or on-ramps, only permitting access at major Highway and Interstate junctions. This threatened to destroy many rural communities, and they rose up against it. Once the details became clear to the public, it was quickly sent back for re-work, and eventually dumped.

Here were the things they didn’t advertise, but you need to know. It was supposed to be operate by a concessionaire, Cintra, for a period of 50 years. It was going to employ tolls of roughly $0.26 per mile. A geographical understanding of the scale of Texas immediately prompts the question: “Who on Earth would voluntarily pay to enter a closed-system roadway at that cost over the huge distances in Texas, when a free parallel alternative is just a few miles away in the form of an Interstate, or Highway?” Good question, and the answer is: Almost nobody. So how did they intend to make this work? In 2004,TxDOT applied to the USDOT for a waiver so that they could charge a toll on the existing I-35. The first leg of the proposed TTC system was called TTC-35, the leg that would run from Laredo to an undetermined point on the Oklahoma border. In other words, it was a corridor to nowhere, but in order to get you to use it, they were going to toll the free Interstate and let it fall into disrepair.

Opponents at the time argued that the existing I-35 corridor could be widened, and this was met with a dismissive rejection by Perry’s Transportation Commission. They said it couldn’t be done in a cost-efficient way. Your confusion at this statement matches that of the average Texan who realizes that this couldn’t possibly be true. How hard is it to add a few lanes here and there? Yes, you’ll have some eminent domain issues, but nothing on the scale of what the TTC proposed.

They also promised it would promote economic development, but what they kept concealed for a while, until they no longer could do so under the law, was that because it was a closed system, Cintra, the corporation from Spain that would build and operate it, would also have exclusive rights to all concessions along its length. More, due to the limitations on exits and on-ramps, it could never be shown how this colossal highway system would provide any sort of economic boon to anybody, because you wouldn’t be able to access most smaller towns from along its length. I’m sure you’ll agree with me that the fact that one of Perry’s top staffers was a former Cintra VP, and the fact that one of his own staffers had gone on to work for Cintra had absolutely nothing to do with Perry’s TTC plans. Right?

Ladies and gentlemen, if you’ve fallen prey to the hype about Perry, you may be forgiven, particularly if you’re not from Texas. You’re not aware, as so many here, that Perry isn’t the fellow he’s now being portrayed to be. He’s not a friend to the Tea Party, despite his seeming 2010 conversion, because much like his conversion in 1989, this conversion also seems to be one of convenience. I will assure you, this is most definitely the case.

Perry likes to put on an act about his conservative credentials, and his sympathies with the Tea Party, but if the truth is told, he’s no more one of us than the man in the Moon. You might want to let your fellow conservatives and Tea Party patriots know it too: We’re being hustled again.

Looks tough shooting blanks

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To: P-Marlowe
-"A lot of Palin supporters are becoming the equivalent of Ron Paul supporters."

Let me say something right now to everyone.

Rick Perry announced his candidacy to be President of the United States just measly a 15 DAYS ago.

Rick Perry said that just only 45 DAYS prior to that: "Being the president of the United States was not on my radar screen from the standpoint of something I wanted to do."

For some mystical reason that I cannot fathom, we are now just supposed just LAY DOWN, STAY QUIET, DON'T SAY A WORD, and just ACCEPT this candidate for President, without any even so much as pointing out HIS RECORD, or any RESEARCH on what this man has SAID or DONE on any of the important issues of today!

You know what I say to that?


121 posted on 08/28/2011 11:19:42 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: rintense; Jim Robinson; gov_bean_ counter

I agree that Sarah will not endorse until the nomination is set. I can’t think of any reason why she should, nor what there would be to gain for her, or for the Republican party.
An endorsement would be divisive for some and helpful to no one because of the fall out is my best guess.

122 posted on 08/28/2011 11:19:54 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: tumblindice

I hope we can get the most truly conservative candidate out there that can beat Obama - we’ve got a tough road ahead of us because the media is in the tank for him. I truly believe that he is the enemy of my country - and he is within the gates. We’re going to need all hands on board and this kind of infighting that I’m seeing on this forum is not going to help.

These are scary times, I hope we can all unite against our common enemy.

I can only assume that Palin has got a lot of feelers out right now - the last thing on earth she would want to do is to declare & then not end up being the nominee. That would pretty much finish her up as far as having any kind of influence in the future. She is a patriot and wants to serve in whatever capacity that she can do the most good. I would guess that internal polling is not in her favor right now, or she would have already declared.

Unfortunately, the media has done a lot of damage to her. She is wise enough to know this & to know that if she doesn’t enter the race this time around - she still has a shot in the future. She is young enough to have plenty of time to work on that. I don’t know if Perry is the one that can do it, but right now the polls seem to indicate that he’s got a fair shot at it.

123 posted on 08/28/2011 11:21:15 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: The Bronze Titan
My husband is from TX and still has relatives there--conservative Christians. They loathe Perry and agree with this article's description of him as a "convenient conservative"--one during elections and when it serves his purpose.

One of the amazing things about the hype for Perry's standing as TX gov. is the omission of a chief complaint against Bush when he ran--i.e. the TX gov. is not very powerful.

Still, if Perry wins, I will support him, or Mitt, or Giulianni.

Actually, I would like Giulianni above Perry or Mitt, because he was great at reforms. None are my first choice.


124 posted on 08/28/2011 11:22:26 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: icanhasbailout

“...will have nothing to do with the new priorities you would impose on it...”
You are hallucinating.
What are these priorities you claim I have imposed???

“...You are headed directly towards provoking a third-party..”
You, sir or madam, are laughable.
Do us all a favor and go check your medications.

125 posted on 08/28/2011 11:23:06 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: cherry

I agree

126 posted on 08/28/2011 11:23:48 AM PDT by mel
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To: cherry

I agree

127 posted on 08/28/2011 11:23:52 AM PDT by mel
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To: cherry

I agree

128 posted on 08/28/2011 11:23:52 AM PDT by mel
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To: cherry

I agree

129 posted on 08/28/2011 11:24:00 AM PDT by mel
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To: Repeal The 17th

I know the video by heart, thanks. Taxation is the major - but not the only - aspect of federal intervention in the economy. You are correct when you say this intervention in the economy is the core problem that the Tea Party was born to address. You are incorrect to attach any social cause that is not ultimately grounded in government stepping beyond its legitimate bounds.

Here’s a good example that will illustrate the difference between Tea Party and Social Conservative: teaching homosexuality in the schools.

Liberal position: teach kids gay sex

Social Conservative position: it’s immoral to teach kids gay sex, or any kind of sex at all - that’s a parenting function and not a school function

Tea Party position: sex should never make the cirriculum at all, that’s not what schools are for, and if a school has the money to teach that then it has too much money and should get its budget cut by whatever is spent on overreaching nonsense.

Historical note: “Taxed Enough Already” was used as a rallying point for the 4/15/2009 tax protests.

130 posted on 08/28/2011 11:24:06 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Theoretical Ideal Candidate for President 2012)
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To: The Bronze Titan

All I can say is this. If a RINO ends up being the GOP nominee, I will vote AGAINST Obama, but I will not waste one penny or one second to campaign for that nominee.

131 posted on 08/28/2011 11:24:32 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: The Bronze Titan

“Perry has no Tea Party chapter endorsements! Not even from his own Texas backyard. Hummmmm, I wonder why???”

That statement alone shows that you are clueless about the Tea Party. Need I remind you that the Tea Party is made up of individuals. There are no elected leaders. There are self appointed leaders.

132 posted on 08/28/2011 11:24:55 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: The Bronze Titan
After watching that video, listening to Perry in his own words, and seeing the way Bush behaved while in office, I am now convinced more than ever that anyone coming out of the Texas political establishment is highly compromised in their immigration philosophy based on their intimate business border relationship with Mexico.

Exactly! I also have a problem with a Governor who allows ATF in his own state to supply arms to Mexican drug cartels and rolls over yelping like kicked puppy when Zero refuses wildfire assistance to Texas and helps the Mexican fight theirs.

133 posted on 08/28/2011 11:25:02 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: The Bronze Titan

If it wasn’t on his radar screen 45 days ago, why did Gingrich’s team quit en masse and sign up with Perry 79 days ago?

134 posted on 08/28/2011 11:26:50 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Theoretical Ideal Candidate for President 2012)
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To: The Bronze Titan
upsdriver, you have just posted the best and most intelligent post on this thread (and that includes anything of mine as well)!

Thanks! I only want to see Rick Perry get the same scrutiny any other candidate(on our side) gets.

135 posted on 08/28/2011 11:28:42 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Working in the purchasing department of a corporation wasnt on my radar screen 45 days before I got my last job. Things change.

136 posted on 08/28/2011 11:29:00 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

By the way, as a side note, I heartily agree with repealing the 17th, and I would suggest taking the 16th with it on its way out the door.

137 posted on 08/28/2011 11:29:35 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Theoretical Ideal Candidate for President 2012)
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To: Paperdoll
That is to say that no one should take a Republican candidate as he or she appears, but we must thoroughly vet each candidate before we chose who will run against this sleight of hand administration. We certainly do not need a repeat performance featuring a new face!

Noooes!!! Perry supporters won't stand for that!!.....

138 posted on 08/28/2011 11:31:02 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: mel

How do you really feel :)

139 posted on 08/28/2011 11:31:06 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: The Bronze Titan
Hey, that's a kewl Perry-bashing picture! Where did you find it? Could it be that you "borrowed" it from a lefty blogger's website?

Here's what our friend "Mario Piperni" has to say about himself:

Alright, left isn’t always right but it sure as heck is right more often than not. As a transplanted Canadian living in southern Florida, U.S. politics has been one of my deep held passions for the last thirty years. In that time I’ve come to the firm conclusion that liberalism, as imperfect as it might be, can be equated with logic, compassion, justice and just plain common sense.

And you have the unmitigated gall to claim that Perry supporters aren't conservative enough for you, when you're carrying the water for the 'RATS?


140 posted on 08/28/2011 11:31:37 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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